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[quote name='MoonBassAlpha' post='880728' date='Jun 29 2010, 10:33 AM']I have replaced the foam surrounds on a couple of pairs of hifi speakers (AR18s) and it's not that hard, just a bit time consuming. These were 8" cones, and you buy the foams and stick it with something supplied that looked very much like Copydex, a latex based adhesive of some sort anyhow. I'd say the chances of a result are good, and found centring the cones fine, the cloth support behind the cone pretty much did it for you, you just have to make sure the coil doesn't rub in the magnet as you gently push it in and out.[/quote] I hear what you're saying MBA,but it's not just as simple as the surrounds simply coming away from the frame.That would be easy.The cones have actually fractured well away from the area where they attach to the frame.A different kettle of wossname altogether.

[quote name='Gareth Hughes' post='880546' date='Jun 29 2010, 12:26 AM']This might be irrelevant as I'm not too sure what goes on with speakers BUT I had a similar sound coming from one speaker in a Hartke 2.5XL cab years ago. Turned out to be the dust cover had worked it's way loose. A little bit of silicon was used to reattach it and everything worked lovely. This was done by Ernie McMillen in Comber, so if that's anywhere handy to you, PM and I'll pass on his details.[/quote] Thanx for that Gareth.I have dealt with Ernie in the past.He refretted my Takamine acoustic a few years ago.A good man and good at his job.I actually was going to try some sort of flexible repair,and MoonBA suggested Copydex.I'll mibbe have a go with that,and see what happens.It doesn't really matter if it's successful or not as I've already replaced the damaged drivers,but it'll make an interesting project to while away the dark summer days

[quote name='Bloodaxe' post='879203' date='Jun 27 2010, 08:44 PM']There's been something about this that sounded familiar, & it's been bugging me... Turns out you're not alone: [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666275&highlight=trace+elliot"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.p...ht=trace+elliot[/url] - scroll down to post 18. Any Trace buffs out there can confirm or refute? P.[/quote] I've looked at that,but I think it's referring more to the glue that they use to hold the magnet to the basket itself.Not quite the same thing,I think.Also that referred to Trace speakers.Mine are Eminence.Interesting,all the same.

[quote name='cheddatom' post='879924' date='Jun 28 2010, 02:50 PM']if two have a black line where they have broken, and the other two don't have the black line, surely that means they're slightly different models and the likelyhood is that whatever this black line is, it's a weakness? I know nothing about speakers though.[/quote] My thoughts exactly!I will however have a go at fixing them,but I doubt whether they'll ever be any use as standbys,or even in a separate cab,but hey,it'll give me something to do.No reply yet from Adam Hall,by the way.

[quote name='Mottlefeeder' post='879230' date='Jun 27 2010, 09:15 PM']From what you said, it is the lower two cones in a four by ten that have gone. David[/quote] In my first post I stated that it was the top 2 drivers,David,but that is an interesting phenomena,right enough.I'm still dubious about the black 'seam' around the separation on the damaged drivers,which the undamaged ones do NOT have.This appears to be a weakspot,caused,in my opinion by the glue or whatever the black stuff is.They are not the original drivers,which I believe would have been Celestion,but have been solid performers up till now.On further reckoning,it would have been actually 15 years ago since they were installed,so I suppose they haven't done too badly,but I'd still like to know why just two have failed.

I fired an E-mail to Adam Hall who seems to be the UK agent for Eminence,according to their website.I've also attached some pics.Watch this space........

On the night in question,I managed to get through the gig with the cones taped up with bright green insulating tape.Looked lovely,as it matched the green of the Trace Elliot rig.It stopped the flapping and buzzing for a while but I had to keep applying it.As Bloodaxe said ,the coils are OK as the drivers continued to work all night so it looks like a weakness in the cones themselves.I might give Eminence a ring and ask them what they think.

Thanx for that input guys.The cab is stored in my garage which is 'normal' temperature wise,and has been for years.As regards this 'glue' thing,the other 2 drivers dont appear to have anything like that.By that I mean that there's no visible signs of any,whereas on the damaged ones,there's a definite black shiny line where they've parted company.I can understand this happening if the glue failed,but if I was to follow Lawrence's advice,what sort of glue are we talking about here?I've actually bought 2 replacement drivers from Maplins already,but I wouldn't mind having a go at making some sort of a repair on the failed ones. ^_^ I should add that all 4 drivers were replaced at the same time all those years ago,not just the top 2.They are all Eminence.

Did a barn gig at the weekend.Ended up standing on a concrete floor all night,just me and my rig,while the rest of the band were confined to an adapted car inspection ramp which had been fitted with a makeshift stage (no room for poor wee me!)Proceeded then to blow the shoite out of 2 of the 4 drivers on my 4x10 Trace Elliot cab (Strange,why just 2 ???)Hmm.Anyway got home at 4.00 am.All in all,pretty cr4p!

[attachment=53078:Damaged_...aker_001.jpg]Hi guys.Long time no post.Long story short,I was using my Trace Elliot 4x10 cab at the weekend and I could here a rattling,flapping sound.The drive units are Eminence ME10s 100w,which have been in situ for MANY years.Heres what I found....On the TOP 2 drivers,the cones had become separated from the surrounds as in the pics (I've shown just 1 unit,the other was exactly the same).What puzzles me is this,why should just 2 drivers give up like this?The original drivers were replaced together approx 10 years ago.There seems to be some sort of a seam right around the cone at this point,reinforced with what looks like a black shiny substance.The other 2 drivers,I should add,are perfectly OK,and dont seem to have this pronounced 'seam' I would welcome any comments guys.Cheers.[attachment=53079:Damaged_...aker_004.jpg][attachment=53080:Damaged_...aker_002.jpg] Just realised,this should be in Repairs.If someone could oblige.....Thank you.

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Cheers MB.I remember seeing an adhesive sticker type thing on Ebay a couple of years back,and thats really what I'm looking for,as the cabinet is old,so it would need to be the green one.I'll keep looking,however.

Does anyone know of a UK source for a green Trace Elliot decal.I'm currently renovating my 4x10 cabinet,which is in a sorry state,so I've given the grille a couple coats of black gloss,but the badge is a disgrace.I do believe I've seen adhesive decals somewhere,but I've tried the 'Bay and other places but to no avail.Anybody??Thanx.

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