Chiliwailer

[quote name='Marc S' timestamp='1404202352' post='2490144'] Thanks for that Chiliwailer, This bass does indeed say "American Traditional" in small typeface on the end of the headstock Also, the original scratchplate WAS indeed a one-piece The guy showed it to me He had replaced it with a more fetching 2 piece, in rather nice tort Anyone know of how well these basses were built, or the quality of components?? It seems a fair bass for the money I'm tempted to go for it, and maybe get my local luthier to re-profile the neck to more of the traditional Jazz shape.... I do like the profile of Jazz bass necks Cheers again for your help folks [/quote] I'm pretty sure these have Mexican parts - pickups/bridge/tuners etc. I checked the pictures of a Trad against a 1990 Jazz and bridge differs so that's a big clue, plus Fender like to go cheap where possible on cheaper special run USA gear. These parts aren't great, but easily changeable so if the wood is good then you're all set to go. £350 is good, but perhaps factor in new pickups to get it really going. The wood should be USA quality, given Fender's previous history of using up old parts this probably has the remainder of the pre 1989 20 fret Jazz Bass necks and bodies, the pickguards would most likely come from the 1983 Jazz Basses which although great basses, took penny pinching to a whole new level....

Hi Paul, I had two JV0 P Basses - these basses are serious in every sense of the word I've also had 2 x '83 JV P Basses - they are not even close to the JV0's. The typical Basswood body on the later JV's aren't as resonant as the Sen on the JV0, the necks are slightly different too. The Basswood JV's are light weight, both of my JV0's were 9.5lbs, too heavy for my dodgy spine so sadly they got sold. I never compared one with a Fullerton, but thought I'd chip in with some JV0 love.

[size=4][b]American Traditional Jazz Bass!![/b][/size] That was bigging the sh*t out of me The pickguard and control plate have been changed on the one in the eBay link. They should be a one piece. Fender using up old bodies and pickguards.... If yours is one, it'll say it on the end of the headstock in small writing.

Doh, I just remembered, the Jazz Bass turned into the 22 fret long horn version around 1989 to about 1995-ish, so yours could be a special model if it's a 1990 regular body shape and 20 fret neck ????

If yours is like the one on your eBay link then it is a 1990, the 1999's had a spaghetti logo. Pictures would really help mate because Fender have sometimes very briefly made cheaper USA models which are hard to spot, for instance some used cheaper parts, older parts or were made outside the usual factory. I remember the Corona series of the mid 90's so I Googled it to get you a link, turns out there is one right here on Basschat, check out the post from bleedproof [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/835-help-fender-corona-series/"]http://basschat.co.u...-corona-series/[/url] (not that I'm saying yours is a Corona, it's just an example. It could simply be that it was a B grade stock one sold cheaper, Fender do that a lot to slightly damaged or returned basses and leave it to the dealers to tell, or not tell, the punters).

Oooh, I remember selling these first time round - stunning flammed top

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1403048744' post='2479324'] I'll sell you my fretless Stingray if you like! [/quote] Uh oh, I've got serious GAS for one of those right now. I could be in trouble if you bring that one over in a couple of weeks time......

[quote name='Joeyfivebags' timestamp='1403010520' post='2478799'] Did the P serials start from 0001? I know the first 100 or so Strats had serials starting 0100 in '54. [/quote] They went; 100 - 400 in 1951 - 1952 0001 - 0999 in 1952 - 1954

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Love them. love them, love them.... So good I had to say it 3 times

You just can't beat a Tele, a true sold workhorse and killer looking guitar. Enjoy!!!

Case 1 looks like it could be the '66. It's hard to tell without proper shots of the logo. Even broken that'd help a lot. The logo on case 1 looks smaller, I could be wrong about that, but if it is smaller then 3&4 that looks like a '66 type to me. It could also be case 2 for the 66 but the clasp in the wrong place on 1 is odd and typical of hand made gear from that period which regularly has anomaly's, a batch could have been experimented on, made wrong or just cocked up by the new guy in the factory. I've had a late 60's P Bass with a logo minus the tail, so case 2 could be for that one. I've found that the cases can vary in the 60's. Perhaps either the factory guys or guitar shops just reached for the nearest case in the store room or Fender did the usual thing of using up old stock later on. I hope this helps a little, problem with old Fender is that they often made up the rules as they went along and not everything is set in stone.

As above, plus all the magnets, especially the MM ones, would most likely affect your tuning and intonation due to the magnet pull on the vibrating string. If you lower the pickups to avoid this then the tone will suffer quite a bit. That'd be one hell of a bass though if it works!

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1402602192' post='2475303'] I didn't get away with it completely. That particular bass cost me a £700 running machine! She's happy. I'm happier. We're both happy. Maybe that's the trick? [/quote] No not completely, but you did get off lightly considering you got a killer bass and paid quite a bit more than £700.... Let's hope she's after a new rowing machine soon, then you can start trawling the For Sale section again!

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1402589654' post='2475104'] My wife only bothered asking me how much that Custom Shop was that I picked up from yours the other week whilst I was on my way home....and that was without one of your magic receipts! [/quote] Haha, good on you Warren, all those lovely basses PLUS an understanding wife, cake and eat spring to mind!

When I used to manage guitar shops I offered worried customers a 'fake' reciept to show the wife (along with the proper one). The fake one would state that the guitar only cost whatever the customer asked me to state. Worked well with international customs too

Good luck to you on your personal journey, only you can make the decision where to turn and there may be one or many turns ahead of you. My thoughts are that the beauty about music is that it never leaves you and there is always a way back, be it church bands or other. If you get back to music then you broke a cycle that bothered you and you did it in your own time and on your terms (perhaps with a new outlook on it). And it you don't play again, you found peace with your struggles so made the right choice. I guess you're going to do what you have to do and then go with the flow, there's nothing that can't be replaced later if you do sell your gear. Keep the faith

Black pickguards can soften Antigua too, melancholic fusion? Example: [attachment=164578:XWJ1Xkx.jpg]

[quote name='alembic63' timestamp='1402163102' post='2470653'] ....but if you offering me a substantial wodge for the case then its yours.... [/quote] Haha, that's the spirit, see you do want to sell it really!!!! Seriously though, cheers for the offer but I've nothing that's period appropriate to put in there. Good luck with sorting the bass out.

[quote name='simon1964' timestamp='1402094009' post='2470129'] Predictable, but Paul Young, Wherever I Lay My Hat has to get a mention. Pino at his best. [/quote] I learned Everytime You Go Away today, blooming heck that took some work, i only just got back into fretless and think I'm hooked....

A new colour sounds like a great idea. Perhaps then you could sell the case on for plus or minus £100 to go towards it. Personally I always felt that an original case only belongs to an original untouched guitar, a refinished one isn't collectable anymore so why not cash in on the case to go towards the cost of the refin?

Some great suggestions coming in

Please can someone shed any light here? I have a 1980 Ibanez Musician MC924 fretless (similar to the one Sting used). I noticed that when the pre amp is switched on there is a background noise. I've read about another person having this issue so I'm wondering if it's an inherent issue with these basses or something that needs addressing? Cheers