paul, the

I'm an hour ahead. Either that or I'm just moving r e a l l y s l ow l y

[quote name='GreeneKing' post='3987' date='May 21 2007, 10:52 PM']I still don't entirely agree with you train of thought my man, but I am obviously Mr Grumpy tonight too [/quote] I'm sorry, I'm usually a kitten. I just don't like the thought of a scammers. The second I sense injustice to musicians on me whiskers, the claws fly.

Or Kaye's just trying to get credit where it isn't due. I'm sure it's hard to prove either way.

[quote name='chris_b' post='4133' date='May 22 2007, 01:43 AM']No problem... scrub that comment. I still think it sounds like JJ but the question is why is Carol Kaye so adamant about this.[/quote] Sorry f I came off badly there, I was just trying to sound eccentric. p&l paul. --- [quote name='dlloyd' post='3576' date='May 21 2007, 01:58 PM']From bassland.net [/quote] The information about that is in one of the links but it's fantastic to see it in original writing. Nice find! --- [quote name='chris_b' post='3594' date='May 21 2007, 02:14 PM']Motown recorded in Detroit, they recorded in LA, they recorded demos in LA and sent the tapes back to Detroit to be rerecorded, they also sent master tapes from LA to Detroit and JJ overdubbed some bass parts (what a mess!). Carol Kaye may have recorded the original of "I Was Made To Love Her" if it started out as a demo but my guess is that it is JJ on the record. Having said that, these songs were recorded and released more than once for singles, albums, shows etc. Which one is she talking about? If it is true that Stevie Wonder says she was the original bass player then I guess that settles the argument. KO to Carol Kaye. JJ's sound is unique not because of his equipment but because he was a URB bass player who set up the Precision to approximate the very high action and feel of a URB and he only used one finger to pluck the strings, as URB players do. Also the Blues Brothers band was the Saturday Night Live house band. The record included Paul Schaeffer and Steve Jordan who didn't make it to the film.[/quote] I think this is probably the case. There is similar accounts mentioned on the Standing..Shadows of Motown film regarding Babbit. Perhaps the Ebay listing quote was cleverly picked out and that perhaps it truly means that Kaye did the bass originally and then it was redone by Jamerson. Although my head is in a bit of a puddle now. Paul. -- My that's a f'n sweet tone.

[quote name='bass_ferret' post='4029' date='May 21 2007, 11:36 PM']Where did you get that from?[/quote] The quote is from the Ebay listing. Reliable source? I think not! I'll see if I can find the same claim anywhere else. paul.

Simon's done this all wrong. A shrewd hoarder would put the old strings in the packets that the new strings came out of and say: "I'm saving loads of money with these Buy One Get One Free sets!" Although a draw full of string packets would soon provoke suspicion. Still, a lot safer and space saving than loose strings!

*drools* I love how soft it looks in the first picture.

Be a bore and withdraw the funds. I'd also like to know which shops take Paypal, useful stuff.

'Stupid' may have been a little strong, and 'Fender' was the relevant (and consistent) example. I'm just saying that; If this guy is genuine, to sell a Fender with 1 feedback isn't a clever thing to do (and, yes in my opinion, stupid). If he's after money to buy a different bass or for anything, he's not going to get it! I don't think anyone in their right mind would create an honest listing in this situation. It looks like an obvious hoax to me. Paul.

You should never buy from someone stupid enough not to get some feedback before selling a Fender. I can't think of any situation where what he's doing would have common sense. Definitely walk away.

I have an acoustic HB - it sounds pretty naff but it's a close friend now, lots of character. [quote name='EdwardHimself' post='3921' date='May 21 2007, 09:35 PM']They are very good for the money, probably even better then OLP stingrays. U should get 1.[/quote] Ooh, now there's and A/B I'd like to see!

This was in Bassworld was it not? I use a GT 12ax7-c in my TubePre. Cheaper than the Mullard reissue and has a great description. Anyone else ever tried them? --- HA3500 users - are you happy? I've always been drawn to them Paul.

