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[quote name='lojo' post='1085719' date='Jan 11 2011, 05:07 PM']I am only starting to learn the dots, but I can already see that the books of dots I have don't give you more than the basics and you have to listen for the fills and frills anyhow (just like tab )[/quote] You need to look at some more detailed scores where everything is written out. [quote name='lojo' post='1085719' date='Jan 11 2011, 05:07 PM']Do readers approach learning simple enough covers different to us peasants ?[/quote] Of course they do-You listen and you learn. Possibly the only difference being that if you have to learn a lot of tunes in a short period the reader can jot down the basic notes/rhythms etc. if necessary.

[quote name='Conan' post='1085478' date='Jan 11 2011, 01:38 PM']I both agree and disagree. To actively seek mediocrity is disappointing and ultimately unfulfilling. However, how will you ever be known as a "good bassist" if all you do is perform carbon-copies of other bassist's lines? Surely there is more to it than that? [/quote] There are a lot of very good musicians around who do copy parts everyday-be they in some form of tribute show or theatre production or whatever.Many of these are top players-just because they are not creating new music doesn't make them any less of a musician. As far as mediocrity is concerned,there are an awful lot of mediocre musicians and bands about that are touted as being 'genius',which causes many younger players to aim for that level and not push to be better.

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1085454' date='Jan 11 2011, 01:24 PM']Right, tonight's homework is to write an advert for a new member of The Bay City Rollers ...[/quote] "Bay City Rollers require new member. Everyone welcome."

I'll be surprised if Alembic haven't had something to say about the Spider model.

Brilliant

[quote name='Rich' post='1085417' date='Jan 11 2011, 12:55 PM']New bass notwithstanding... am I the only bugger in the world who has never 'got' Les Claypool, has never understood all the fuss about his playing, and has really [i]really[/i] disliked all the Primus stuff I've ever heard? Years ago I bought Sailing The Seas Of Cheese, to see what all the hoo-ha was about. Played it twice. Hated it. Left it to gather dust for 18 months. Played it again. Hated it more. Sold it. Is it just me?[/quote] I know a lot of people who don't like Primus. But for me,they were one of only a handful of bands who blew me away the moment I heard them.

[quote name='bass_ennyday' post='1085067' date='Jan 11 2011, 12:31 AM']is that really a Warwick Nobby Meidel bass on that pic as questioned in the thread topic? Any confirm?[/quote] No it's not. As SJA pointed out, it's a Kramer Duke

The neck looks to me like an Ibanez Soundgear and the bridge looks like a Traban(or a copy). To me,the body doesn't look like an Ibanez and it's certainly not a Traban. It looks similar to a Yamaha RBX. I don't really know.

But Clapton's unplugged version of 'Layla' was a totally new arrangement. It wasn't the original version with a 'creative' new bass part. Like I said earlier,there is a big difference between a band doing a new,cohesive arrangement of a tune and a band doing a cover where one or more members are 'busking' a different part.

Have a look at Ray Browns Bass Method and Rufus Reid 'The Evolving Bassist'. They are both good books.

Is the 12th fret harmonic the same as the 12th fret fretted?

I'd be interested to see who made this,especially if it does become a production model. I don't think it looks that bad to be honest.I've certainly seen uglier basses. I'll probably get one if they are the right money.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1084540' date='Jan 10 2011, 05:50 PM']Another one for the YTS Doddy? Haha[/quote] I think so

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1084176' date='Jan 10 2011, 01:25 PM']A little and often, I say. Just get anything in bass clef and bang through it. Its familiarity with the written form that allows you to improve. Print off anything that is transcribed here (its all free) and go for it, one after the other - don't go back and rectify your mistakes as you go, just keep reading, reading, reading and not learning the pieces. At this point, accuracy is not as important as keeping going!!! It will come but it takes time and practice - no short cuts here.[/quote] I kind of disagree on the keep going part. At this stage I would say go back and fix mistakes,but again don't learn the piece. At this stage I don't think it's worth ploughing thorough,it's more about taking time and getting it right. Later on you should carry on and get to the end,but until you are at least a relatively comfortable with the dots I wouldn't plough through pieces. It doesn't matter how long it takes you to work out the notes at this stage as long as you get them right.

