DanOwens

That's good to know. At the moment it seems to be the most low-risk option (external, 5Ghz, hidden), but it's good to know it isn't as impenetrable as I first thought.

Its true. I haven't the foggiest what I'm saying, merely regurgitating half-read forum posts. Please take my experience as valid and my technical know-how as "improvised".

You're right from a user's perspective but the phone knows no better; it's a stupid goldfish: "Can I get my email from you? No? You're locked! OK..... Can I get my email from you?..."etc. I bought an Archer router by TP Link and it had an awesome set up wizard. I could easily turn off 2.4Ghz, turn on 5Ghz, set a simple WEP password and SSID, then HIDE THE SSID. This way those pesky stupid phones can't even see the mixer to ask it for anything.

I'm not sure how loud the 'in-situ' desk is, but the XR18 is only feeding a line-level signal into whatever it is. I've only ever plugged into another desk 3 times. The first time it wasn't me that set the PA up (the rest of the band did) and they plugged it into two mic-pre equipped channels. Feedback, weird sounds that I assumed were impedance mismatches and awful phantom frequencies were the main problems, but I quickly identified that the desk had a Power Amp In so I plugged our desk in. Interestingly it was our old desk that had XLR and Jack outputs so it was easy, but the XR18 doesn't have Jack outputs, only XLRs. BigRedX's comments were congruent with my experiences and the DTI seems like a budget solution that has effectively given the XR18 jack outputs. Out of the solutions of a pair of Class D amps to build a bespoke power amp, normal cables that might result in the issues that I've described above or perhaps custom cables, the DTI seems sensible. I'm not resolving a problem that I've encountered with this set up, but given that I'm the guy who's shouldered the responsibility of getting us sounding good, having this solution (also phono outs in case we need to connect to a DJ mixer) seems like I'm pre-empting problems that I've encountered in the past.

Last time I did that things were feeding back awfully as we were feeding a line level signal into microphone preamps and maintaining unity gain was impossible. Most of the integrated desks have a 'Power Amp In' and most of the time these are XLR, but this time they're 1/4" jack. I won't have to unplug anything as the integrated desk interrupts the desk's connection when you connect to the 'Power Amp In' sockets. "the FOH EQ on the venue's desk should already be right for their speakers in that venue" I was taught by the engineers I've toured with the zero any graphics and revoice the room; I never trust someone else's voice up. I bought an Art DTI and its inbound. It'll be racked with my XR18, router and power. I'll post pics when it arrives and you can all mock my cabling!

It looks like I'm going to pull the plug on a new fretless HB Kahuna since my WTB adds have come up unsuccessfully. Which case do people recommend? There's two on the Thomann site that people are using but one seems considerably larger than the other; which cases are you guys using? Or does anyone fancy measuring up their Kahuna so I can check it myself? Case 1 or Case 2? Thanks!

I’m not sure. It’s a ‘power amp in’ on an old desk so I’m just expecting the worst.

I bought an amp from Tony. He provided excellent support throughout. I thoroughly recommend him as a seller and all round good guy

So we bought an XR18 to use with our powered sub and tops, but we regularly find venues have built in systems so we just plug in. This works most of the time as the XR18's main output is XLR, as is most power-amps input. The problem we have occurs when we find an integrated mixer/amp with jack inputs. Up to now I've just lugged our system in but we've got some touring to do, so.... Can I just use XLR-to-jack cables to plug the XR18 into the 'poweramp in' on an integrated mixer/amp? Or will there be issues around balanced/unbalanced signals? I know every time I've used an XLR to jack with a microphone it's been awful. Thanks for your input!

Yes please! How generous! How much and where to? Thanks

I found the word 'tray' was interchangable with 'shelf' and easily found a cheap alternative. Thanks anyway guys!

Hi guys! I've racked my xr18 and I want a shelf to mount my router on but they're all 25cm deep. Has anyone ever cut down a rack shelf? Or do you know where to get a shallow one?

How've you mounted the XR18 backwards?

I play with a trio and do the sound from onstage. I recently convinced the guys to invest in an XR18 and it has been a god send. The ability to properly shelve and notch EQs, the Master Graphic eq with RTA (so I can see the frequencies that are feeding back rather than rely on my non-existant sound engineering degree), the amp modelling (for harmonica solos) have all been a game changer. I bought an TP Link Archer router off ebay and followed the instructions on how to set it up for the mixer. Now its quick and clean; just considering some snakes to tidy things up even more (but for a trio it might be overkill).

And I'm considering selling mine. If anyone's interested, it might just convince me to sell.

Take my earlier statement with a pinch of salt, but actually it has helped. Having 4 bands of parametric EQ on every channel and access to gates has helped immensely and whilst I’m by no means a sound engineer, I’m better able to implement the study I did during my degree and since than with the old mixer!

Well I went and bought an XR18; more gear solves all technical problems... right?

I've always assumed panning was for the studio rather than live. Should I be panning?

I play with a trio and I'm largely responsible for the sound. We're all multi-instrumentalists so we end up using 11 channels for our setup (mandolin, 3 guitars, upright, kick drum, snare, 3 vocals and harmonica). Our desk has parametric mids for most instruments and we run a graphic. I tend to try to do a basic voice-up for every room then use the parametric mid to pull out any feedback. So we have enough gear, and I've done production modules at uni so I'm no completely naive, but I'm wondering if anyone has any resources or tips for getting an even, balanced sound. I'm wondering if I'm missing something. I'm open to all ideas! thanks

Laurence Dixon is probably the best in the UK (IMHO) but I've used an ex-apprentice of his in Manchester, Sam Wells, and was very happy. (http://www.doublebassrepair.co.uk/)