Linus27

[quote name='gerryc' post='1344579' date='Aug 18 2011, 04:50 PM']Don't I know it , you beat me to it by a couple of minutes. Just about to bag it and the bloody phone rang, by the time I'd got rid of the twat you'd got it. That emoticon is supposed to be here, today I will mostly be a F@*kwit.[/quote] HAHAHAHA sorry. Just to make it worse, I even waiting about an hour, had lunch, pondered over the idea and then decided to buy it A minute longer to ponder and you would had bagged it

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1344510' date='Aug 18 2011, 03:29 PM']Welcome to the club. I had a few strips of platfoam before getting mine but threw them away.[/quote] Oh gggrrrrr

[quote name='MartyBRebelMC' post='1344555' date='Aug 18 2011, 04:22 PM']I think the 12" driver NY121 is the same but the tweeter will be different to the one in the 121H combo[/quote] Ok thanks. The tweeter can't be adjusted in the 121H combo. Can it be adjusted in the NY121?

[quote name='51m0n' post='1344323' date='Aug 18 2011, 01:17 PM']Yes, and I think it would add to the effect as it goes, more foam = even less vibration based coupling. Should be a very cheap way to get your tilt on and improve on the already excellent GP.[/quote] Thanks Simon. I have now bought a Gramma pad

Do you think that a Gramma Pad plus an extra strip of Platfoam under the front to add as a tilt would work? I only use a MarkBass combo and have been looking at a tilt. I like the idea of this Gramma pad but it does not raise the combo up much. Adding another strip of Platfoam under the front to tilt it would be ideal but would it take away some of the effect the gramma pad does?

Another rehearsal tonight and will start off fully with no VPF filter and the last settings I posted above. I may also then try Pete's settings and go large with the bass on full on the Stingray. Either way I will record the sessions and may post some sound clips up to see what you think.

Yes and yes. The fretless is an ESP 400 series Jazz which I use all the time including gigs. I also have a Warwick and Stringray fretless. I also have a Washburn AB10 acoustic bass which I use at home but have not ventured out to a gig yet. I play in an acoustic band so it would work perfect but the G string is too quiet and a lot of my bass lines would loose out if the G string could not be heard. I do plan on getting this sorted, either by taking it to a luthier or trying a heavier guage string.

Great news Dave. When we last spoke I was a little worried that your gigging days were over so this is fab news. All the best with your new band and with you.

I sorry to say this also but ....... Its the wrong way round

[quote name='51m0n' post='1343000' date='Aug 17 2011, 12:34 PM']Ouch![/quote] HEHEHE only joking but yes, we must do some more racing. Maybe pick a car tuned to a certain BHP. Get a few of us on here maybe.

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1342948' date='Aug 17 2011, 11:52 AM']I believe its exactly the same as the Traveler cabinet. The NY121 may be the same, but the recent 2x12s are different. Are you looking for an extension cabinet?[/quote] Thanks Gareth. I am looking at a rig for bigger gigs. The combo is great for most of the work I do but there may be a possibility that I may need to do some bigger gigs. I cuurently have a Shuttle 9 and two GS112 cabs. As I love the MarkBass gear I am going to get a a LMIII and I would quite like the same speakers (not 100% sure yet) that are in my combo. At least find out as a starting point. So maybe a LMIII and two Traveller 112 cabs.

Does anyone know what speaker is in a MarkBass CMD121H combo and if it is the same as either the New York, Traveller or Club 12" cab speaker?

[quote name='51m0n' post='1342901' date='Aug 17 2011, 11:13 AM']Need to find an evening for another race mate, this time I'll remember to put some soft tyres on my car (excuses excuses!)[/quote] Yes we must. I will take a slower car this time so you can keep up. Maybe a 1.2 Fiesta or Polo

[quote name='51m0n' post='1342753' date='Aug 17 2011, 09:28 AM']I'd like to thank Linus for trying all of these ideas and coming back to us with his findings. For him it turns out more mids than he thought were right for the mix, in that space, on that day, playing those songs. He now has a ballpark from which to tweak at different venues.[/quote] No worries, I think its been a great discussion and not only has it helped me, hopefully it will help others when searching. For me, learning about how the 2EQ preamp works was really helpful. As was how the low mids and VPF filters change the dynamics. All good. I can now get back to doing what I do best, going fast in Gran Turismo 5

