Doddy
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He's clearly done very well, quite deservedly-He's one of the best in the buisness. I'm just pointing out that tone does matter to people, especially those who are hiring you. Every great player has spent time on their sound at some point.
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And yet you still felt the need to reply. If you think tone doesn't matter, that's cool, but it matters to a lot of people, not just bass players. When big name players talk about losing work because of their sound, I think it's worth listening to them.
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I love that performance, and saw her on that tour. She's one of those artists who's always changing her vibe. That clip, and the whole self titled album, was a big change from her previous albums, and the one after (Masseduction) was as different again. The new album look like a change in direction again. That's what keeps her interesting, to me.
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I completely disagree with this. I think your tone is a big part of who you are as a player, and it does matter to people who are hiring you for gigs and recording. Have you heard the story about Will Lee recording the demos for Billy Cobhams 'Spectrum', but being dropped from the master session because his tone sucked at the time?
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She's been in a cool experimental phase for her last 3 or 4 albums. I loved Justin Meldal-Johnsen's tone on the Hofner. I've never really been a fan of the Hofner sound, but there has been a couple of moments lately that make me want one. This track being one of them. I'm a big fan of St Vincent anyway. She's the only modern mainstream artist that does anything for me.
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I haven't used the synth9 but if you're after that Moog-ish, analogue synth kind of sound, I really like the EHX Bass Microsynth. No presets, no programming, just move the sliders. It's easy, and it sounds good.
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All that goes without saying though. No one is booking someone who is late and can't handle the gig. But being able to replicate the sounds is the added extra that can take things up a notch.
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Maybe not, but there are a lot of bandleaders who will book you again because you can replicate the sounds. I do agree that you should have your sounds and levels pretty much sorted before the gig, although you might still need a quick tweak before soundcheck.
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What would you choose? (Hartke, Markbass, Gallien Krueger)
Doddy replied to John Wick's topic in Amps and Cabs
What kind of playing are you planning on doing with the rig? If you're just playing at home, I'd suggest something like a Fender Rumble or an Ashdown Session, because the 2 rigs you mentioned are both pretty big. If you're set on wanting one of those two rigs, I'd edge towards the Hartke, purely because I'm not crazy about Mark Bass heads, but either will be good. -
I'll generally give the sound engineer my clean sound, followed by a quick pass through some pedals. Maybe not all my pedals, but at least some drive and sub. They don't like when you kick on a Meatbox unannounced. I use in ears on nearly all my gigs but I still like an amp behind me, even if it's only a 1x12. It also gives me a chance to fiddle around with levels and sounds before soundcheck.
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I'm not arguing there. I know Jaco was heavily influenced by soul and R&B. What I meant is you'd never call Jaco a 'disco player'- he wasn't doing those kind of sessions. River People had that influence, but it's not going to get confused with The Hustle. My whole point is that bringing Jaco in to a discussion about slapping and disco is completely pointless, in the same way you wouldn't really talk about Larry Graham in a discussion about fusion (even though there may be some influence there).
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Irrelevant. Show me a jazz/fusion tune with Larry Graham? Would you call Larry a failed jazz player? Of course you wouldn't. It's a useless equivalency. Jaco didn't do the disco thing, and Larry didn't play fusion or write big band arrangements. Dude, I'm not ragging on you. I liked your initial topic, but somewhere along the line you've gone in to a strange place where you're slagging off Jaco and Janek for not playing disco.
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Probably the easiest way in to effects is to buy a relatively inexpensive multi effects like a Zoom B3 or a Line 6 M5. They are good sounding units that are perfectly giggable, and they'll let you play around and find sounds you like. Alternatively, you can buy some good inexpensive pedals these days. TC Electronic make a good range of pedals that are under £50 each. It really depends if you have specific sounds that you know you want, or if you just want to play around and experiment. If you get in to effects, it can get expensive, as you keep looking for the next cool sound. Also, have a listen to guys like Tim Lefebvre, Doug Wimbish, Janek Gwizdala, Justin Meldal Johnsen, and Juan Alderete (amongst others) to hear how they work effects in to their playing.
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What the hell are you on about dude? Calling Jaco a failed disco player, and bringing Janek in to it for no reason? Both these guys are killer players and irrelevant to your discussion. Just because their influences and styles are more from the Jazz world doesn't mean you should talk about them in a derogatory way in a thread about slap bass. As far as I'm concerned you've just invalidated your own discussion.
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Louis Johnson always said that he developed his slap technique without knowing about Larry Graham. I believe that because even though they both slap, their techniques are very different.
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Slap had clearly gone worldwide well before the late 70s disco era, because the players who played the style on those tracks were already on to it. Although, admittedly, that era may have helped to bring it to the listening public. The music world was on to it and there were players who had already started to take it further. That video probably wasn't about "let's find who invented slap". At that time, there were no instructional videos on any style of bass playing, so they got a bunch of big name players (Graham, Neil Stubenhaus, Verdine White, Chuck Rainey, Nathan East, and Abe Laboriel) to talk about their styles, and released 3 videos. Sure, Larry Graham's section features the slap technique, but so does Chuck Rainey's.
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I tried this. The guy in the upstairs flat went mental.
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I'm sorry, but I really don't understand this comment. What do you mean he "was into sharp & flat notes"? Did everyone else just play diatonic to the key of C? "Could only got the method from Miles"? Meaning what? Out of intetest Monk (who had a good career away from his brother) didn't slap the bass. He plucked with his thumb, which was Fenders original idea of how to play the bass, hence the finger bar under the strings.
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Ahhhh.... I had literally no idea what date it was
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To me, it looks more like Jagger is using more of a Blues guitar technique than legit slap technique. It's not that there wasn't a market for slap until the '80s, it's more that there wasn't really a market for any instrumental instructional videos at the time.
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I agree, but there's no way you're going to get one for anywhere near the OP's budget. If you're drawn to Spector, then you're probably best holding out for one. I know someone who picked up a Euro LX 5 for £1000, so they are about. Alternatively, you can find some killer deals on Warwick Streamers. I found my Streamer LX 5 ('98 German model) for well under half your budget.
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What's the Warwick/Jaco connection here, other than that photoshopped picture in the thumbnail?
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Of course there won't be many (if any) video lessons around earlier than that, because no one was making them. DCI and Star Licks didn't start making instructional videos until '82 and '83, and even a show like the BBCs Rockschool wasn't on until '83. Incidentally, that Larry Graham video was taken from the Star Licks Right Hand Bass Technique video which came out in '92, not 1980. Back on topic, that video of Jagger is clearly not playing slap or from '68.
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It seems like a decent filter. There's a good bass video with Pete Griffin demoing it. I don't think the lack of a clean blend is an issue. I've used an Emma Discumbobulator as my main filter for years, and that doesn't have one either.
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Flea is also in Back To The Future II and III, and The Big Lebowski.