"Now now Davie, if you have a kit-kat, everyone will want one. Wait until you've had your dinner."

[quote name='neepheid' post='3361' date='May 21 2007, 08:47 AM']Spur of the moment purchase off evilBay. Body and neck. Something to keep me occupied. Definitely want to do it again at some point in the future. A good place to start would be something that needs some TLC to get going. Try an eBay search for "bass project", "bass body", "bass neck" etc.[/quote] Hey, thanks man. I've been searching for a long scale mahogany bodied EB-3 copy in non-cherry (I see you have an eppy). Although I'm not certain one exists. So I might try and collect bits. I want to respray my p-special too, but that's not so much of a build. And I've done one before. I'd like to hear about from tree to bass. But a bit of TLC sounds like a good start. Paul.

[quote name='BB2000' post='3314' date='May 21 2007, 04:16 AM']It is interesting that the Dr Licks transcription and Carol Kayes differ. Listen to the original and see which is closest ... It wouldn't surprise me if neither of them played on that track. Must admit I do like Marcus Millers slap take, I'm not really into slap bass but he sounds superb.[/quote] I don't want to hear that, I've just ordered the Dr. Licks book! How do you know Carol Kaye's is different? If no one has her transcription, I might order book .4 from America and check it out. I've heard one or two complaints about the Slutsky transcription, but I'm sure it's nonsense. Although, Jamerson is renowned for adding many deadened and in-between notes (for want of a better word) for intonation and rhythmic feel. Off topic: Does anyone think they've nailed the Jamerson tone for under £10000? Or something really close (giggable) for under £1000? Paul.

Hello all, This is currently unchartered territory for me, but I hope to be a little more comfortable around here in future. I love to read through the build diaries, but am sadly too ignorant to post. But even though I haven't tried building myself, seeing other peoples' builds helps me to view my basses less as scary alien creatures that make pretty sounds and more as (in most cases) a skillfully crafted instrument made of wood, hardware and electronics. Anyway, to finally get to the point; when I feel more confident that I can be tangibly creative, I'd love to know where to start. So how did you all get into building basses? Cheers, Paul.

I've bought basses, accessories, all sorts from them Everything's always gone swimmingly.