[quote name='nottswarwick' post='1342715' date='Aug 17 2011, 08:47 AM']It's more than just curves. They interact with each other it seems. Whatever, it works. Whilst you are of course correct about flat and mids being our friend from a live point of view, I do find that the ray needs a slight boost of the bass knob to give the lows some body and feel. Each yo their own[/quote] Another thing thats worth taking into account is something Alex from Barefaced has mentioned. Its all very well having all these frequencies but if you have a bass cab that can't reproduce certain frequencies then you are always going to struggle. I think he said something along the lines that the Stingray goes down very low in the bass frequencies and also very prominent in the mids but if your bass cab can't reproduce these frequencies then you are going to struggle to get the best out of the bass. Seemed to make sense to me.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1342572' date='Aug 16 2011, 11:33 PM']Everyone was wrong then? It alters depending on what the other knobs are doing is that right? Im more confused now [/quote] I think everyone should just get a 2EQ and be done with it. They sound better anyway and why have 4 knobs on a bass when you can have 3

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1342550' date='Aug 16 2011, 11:10 PM']Everyone on here has always said the bass is boost only on all versions?[/quote] Mmm interesting, I don't know exactly for sure but I thought the 3EQ was cut and boost on bass, mid and treble. I am probably wrong and if so then thats something new I have learnt

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1342537' date='Aug 16 2011, 11:00 PM']Which actually means on a 3 EQ the detent is not flat its half boost.[/quote] Is that actually right? I thought the detent at 12 o'clock was flat.

[quote name='nottswarwick' post='1342529' date='Aug 16 2011, 10:54 PM']Out of interest how does the 2eq work? I know there are no centre detents unlike the 3 EQ so what is flat?[/quote] As Pete says, I think the general feeling is that with the bass turned all the way off, this is flat and adding just boosts it. The treble is cut and boost although nobody really knows where flat is so I am going with the middle is roughly flat and using my ears.

Well rehearsal was very interesting. Played through the set with the settings posted above and it sounded alright. A little dark but generally good. We then played through the set again and this time I turned the VPF off and wow. The bass jumped out and had a lot more growl and attack. Still a little dark so I added about 10% more treble on the Ray and it just sounded so sweet. So this was my settings which I will try at the gig on Saturday. MB Combo Bass: 12 o' Clock (FLAT) Mid Low: 10 o' Clock Mid High: 12 o' Clock (FLAT) Treble: 12 o' Clock (FLAT) VLE Filter: OFF VPF Filter: OFF Stingray Volume: Full Treble: 60% Bass: 20% So after all that, apart from dialing the low mids off a bit, the MB combo works best flat and then set the treble and bass on the Ray to suit. Its been really helpful finding out how the 2EQ Preamp works. Thanks again for all the advice. Has been a real success for me to finally get the Stingray working and sounding great.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1342262' date='Aug 16 2011, 06:52 PM']Big is good Linus [/quote] Ooooh sir, you like them large do you

So a bit more fiddling tonight and this is what I have settled with so far. MB Combo Bass: 12 o' Clock (FLAT) Mid Low: 10 o' Clock Mid High: 12 o' Clock (FLAT) Treble: 12 o' Clock (FLAT) VLE Filter: OFF VPF Filter: 8 o'clock Stingray Volume: Full Treble: 50% Bass: 20% This sounded very clean and balanced and very close to the sound I am after. I could get it to sound good with no VPF filter but to my ears it sounded a little sweeter and less nasaly with a little turned on. I could also get it to sound very good with Pete's suggestion on turning the bass to full on the Ray but it did make the sound very big. I also had to put the treble on the Ray to about 60% and turn the bass on the MarkBass down to about 10 o'clock but the good thing is it was workable. I have rehearsal tonight which I will record so I will be trying these settings and reporting back. Going to try with no VPF at some point. Can I just say this thread has been brilliant. So very helpful and such a great wealth of knowledge. Thanks so far everyone for your input. I am determined to get a decent sound from my Stingray.

[quote name='Coilte' post='1342153' date='Aug 16 2011, 05:26 PM']Agreed, but so what, is the person wants and can afford it ????[/quote] Totally but thats not what I am saying. No harm in having a £5k bass for pub gigs or even home use, the same as its perfectly ok to have a McLaren F1 Road car as your daily drive if you want and can afford it. My Elise S1 used to be my daily drive and thats a road going trackday car.