Sean

Nice live video of Poundcake by Satch, Sammy. Mike and Jason attached to that article. Peavey seemed a bit ingenuous with the break up terms of their contract with Eddie. They had a deal with Michael Anthony and he had a signature amp at one time that was a more or less standard Peavey head with some chili pepper stickers on it.

The Peavey family seemed so remote and out of touch, not just with the workers but with industrial processes and technology. Yes, they gave some cash to 3 people but all that is lost in accounting as business expenses. Seeing all that electronics being tested was cringe, the checking of how square that combo case was a measuring tape, ufff. I've quality audited a few German electronics manufacturers (even as far back as 2008) where their QA is so sorted and process-driven that they don't even need to test finished product. It was like the 1970s at Peavey. Peavey is using Innovation Amplified as a strapline. Just a quick look at the website tells me that that is so far from the reality. Their premium products are the HP2 guitar which is a rebrand of the Wolfgang guitar from the 90s, which in turn is a rehash of the Musicman original, and the 6505 head, which is a rebrand of the 5150 that ceased to be in 2004! Tehy seem to be very focussed on 120w guitar heads at a time when players are scrapping off their big valve amps. They have TE, so what! They show capos and phone tripods on their home page, I can get those cheaper at Heston services. There is nothing on that Peavey website that gives me even the slightest bit of GAS. Sad but true.

I watched it yesterday. Grim.

I will say one positive thing that Schecter has got right, they've got the truss rod adjustment wheel. They just need to sort out a few more "reasons to buy".

This Michael Anthony model is a passive, bolt-on, Korean-built PJ with in-house pickups and hardware. It's yours for £1905 and you'll need to spend extra on a case. https://richtonemusic.co.uk/Schecter-Michael-Anthony-Bass-Carbon-Grey/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAlPu9BhAjEiwA5NDSA84KUrSeNtHWoaXxGfyvEiyyLHDtTbZStS174by2dDP2w2e5L69_ShoC5PgQAvD_BwE You'd have to be the president of the Michael Anthony fan club to even entertain the thought of buying that. Even if you were in a Van Halen tribute you'd be buying a Yamaha BB or a Stingray. And if you were after a quality PJ there are so many better options. I really don't get this one.

Top pic is the SRMS, bottom is a BBP35 (Spec Is 18mm)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/286283976640?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SslWKgHaRUK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=6MnoMIQiQQC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY There's one to put on the list. For me it falls into the category where I would have to play it and feel comfortable with it before buying. Whereas something like an Ibanez SR, Fender Jazz, Yamaha, Spector would be much more of a bass that I'd buy from just photos. Too many unknowns for me including resale.

This is the same as the one I had. It's so long ago I can't remember much about it other than it being beautifully made. https://reverb.com/ca/item/3838585-peavey-vintage-1987-dyna-bass-unity-series-neck-thru-active-passive-usa-made-80s

Joe bought pickups from me. Cracking chap to deal with. Thanks for great comms.

I've never had a G&L sell quickly. I've had a cheap one on sale since Xmas. Not even a sniff. Saying that, the Schecter I had was on eBay for about 18 months before it sold. No enquiries, not even a cheeky offer and then one day someone did a BIN. I was looking at Spector Dimension basses with the Fishman system and the search engine brought up a used 5 string Schecter SLS Elite on eBay, very pretty, it's like new and they cost ~£1450 retail (no case or gigbag). It's on for £899 and offers are coming out at £800 and it's still there. It got me thinking about why they're so unloved and hence this thread I guess that by the time that sells it'll be seeing >50% depreciation on an immaculate instrument. The seller's pics and listing don't do it any favours either. Now, let's say you bought that for £700, played it for a year, looked after it and then decided to sell on. Even though it's a high spec bass with rave reviews on YT at a relatively low price, it's going to be tough to sell on. Moving back to the Spector Dimension 5 (that I've been looking at) or the Ethos 5 as a close comparison to the Schecter (neck-thru, Korea etc), from what I see they don't seem to take such a big depreciation hit and don't hang around as long.

Is he on the pay roll?

Pop a Haz Labs pre in there and with the active EMGs you'll get exactly what a Spector is supposed to sound like. I replaced a TP with one recently and it's like coming home. It's meant to be. I'll be buying another after April 6th. https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/product/lhz-03-hazlabs-preamp-clone/ You can buy them at Bass Direct. And just to clarify, I'm not a Bassdirect.co.uk fanboy. There's some stuff that BD sells that isn't available through other channels.

Off the back of this I started this thread. I'm a massive fan obviously but what about "the masses"?

From what I see Schecter design, contract manufacture and sell some really good instruments (basses). There are signature models that are very impressive and some through-neck models from that Korean factory that does that particular thing so well that Spector trusts that factory. Schecter even has a selection of 12 and 8 string basses. I've had a Schecter, it was magical. A Stiletto 8-string. I gigged it quite a bit but when that band folded I sold it to buy pet food, toothpaste and underwear. It was MIK, through-neck and as good as anything I've played, I suppose. I put Nord Big Blades in it and even Carey messaged to ask about it. Why do Schecter basses not get much love? Why do they depreciate so much? Why are they hard to sell? The Elite SLS with Fishman pickups and preampidas glowing reviews but these basses seem to go under the radar. Schecter depreciation is horrific, probably more than Yamaha. There are some amazing Schecter bargains to be had but the brand being very associated with metal seems to be plagued by low second hand pricing and very little desirability. So, why do we see so little love for this brand in both the UK and in the world of bass???

Where did we get to? Any decision yet?

T40s we're really sought after at one point but I remember playing one and it is probably to this day the heaviest "normal" 4 string bass I've ever picked up. It must've been 12-14 lb.

I had a neck-through cherry sunburst, figured maple, USA twin soapbar, preamp model at one time. It was absolutely exquisite but they were changing hands for peanuts in comparison to other USA basses, especially stuff with that level of construction.

I didn't notice. I'm so evangelical with the string tension calculator I saw it as an opportunity. IIRC there was a member years ago that used to be a master at reviving old threads. @dyess002 what led you to this old thread? Just interested.

I kinda like the Dug one but the strap button is too far back, like on the older Baron model. If they did a Stiletto 12 that was like the 8 I had, I'd get it.

It's a 3% change in scale length but it's >6% change in tension on a 130 and that makes a very perceptible difference. On a 135 the difference between a 34 and a 35 is still 6% but on the 35 it gives it more tension than a 100 E

I've recently installed this set on my 34" Yamaha BBP35. As you can see, the B it's not the floppiest string. I'll concede that the BBP35 is a premium handbuilt bass but there are Indonesia-made Yams that will give you a very very close experience for <£500 used.

The last person that posted in this format got banned on the 17th

I've got a Shuker carved neck on my #1 P bass. Long story and a little polemico but it's an absolute peach. We don't talk about it because it'll probably upset the NYC bass mafia.

Uffff. I've had a couple of fabulous 35" string basses that I've moved on because of the high tension principally on the D and G. If I'd have known about balanced tension and string tension calculators, those basses might still be here today. The NS5-XL anyway. She was a stunner, even by US Spector standards.