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[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1339524174' post='1689940'] New thread - top ten bassists you missed from other people's lists... [/quote] Hmmm..... Michael Anthony Jeff Ament Nikki Sixx Sid Vicious Gene Simmons Pete Wentz Mike Dirnt Robert Trujillo Paul Gray Krist Novaselic

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1339503026' post='1689346'] Moi? I didn't say that. My point was that reaching for an effects pedal isn't the answer if there are things you can do first with your bass and amp that gets the job done. I don't use pedals and last Monday was asked to turn down as I was vibrating the glasses off the shelves. Just my experience. Maybe I’ve read this wrong, but I think the guitarist is barking up the wrong tree. The OP probably sounds just fine and the guitarist is worrying about feeling exposed when he looses his "safety blanket". [/quote] Sorry Chris, it wasn't really directed at anyone. What you & others have said is a very valid way of working if you don't want to use effects, but I find (depending on the song of course) that adding some drive or having the octave set with a little sub added to the clean can boost the overall sound just enough without being noticeable to the listener.

I recently ripped the active electronics out my bass & wired it up passive (new pots etc) & it puts out the same level of signal.

I don't get why blues rock means you can't use any fx? I used to play blues rock & used fx.

Get a multi fx & find out what you're gonna use. For thickening, you could add chorus, octaver (wet & dry signal) or another gain effect or all of those.

You mean like one of these?... http://www.pittjug.org/catalog/multimedia_speakers/2/pc_cassette_drive_61.html I don't think they make em anymore.

Here you go. http://www.sheponbass.co.uk/ Click on "Blog" & browse away.

Shep's blog has just about everything you need to know about effects. I'll get the link in a bit. YouTube is also your friend.

For the sounds that you're after, it would be worth looking at the Roland VB system (the old one). Usually @ £300 or so. You can even play your Juno from it. If you're looking for the more DnB, Dubstep, Electronica type sounds, then you're looking at Octave>Fuzz>Filter & some other pedals to tailor your sound more (can end up costing a small fortune).

[quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1339445480' post='1688708'] Er, all of em! [/quote] Good answer! If there's an input gain knob then it might not have the 2 inputs. Which means you just set the level to suit your bass.

I agree, the mods do a great job on here.

Are the PA cabs farting or struggling at all? If not, then they'll be fine.

Go & try loads & take someone with you to get an audience opinion for how it sounds. I went all round Glasgow a few years back to get an electro-acoustic. I tried Takamine, Yamaha, Ibanez, Ovation, Fender & a good few others in the @ £500 mark & none made me smile. Went to a wee shop in Falkirk, tried a Freshman & bought it there & then. Fantastic instrument.

I've gigged with a 30 watt 1x12 & it's been fine (although pushed). However, that was NOT in a pub, but in a town hall & no PA support to @ 100 people. The Peavey TNT or Ashdown MAG gear would most likely be an excellent starting point. As for how loud a thing goes, it's down to a lot of factors & wattage only being a tiny factor.

I wouldn't have thought the words "Ashdown" and "Top end" would be associated with one another.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1339363636' post='1687586'] Now I've done some thinking, and sadly I have a hard time really understanding where you're coming from. Already being a guitarist and being able to play some rather demanding stuff, whilst being fairly lost at making bass parts (if I understood you correctly) to me seems like a possible case of demanding too much of yourself and of the formal correctness of your bass parts. But I'll give it a go, at the risk of condescendence, and of hitting If I'm correct though, I think a theoretical approach is counterproductive here. In that case, I think you rather need experience in hearing that things can work without a load of formal demands being answered. As to a pedagogical approach in this, here's what I propose: As others have said, start with listening to songs in the same style and how bass parts are done. When playing yourself, go through a quick process if needed (as per your question): - Use root tones to begin with. - Make rhythmic patterns with the root, and then also with its octave. - Exchange tones for other tones, trying to avoid the fifth (a fifth is no statement - a sixth is) - Soon you should have nice snippets that you can just use as they are. - Echo small elements from other parts: a rhytmic element, some intervals (also diminish or augment them - play with this), a melody snippet, etc. - You have ears. So if it sounds good, it is good, at least for the time being. Just tell me if I have been an idiot. I'm very open to the idea that I hit the wrong ball in the wrong court, and sent it the wrong way to boot. [/quote] I think you've done a brilliant job of getting all the vital bits of what everyone has said & making them logical. Now you know what to do, have fun. That's the important bit!

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1339359195' post='1687462'] Well I'm always on the lookout for juicy, low-end synth sounds! If you ever want to collaborate or lend some noises to my own creations then get in touch anytime. [/quote] I might just do that some time.

Blast from the past! Where's TIM these days?

Here's somewhere with things to build... [url="http://experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/index.php?dir=Schematics"]http://experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/index.php?dir=Schematics[/url]

If you can solder, it's fairly simple to make an A/B line selector (of the simple variety).

[quote name='jaydentaku' timestamp='1339183182' post='1685148'] LOUD NOISES! Hell's Bells, its loud! [/quote] I take it you're a little surprised at how loud a decent combo can go?

It comes with practice. If you're adding basslines to written songs (where the chords & vocals are all in place), then listen to the song several times without playing any bass or even thinking of a bassline, then you'll start to hear a pattern from the music & the vocals that you can adapt on (usually the notes aren't there yet, if you know what I mean). You'll hear where can be synchronised & where parts could be changed for all the band & so forth. A lot of the stuff I do works with the vocal line, either harmonising a melody or just reinforcing what is sung. The more you write stuff the better you get at it, just like playing bass.

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1339139139' post='1684124'] yes yes but they are also a total mindf*ck as a bass player standing next to a drumkit thats making no acoustic noise and youre hearing the drums only via the PA and dont get me started on the rubber cymbals!!! sound nice yes but me no likey [/quote] Very true, but Rubber cymbals do have one major advantage... They won't make you deaf!

How about a diatonic Harmonizer that has a silicon fuzz? I think a splitter/summer that has multiple outs/ins with a filter on each out. So for example, if it had 3 outs, you could have the 1st out so it just sends lows (stuff below 150hz), the 2nd sending at @ 3-400hz & the 3rd sending the higher stuff (all filters adjustable with just one or two dials) so you can put different effects on each & then sum them back together within the said pedal. Each "in" with a level control to balance them up & maybe the ability to invert the phase on each one too. It's the only thing I can think of that hasn't been made yet.

Do some folk just not know when they actually can't sing? & does anyone else in the band think she can sing!