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[quote name='OldGit' post='9364' date='May 30 2007, 05:57 PM']Just read the Interparcel website and t&c's very thoroughly and spoke to a human and they all confirmed they do ship and insure basses ... [url="http://www.interparcel.com"]http://www.interparcel.com[/url] We will see ....[/quote] They don't insure beyond £1000 - which is understandable, but annoying.

[quote name='spike' post='9443' date='May 30 2007, 08:31 PM']This does it for me! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_BnJM_apS8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_BnJM_apS8[/url][/quote] ooo she fine

CK's list is great. Plenty of material there to keep anyone interested. As far as new, up and coming group bassists with a solid, creative, interesting finegrstyle technique... I'm at a loss. Perhaps Nizlopi, Bedouin Soundclash (would love to hear others). I think it's more to do with fashion than talent. You might be better off looking towards hip-hop, modern soul and RnB for some creative, grooving basslines. To add to CK's list: Chuck Rainey, Jerry Jemmott, Duck Dunn, Tommy Cogbill, David Hood, Willie Weeks, Ronnie Baker, George Porter Jr., and Bootsy Collins. As well as the bassists I mentioned on your blues & rock thread.

This was the thread I was after from BT. Ta very much.

Isn't it like a tinted window?

I recently realised I knew nothing about my bass, so I thought I would do some research. I think my bass would be a contender if anyone knew they existed. --- It's a 1997 Californian Series Precision special. The model was only made for two years between 1996 and 1998 and features passive vintage p/j pickups and a jazz neck. So it has a vintage (RI) tone, with a little extra versatility and ease of playability. And it receives healthy reviews on harmony-central [url="http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Electric+Bass/product/Fender/California+Precision+Bass+Special/10/1"]http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews...ss+Special/10/1[/url] This one isn't mine, but I hope to spray it this colour or dark brown. Would putting covers on detract from its value? Does anyone know where you can get those spots/inserts shown on the first picture to cover the drill holes for the bridge cover? Cheers, Paul.

[quote name='NickThomas' post='7483' date='May 27 2007, 08:38 AM']Leo's final and arguably best creation .. G&L basses [/quote] Completely overlooked G&L - I can't say I'm a big fan of their appearance, but they sound great.

Bump -I too would think about taking a plunge into valvedom.

It seems very well thought out. I expect they'll make a lot of money out of it. Is there one for guitar?

[quote name='Brandonh' post='7470' date='May 27 2007, 04:17 AM']No lol I mean the band im in we play stuff like that. I like jazz, If thats what you mean? I like jaco jamerson graham bands like miles davis john coltrane weather report.[/quote] Oh right, then you're in good company. Just don't let your band on to the fact that you have superior music taste

Ah! the Laklands do! As previously mentioned by bass ferret, which I foolishly overlooked. They're Fender rips so they're not ideal for the thread. But they're modern, with a vintage tone. I may open a new thread for this after some more research, but does anyone know: The weight and used prices for; Joe Osborn Skylines and Bob Glaub US ?? Cheers, Paul.

I knew that wouldn't go down well, I've tried it before. [quote name='chris_b' post='7104' date='May 26 2007, 12:49 PM']Several years ago Bass Player magazine compared the pickups on a highly rated early 60's Jazz Bass which had spent it's whole life in a Nashville studio, pumping out hits, with Lindy Fralin JJ vintage replacemants. The Fralins won! If I was going vintage I would start by checking these out.[/quote] Wow, now that's interesting, were they aiming for a vintage tone? do you know if any basses stock them as standard? I'll look into those.

Wow, some really great and informative posts. I wasn't on planning on changing any of my equipment, I just wanted to throw around some ideas for myself and others to learn from. But this thread has been quite successful so I might consider a mix around. To be very upfront and non-conservative; I've been very lucky with some of my previous purchases and I have made about £550 net profit from two previous bassy purchases. I think all my gear is worth around £1400, probably a bit less. But I have no reference as to how much my '70s Kustom Charger would fetch, or if I'd be willing to part with it - I've never seen another in England and the speaker's slightly buggered. I did see a 50th anniversary '60s RI jazz in vintage white and tortoiseshell that I slightly regret not buying on Ebay. But if I'm serious about having a mix around for tonal benefit then it would; A, have to sound brilliant and B, have some investment potential (obviously hard to judge, please don't slay me on this) [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=770&hl="]Vintage basses of tomorrow thread[/url] I'm also not gigging, so that could be taken advantage of - I'd love an irresistible, dream tone to entice me to practice hard. Cheers guys, paul.

[quote name='Brandonh' post='6980' date='May 26 2007, 04:08 AM']U.s.a[/quote] I wish our NA was as catchy. Relax and listen to some Zeppelin.

Wow, some fantastic stuff on there. Time well spent looking through those, thanks a bunch.

[quote name='Brandonh' post='6977' date='May 26 2007, 03:39 AM']I mean any rock or blues thanks. Im not even from the Uk you guys are just all good people.[/quote] Oh right, sorry. Just my prejudices showing. Should have known by the time Where are you from, if you don't me asking? --- If you like Geddy Lee (Rush?) and Steve Harris, then you'll probably prefer straight rock/classic Heavy-metal to blues-rock. Although I hope you change and evolve Stuff like: AC/DC Black Sabbath (great riffs!) - Geezer Butler Deep Purple Judas Priest Motorhead Queen Thin Lizzy Although this isn't really my comfort zone. VH1's 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock: [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VH1%27s_100_Greatest_Artists_of_Hard_Rock"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VH1%27s_100_G...ts_of_Hard_Rock[/url]

Do you mean British blues-rock? Or separately? blues-rock [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues-rock"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues-rock[/url] I recommend: * Cream/Eric Clapton * Fleetwood Mac (early - Peter Green) * Scott Henderson * Jimi Hendrix * Jethro Tull * Led Zeppelin * John Mayall * Ten Years After * The Rolling Stones * Carlos Santana * Stevie Ray Vaughan * Johnny Winter * The Animals Loads of great American stuff as well which isn't springing to mind. *Canned Heat. Watch the Woodstock DVD. Everyone should passionately love a least a few of those bands at some stage in their life, unless they go straight into jazz. Electric Bassists: Duck Dunn, John Paul Jones, Jack Bruce, Chas Chandler, Noel Redding .. and many more.. and upright players. paul.

