Clarky

At the risk of seeming extremely thick here, given everyone seems to accept that J's have less presence than P's in a noisy rock setting, how come countless loud rock bands have happily used J basses (Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zep, Judas Priest etc)????

Reply from Andy at Wizard: "Whatever we suggest I don't think you'll get the Precision balls, especially if you wish to retain the Jazz character as well. 84s may help but sadly we couldn't gaurantee it."

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1110918' date='Feb 1 2011, 01:07 PM']Clarky. Ive got a set of Wizard 74's lying around at home. Your welcome to borrow the for a while. Im not selling them as i plan on using them in the future but no idea when that will be. They certainly have a bit more mid punch than any other Jazz pups ive had, and i too got them to get a bit closer to the P "presence in the mix" tone. After speaking with Andy he recommended the 84's but i felt they lost a bit too much sparkle and did sound a bit dark. . The 74's seem to keep the punch and low mids but brought a bit more sparkle back. Im not sure they really made it to P level (how could they) but it certainly got the bass a bit more up front in the mix with more kick and thicker lower mids. PM if you want them.[/quote] Thats very kind Dave. I am tempted, though, to get something a bit beefier (like 84s or DiMarzio Model J) which reminds me I need to drop a message to Andy at Wizard

Thats a good price for an immaculate condition special run bass with the case and case candy, in my view, especially bearing in mind a new American Standard will set you the back best part of a grand these days and an American Vintage is more like £1600

[quote name='Sibob' post='1110422' date='Jan 31 2011, 11:39 PM']Omnomnomnomnom Is it a custom shop?....Seemingly a '62 vintage/reissue, but its got a 70's logo and 3 bolt neck? Colour me confused Si[/quote] I think Luke is right, its a 75 RI in a special run

[url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Fender_Jazz_60s_Reissue.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_sp...0s_Reissue.html[/url] Not a 62 reissue though ...

Good score Nigel. White pearl would be OTT for my tastes, would prefer an aged ivory/cream scratchplate but its not my bass! Enjoy mate

I have done so frequently and my feedback thread tells a tale! I think you can be reasonably sure of better quality basses (for example, Sercet, I am sure I would love your Wals without even having picked them up!) but some Fenders I have owned have been very variable, including some allegedly 'higher-quality' US made ones (not the CS ones, incidentally, which have all been fab).

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1110027' date='Jan 31 2011, 08:23 PM']Maybe it's because they won't make it sound like a P. [/quote] Fair do's! I thought they were Wizard's equivalent of Hot Stacks, Quarter Pounders etc ... which there are some votes for here!

[quote name='JTUK' post='1109995' date='Jan 31 2011, 08:07 PM']This.... so you will have to accept that a close cigar is as good as you can expect. I'd talk to Armstrong or Wizard.[/quote] While researching this I found an old post from BC's gafbass who said that Wizard were planning a Jazz pickup called 'the gaffer' which was to offer P-like thump .. but that was last Feb (I think) and no sign of it. I am surprised that noone has suggested Wizard Hammers here, given there is usually a lot of Wizard-love on this forum (not literally of course, apart from 51m0n )

Its a good question and one I struggle with as I have a very poor memory for a song from one or two plays. I found the Tascam Bass Trainer really good for learning, when the songs were already recorded as demos (as was the case in my punk and - prior to that - metal bands). Otherwise perhaps try recording a practice and playing bass along to a playback? I also have to write out the riffs and the structure (A, B, A, C, A, B etc) on a bit of paper for them to sink in. It does click after repetition though I have always found.

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1109755' date='Jan 31 2011, 05:39 PM']I'm just off to start a new [i][b][color="#0000FF"]People Who Haven't Bought A Sue Ryder Precision[/color][/b][/i] forum ...[/quote] and I'll be watching the For Sale forum

Lindy fralins £274 a set Yowza [url="http://guitar-xperience.com/onlinestore/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=898&category_id=265&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=38"]http://guitar-xperience.com/onlinestore/in...t&Itemid=38[/url]

There is a major issue here that perhaps I should have mentioned earlier, Chris. Mrs Clarky She likes my seafoam green Bacchus Jazz more than any bass I have ever owned (and there's been loads!) because of the colour. She has even given it a name which I will not use ("Minty"). I am banned from selling it ever and thus I want to get the most out of it!

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1109464' date='Jan 31 2011, 02:13 PM']Not the Alleva ... tell me this isn't for the Alleva![/quote] The Bacchus! Certainly not the Alleva (which is active and passive)

I posted a thread about using a Sansamp to make my Jazz sound more like a Precision - or more precisely to have the capabilities of sounding like a Precision [i]as well as[/i] a Jazz [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=120757&hl="]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=120757&hl=[/url] One reply suggested swapping out the pickups for Dimarzio Model J's which got me thinking. Which passive (I don't want active) pickup gives a Jazz the most Precision-like authority in a (rock band) live setting, based on your experience, while still being able to sound like a Jazz if needed? Dimarzio Model J or Ultrajazz, Wizard Hammer, S-D Quarter Pounder or otehr (Nordstarnd, Kent Armstrong etc)? And why not have a poll since we all love a good poll? Please don't suggest buying a Precision bass or putting a Precision pick-up in my Jazz! Only interested in Jazz pickup choices

Think I recognise that from this rather ignominious FS thread on BassChat! [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=113497&hl=Celinder"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...amp;hl=Celinder[/url]

[quote name='Lozz196' post='1107645' date='Jan 29 2011, 09:31 PM']Hi Clarky, many moons ago I had a Squier Jazz, and using the BDDI was able to get a nice warm valvey Precision type sound. I think, if memory is correct, I just kept all the settings in the middle, apart from the blend which was on full. And it was through a Trace Elliot amp, so two very clear sounding pieces of musical equipment nicely "Precisioned" by Sansamp.[/quote] Thanks Lozz, will give it a try!

[quote name='Wil' post='1107584' date='Jan 29 2011, 08:19 PM']If it's the RBI with mid control, I'd say boosting your bass and mids, rolling back the treble a touch, and maybe setting the presence around 2/3 o'clock would be a good start settings wise.[/quote] Thanks but I have the bog standard Sansamp DDDI without the mid - will have a try of those settings minus the mid

I spotted this and immediately thought of Spoombung but I suspect even he would consider that a curve too far!