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I would have liked to come down to this but it is on the same weekend as the Moffat Bass Bash. I can think of three or four other guys that would probably go to this if it was not on the same weekend.

Thanks.

Do you have contact details for Steven I can't get in touch with him the mail address I have is bouncing back.

There has been a side by side between the two cabs at the Yorkshire bash in Harrogate. It was a pre production version of the EAD.

You could come to the Moffat bass bash where there will be plenty of amps and cabs to try in the one room. We will even have a band for context if needed.

I have to disagree regarding the price it is a 3 way cab with a custom crossover. I have seen 2 way design that cost more. It is the best built cab I have ever owned as well as the best sounding. When you get a chance to see and try one you will understand why I think the price is a great deal.

Just about a mo th to go and still a few rooms available for the full weekend.

I have an F500 running into an EAD Foundation 212 and it is simply fantastic.

Maybe next year Steve.

Currently 3 rooms left for the Saturday night/weekend ticket.

I was wondering why there was no sign of it on their site.

Looking forward to that review very interested in it. Will you be doing the others in the range. Alan

Still weekend tickets left.

Hi The details of the next bash are now on the Bass Bash website. Small price increase this year due to everything going up in price. As always there is a limited number of tickets for the Saturday night and it is first come first served so I would not leave it very long if you want to attend the full weekend Same format as last year with Bassyokey with the house band. The song list will be up on the website this week and if you want to play a tune get in touch with Dave Perry to book your slot. Any gear you are bringing along let Dave know so it can be listed on the site same as usual. Any questions about the Bassyokey Dave is your man any thing I will sort out. Updates in this thread as we go along. Cheers Alan [url="http://www.moffatbassbash.co.uk"]http://www.moffatbassbash.co.uk[/url]

Hi Nice work. Could you link to the bass player thing I can't find it.

Hi Yes in the fretless 4 headless.

I am going to produce a range to use the pickups in. Best of woods materials hardware etc with no options since they will all be included. In that context the pickups are doable as an upgrade I am not so sure. Time will tell.

[quote name='scojack' timestamp='1351156988' post='1847940'] Oohh thats interesting Alan...think you may be onto a winner there [/quote] I live in hope but they are taking a while to get of the ground and the price is a bit of a nose bleed moment. Complicated and time consuming to build and they also need an interface board which John East is designing for me.

I have a multi coil pickup with the first bass using them my own bass. I will be launching the new range using them at the London Bass Show.

The TI flats are my favourite flat. The Sunbeams are really nice as well. I am using quiet a few SIT Silencers at the moment they have been going down very well.

[quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1350326573' post='1837404'] Because this is such a friendly forum, I'd like to offer my services as a tester of those prototypes. No charge either [/quote] I will keep that in mind. Cheers alan

Just working on several new guitar designs a few now at the prototype stage.

Running slow on Safari as well. Has been for over a week now.

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Part two. Absolutely. Fodera doesn't charge $10K-$15K for a bass because they are greedy and evil. They have to charge that much, because that's what it costs to build them. When you step up from being a solo Luthier to being a small High-End Bass Company, the cost structure is just as tough, and even more unforgiving. Fodera and Ken Smith are good examples of shops that build expensive basses, with just a few employees. As soon as you hire real employees, you get hit with a whole new layer of laws and costs, such as Worker's Comp and OSHA requirements. You have to pay those costs, or you are in big legal trouble. But thing is that, as soon as you have employees, you are now obligated to pay them, regardless of whether they successfully completed Billable Hour work. The guy doing your painting may have worked hard all week spraying a group of basses, but on Friday he makes a careless mistake and messes them up. As the boss, you still have to pay him for the week's work, plus next week's work when he has to redo them all. But you only get to collect the billable hours for painting them once. Out of the company's income, you have to pay for ALL of the mistakes and ALL of the non-billable hours. It's real outgoing cash, not just wasting some of your own time. Because of these factors, you have to set an Hourly Composite Rate for your company that is 2-4 times what you actually pay your employees. I'm guessing here, but Fodera probably works with an hourly rate of around $100/hr. Their employees probably make $15-$30/hr, a decent living, but not a whole lot of money. Their instruments are probably in a similar range of materials and labor to mine; $300-$400 in parts and materials and 50-75 hours of labor. So, as an example, a low end bass would be $300 in materials plus 50 hours at $100/hr. That's $5300. That's what it actually costs Fodera to build it and have it sitting in their warehouse. Built into that is a certain amount of rework of mistakes and wasted unbillable time. But now you have to sell the bass. As soon as your production level moves above a couple basses per month, you have to add people whose job is selling. Those are the dealers. They need to get paid too, or they aren't going to do it. A dealer likes to make 100%; that is, sell it for twice what they pay for it. That's what they need to cover their own overhead and wasted hours schmoozing the tire-kickers. On a high end bass, they may settle for less, but not too much. So, the dealer buys the bass from Fodera for $5300 and tries to sell it for $10,600. If it sits for a while, he may sell it for $8500. So, the dealer paid Fodera $5300 up front and made a profit of $3200. That may sound like a nice chunk of cash, but remember that his overhead keeps ticking away and he has to keep steadily selling those basses, or he goes home with nothing that week. My point here is that, when you move up into the small company range, then numbers add up and the business model works. It's still risky, but it adds up. But, they have to operate with a composite hourly rate in the $100/hour range. If Fodera tried to operate at $45/hr, they would go broke. The pricing of a Fodera is rational and reasonable. No one is being greedy or making outrageous profits or getting rich. If you looked at Vinnie Fodera's tax returns, I doubt that he makes very much money from the instrument business. The irrational part is us one-man Luthier shops selling basses for $2500. We're nuts.