[quote name='NAS' post='6734' date='May 25 2007, 07:11 PM']I'm not a great expert on vintage tones having never owned an original period Fender with all original parts (had a P Bass circa '68 with non Fender replacement neck), but I think the Status vintage range, of which I have this exemplar: make some good quasi vintage tones. Lots of pickup combinations available. These ones are passive humbucking so probably a bit "tame" by vintage standards, but the tone is more lively and less middy than lots of modern basses. Nick S[/quote] Very nice! I have a p/j bass, it makes me happier by the day. I know nothing of Status, did it cost a small fortune? paul.

[quote name='paul, the' post='6790' date='May 25 2007, 08:26 PM']According to these definitions... 9. representing the high quality of a past time: vintage cars; vintage movies. 11. being the best of its kind: They praised the play as vintage O'Neill. 2. Characterized by excellence, maturity, and enduring appeal; classic. --- What of today's mass produced basses (if any) would be considered the vintage basses of the future? --- paul.[/quote] I'm serious about this, anyone on BC think they're pretty shrewed?

Elite Groundwound Bass? They may well be my next purchase. Thanks for that!

[quote name='Timface' post='6854' date='May 25 2007, 10:12 PM']intresting.... Does this explain party why really old basses are worth loads of cash? apart from them being orinigals or "special" coz that kinda different[/quote] Demand is positively correlated with scarcity of resources. Pre-CBS fenders are renowned for their superior production and quality of build (and thus, sounding better). Over time, with people hanging on to these basses and not parting with them for limbs as well as breakages and parts having to be replaced - an all original vintage Fender is becoming more and more of a rarity and thus, going up and up in market value. Post-CBS basses made in the seventies also have a certain kind of individualism and are owed a lot by their era and emotionally charged place in prolific '70s music history. These, too, are a good £1500 investment if you like the tone and can't afford the six grand price tag on a '60s instrument. So why don't Fender still make to quality instruments(?) I hear you ask - Well I'm not sure. I am, however, sure it's not simply just down to bad principles. The simplest fact is that Fender have a longer established reputation than anyone for electric instruments. They are renowned for being studio ready and highly endorsed. This amalgamation of product history and endorsement equals the Fender brand. Having the esteemed Fender brand name on their instruments means that they have the kind of market elasticity available to them that they can sell basses made all over the world with satisfactory qualit control and still have a consistent high demand. I personally think that this is good short-term business sense and it would not be economical for fender to increase quality control. However, in the long-term, Fender will lose respect and brand loyalty unless they come up with some decent extension strategies or quickly change their ethos. One thing, that is quite specialised to music, is the fact that they can stick on a Hendrix, Floyd, Jamerson track and say "That was played on a Fender." You can't really take that away from them. Still, there's nothing like holding an American made Fender. You instantly become a part of music history... you feel it in your bones.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but my perfect strings would have the feel and flexibility of rounds with the warmth and soft tone of flats. ...I need more basses.

[quote name='Timface' post='6786' date='May 25 2007, 08:18 PM']IS this true, as basses age do they sound/play better? or is it down to preference I've only had my ric for a year and the first 2 months I wasnt sure at all... but now It plays amazingly, But I recon that down to settling to it Timface[/quote] It's all about the mystical deities that worked in the Fender factory in the '50s, 60s and '70s. (another vintage thread here: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=748&hl=)"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=748&hl=)[/url] You've probably become accustomed to its unique tone. You've probably worn in the strings a little to your preference. You've probably set the tone knobs just right. You've probably got used to the fact that the bass is yours. You own it, you!.. Give it a hug.

According to those definitions, most of the pre-'80s instruments on Ebay are described wrong. -- An interesting thread: according to these definitions 9. representing the high quality of a past time: vintage cars; vintage movies. 11. being the best of its kind: They praised the play as vintage O'Neill. 2. Characterized by excellence, maturity, and enduring appeal; classic. What of today's mass produced basses (if any) would be considered the vintage basses of the future? --- paul.

[quote name='BigRedX' post='6785' date='May 25 2007, 08:14 PM']Well that's what I has asking. How old does an instrument have to be to be considered vintage? Back when I bought my first bass in 1980 any pre-CBS Fender bass would have been considered vintage. That would have included instruments under 20 years old. See what I mean?[/quote] I would have thought it would be subjective for an emotionally charged period of items. Here's what Dictionary.com has to say about it (outside of wine making): vin·tage /ˈvɪntɪdʒ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[vin-tij] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, adjective, verb, -taged, -tag·ing. 9. representing the high quality of a past time: vintage cars; vintage movies. 11. being the best of its kind: They praised the play as vintage O'Neill. adj. 1. Of or relating to a vintage. 2. Characterized by excellence, maturity, and enduring appeal; classic. 3. Old or outmoded. 4. 1. Of the best: played songs that were vintage Cole Porter. 2. Of the most distinctive: "Fatalism has coexisted with vintage American overconfidence" (Thomas Oliphant).