I've read these through and probably will do again, A couple of questions, sorry if they've been covered (no doubt there'll be more on the way): Compatibility; if it has valves in it, can you play bass through it? This might get a little complex, but; other than the valves, what makes one valve amp sound different from another? --- If this is pinned, I'll add oxblood's valve description in That valve sound... (from BT) [quote name='oxblood' post='265198' date='May 14 2007, 03:51 AM']Well now, there's a short question with a long answer... The only way to really 'get' it, of course, is to experience it for yourself, and now you've posted this, I'm willing to bet that it won't be long before you get a chance. Odds are there's a BT member in your neck of the woods who has a valve rig and wouldn't mind you having a bash on it. After about 30 seconds, the whole tone thing will make perfect sense - and you'll be GASsing for something hot 'n heavy of your very own! Meanwhile, I can give you a basic idea of what the technical difference is. Among amp designers and audio boffins, the ability of an amplifier to faithfully reproduce the signal it receives at its input is known as 'linearity'. In essence, the whole 'valve tone' thing boils down to the fact that, from a purely scientific standpoint, valves are not very good at being linear! If you want clinically perfect reproduction, Solid State devices win hands down. As I'm sure you know, the classic behaviour of a Solid State device is that, as you increase the amount of signal (turn up the volume) its output remains clean until it hits the limit of its amplifying ability and starts to 'clip' - i.e. the tops and bottoms of the waveform are literally clipped off. This clipped signal is rich in odd harmonics, which sound harsh and unmusical. A heavily clipping SS amplifier is a HORRIBLE sound, and its nasty hard-edged waveform is full of high frequency crap that can actually damage tweeters. So, in order to avoid the risk of driving their SS amp into clipping, it's customary for musicians to buy an amp that has plenty of 'headroom' - i.e. it has far more available power than they're ever likely to need. That's why some bassists have a 1000 Watt SS rig, even though they might only be playing small club gigs. Valves, on the other hand, behave differently. With a small signal at the input, the amplified signal coming out of the valve will be a pretty faithful copy. As input signal level increases, though, the output signal gradually starts to bend out of shape, and this bending adds a range of predominantly even harmonics, which to human ears are percieved as sweet and musical. The effect is to very subtly enrich the note - a bit like opening up the stops on a church organ. At this stage, most listeners won't even characterise the signal as being distorted. To them it'll just have "midrange warmth" or "thickness". As we drive the valve harder, the proportion of harmonics in the signal increases, becomes even more complex, and the balance of even and odd harmonics shifts. Eventually, if we drive it all the way to its limit, the valve will clip - but even at this point, the transition of the waveform into flattened off tops and bottoms is nowhere near as hard-edged as with a Solid State device. The resulting sound is heavily distorted, but if you're a heavy metal freak, it's still a musically appealing sound. Another side effect of the harmonic enrichment is that it helps the signal 'cut through' in a live situation. The human ear literally has more information to get hold of, so takes more notice of it! Also, strictly speaking there is more energy present in the valve amp's bent-outta-shape signal. This is why a valve amp will always appear to be 'louder' than a SS amp of the same wattage. 300 Watts of clean SS signal is just not as attention-grabbing as 200 Watts of sweet, complex, harmonically enriched valve WOOF. There's a lot more to it than that, of course, but hell - it's 4am and I need me bed. Nighty night! [/quote] The reason I ask about compatibility continues from when I was asking rodl2005 about his Eminar PA head that he used for bass: From BT [quote name='rodl2005' post='257077' date='Apr 26 2007, 08:32 AM']Here's my small- er tube rig( an Eminar P.A. head from '76- 6 x KT77/6CA7's 4 x 12AX7) 180w & My EB MM Stingray 5 & Squier Special Anniversary 5 [/quote] He told me about it: "Gave a great tone for Guitar or bass but the EQ section was obviously NOT set up for bass really, so I usually stuck a pre-amp pedal type o' thang in B4 it. A while ago it was a ZOOM 506-later a V-amp & then a POD- these gave a much better EQ range for bass!" "I A/B'd it next to my Ampeg SVT3PRO a few yrs ago & there wasn't much difference-in fact the PA head had a better tube sound-just not quite as "EQ-able"" If this isn't kosher let me know? Any thoughts?

It's a beaut', classy with a bit of bling.

Oh my! What job do you do? Because I'd quite like to abduct you and parcel crate you to Guatemala while I discretely fill your position. the paul. nice basses! Just don't think about bass A that you'd sell for bass B that you'd buy - it'll drive you puddles.

basschat's pretty chill on the down-low. bassplanet's kinda sci-fi. Basstalk got it right, but Gerard got it wrong.

[quote name='dlloyd' post='2532' date='May 19 2007, 11:00 PM']There's some guidelines in Fender's setup pages. They are just guidelines and you should experiment from these specs. Optimum pickup height, like all setup details, will vary from bass to bass, player to player. Yep, I still have my first electric guitar, with its butter-knife adjusted pickup screws [/quote] Cheers! I'm just being lazy - I should have found that. Thanks again, Paul.

[quote name='mic mac moe' post='2556' date='May 19 2007, 11:44 PM'] I've been giving my pupils the benefit of Ed Friedlands Complete Bass Method published by Hal Leonard. It features loads of exercises in standard notation with no tab in sight.Incredible how they cope when you remove the safety net!!!!That and Crash Course by Stuart Clayton.Great for the beginner with gradual increase in difficulty[/quote] I've bought that and not used it yet. --- Original poster: Depending on your preference, you might want to try out a Carol Kaye book. She does music books and tutor books all in notation. Paul.

Cripes Batman! Any more piccies? I'm not normally so easily teased! Paul.