[quote name='El Bajo' post='1084222' date='Jan 10 2011, 02:06 PM']I watched a documentary on Nigel kennedy the other night (he seems slightly unhinged). He, and his orchestra, play with different feel and embelish some parts in some of the greatest 'covers' ever created, i.e. 4 seasons. He says whats the point in getting up everymorning to play if its the same thing day in day out. As long as its sounds ace, do it! Most bands never play it the same live anyway,[/quote] But then you're talking about doing a complete arrangement of a piece,not covering a song and making up a different bass part.

I've never done a panto or show where I've had to learn it by ear. How come there are no dots supplied?

[quote name='Delberthot' post='1083819' date='Jan 10 2011, 01:05 AM']I am not trying to be disrespectful to the players who believe that reading, studying modes and other stuff are important its just that they've never been important to me and I don;t feel that I have ever missed out. In fact, I think I am a better player for it as I don't think in terms of chord structure and other stuff like that, I just play what sounds right. Wait, that makes it sound like I think I am better than you all because I don;t know chords etc but what I am trying to say is that for me, not knowing what all of these things are have been beneficial to me.[/quote] I'm just going to pick up on this bit. How can not knowing things like chords be beneficial to you? I honestly don't think you can say if it has been or not,because you have never had the benefit of that knowledge. No one who has studied it will say that it hasn't been of some benefit to them. Ok,so you 'don't think in terms of chord structure'. Fair enough,but how are you approaching things? By playing patterns or hunting around for notes until you find the right one? I also play what sounds right,but the difference is I know what notes will work before I play them.Knowing about chords takes away a hell of a lot of guess work and allows you to play more than root notes. After all,you'd sound dodgy playing a B over a C7 chord.

That's a good book. While it's nice to read a melody,at this stage I think it's more important to actually become competent with recognising the notes. It might be me,but if you are not comfortable yet,I don't know how it can be boring.You've still got plenty to do from that book. If you want a change,find some simple transcriptions where you can apply what you learn

I've read articles on studio players where they talk about cutting the note off to allow the snare to pop through.So I get what he's saying there. As far as bass being a supplementary instrument,for him(and others) it still is.Let's be honest,in certain situations the bass is still used for plodding root notes or doubling riffs an octave lower.Then it is supplementary to the guitars and drums.

[quote name='flyfisher' post='1081704' date='Jan 8 2011, 12:36 AM']If there was a "rule book" for composing and playing music it wouldn't be as much fun would it? Still, I suppose we could make one up. How about: [i]Rule no. 1 : There are no rules. Rule no.2 : see Rule no. 1[/i] There, that should cover it. [/quote] Or better yet.... 1. There are rules 2.You should know them before you can break them.

[quote name='bubinga5' post='1081700' date='Jan 8 2011, 12:31 AM']i agree and i dont.... sitting down and listening to a bass line just takes time with the bass a CD and the internet..... being creative over that bass line within tasteful limits takes much more..IMHO[/quote] [quote name='xgsjx' post='1081931' date='Jan 8 2011, 11:25 AM']I think learning the actual bassline to songs is a good staring point. However, I don't believe a cover should be played just like the original & think it shows a lack of creativity (unless it's a tribute band).[/quote] What's all this talk about creativity? Playing a line spot on does not show that the player is lacking on creativity. Depending on the song or gig,it is more likely to show that you can't be arsed to learn the song. I'm not saying you have to be note perfect,but 'busking' a slightly different fill doesn't make you more creative.

I don't like the Hercules stands. I found the grabby bits broke easily and they were easily knocked over. I use the Ultimates at all my gigs-both the Genesis 200 and 100 models.

I used to carry mine in a Ford Ka.Back seats down,with the scroll between the front seats. There was still enough room for more gear,or someone else to sit.

Galactic-'Rukus'

[quote name='chilievans' post='1080211' date='Jan 6 2011, 06:06 PM']Bridge volume I think[/quote] I've got mine on the neck volume.