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Thanks. Sounds awsome. Is that a Fender Jazz Deluxe?

Guys I finally get it. It's like the lights are on. I redid some instruments purely by ear and messing with cutting/boosting at different frequency regions and when i went back to other tracks in the mix it sounded like night and day. Literally used the presets and adjusted frequency. I get what those fellas meant now. I was basically producing telephone grade signal music haha what a tit. Completely used the wrong gizmo. I'm still a bit puzzled tho. My simple brain could compute the high/low cuts/pass filter because it was simple to see that nothing existed beyonf a range once the filter was applied. But why would you want to do a narrow cut of a bass say at any specific range? Is it just a case of leave it if its ok but if there is a muddy noise from the bass recording you just sweep for the problem area? And alternatively there may be nothing wrong with a sound but a subtle change in eq either by boosting or cutting can improve the sound? I'm confused about the low, mid and high bands tho. Are there standard cutoff points where you shouldn't go beyond i.e it would be pointless cutting the bass at 2k. Is it possible for the bands to pass each other so to speak or do they need to be linear, like bass band point cannot go past the mid band point? I find sometimes I am pushing the High band back and it crosses where the mid range icon is so I naturally back off thinking it shouldn't pass that mid point marker. Sorry for rambling. I cant articulate what i mean about the bands overlapping. Hope it makes sense. Thanks again 51. PS. I bet it's a bitch mixing these instruments now

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1335365037' post='1629933'] Cutting just means turning down the volume at a specific frequency. See my eq graph, that would mean I'm cutting at points 1, 2, 4 and 5. Boosting is the opposite, point 3 on my graph. A parametric eq gives you three controls at each point, frequency, gain and Q (or bandwidht). Frequency enables you to choose the point you wish to alter Gain enables you to add or subtract (ie alter) the level at that point Q changes how steeply the eq curve is applied. A narrow Q effects a very small range of frequencies, a wide one effects a large range of frequencies. The human ear is very very adept at picking out narrow Q boosts, they sound extrememly unnatural to us. It is very bad at noticing narrow Q cuts. So in general try to boost with a wide Q, and cut with a narrow Q. When searching for the right frequency to cut, first boost an eq point by say 6dB, then sweep the freqency knob until you hear the area you dont like get louder, tighten the Q and home in on the area as best you can. Then reverse the gain, cutting until the issue is gone without leaving wany weird artifacts. Once you have cut all the crap out of a sound you can then apply gentle wide Q boosts whilst listening in the mix to a sound to get it to sit right, if necessary. This all takes skill and plenty of practice, and equally decent monitors. [/quote] Sorry 51m0n I have been meaning to try this over the weekend before I responded but I still havent got around to doing it. Very busy at the moment but do appreciate your advice. Will feedback soon. I think I've been using the software wrong. [quote name='Rimskidog' timestamp='1335811894' post='1636466'] Agree with everything 51mon says. In respect of the eq on your bass, you are rolling of from 200hz. To put this in some context the bottom-end/low-mid oomf of your bass lives between 60hz and 500 hz. You've cut out almost half of that. 51mon has given good advice on how to find the bit to roll off in practice. It's all just practice and learning to use your ears from there. [/quote] Cheers. Yes, I think I follow but it's applying it to pro-eq that comes with studio one. I've seen some youtube videos were they eq a snare drum. I'll try and use my soiftware to find those problem areas in the vox and try and cut them.

[quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1335430235' post='1630812'] I have found new stuff about ulnar nerve compression which i think might be the cause of all my troubles, different (and less finger murdering) exercises will ensue... It still makes me chuckle that i can play 90% of my usual bass stuff with 3 fingers and thus can still gig. Shame I can't play guitar with 3 fingers, it is making me sad. [/quote] Hmm the plot thickens. Even if i dont use the little finger it still swells. Had 4 day break then played a couple of days lightly and swollen again. No pain anymore but i'm going to have to give it 2 weeks no playing at all and see how it is. Off to google ulnar nerve compression

[quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1335383502' post='1630353'] Hasn't swollen at all for the whole thing. Very weird. And exercises have left me with claws today, so may have been a bad idea. [/quote] Don't overdo it buddy.

Don't worry, the average age on here is about 90

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1335364058' post='1629903'] Your use of grammar has allowed me to envisage the OP with the body and soul of Victor Wooten as a pair of replacement appendages. Why just have his hands, when you could have the man... on each hand? You'd get some quite amazing [i]wrist dive[/i], however, having a top quality bass player as a hand replacement; though leaving you with some excellent tonal options Better than my [i]dildo hands[/i] suggestion. Though that would still work for drummers. And probably improve their table manners. [/quote] How would the wrists attach to the Wootens'? I don't like the obvious solution

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1335312414' post='1629264'] I think your eq slopes are far too gentle for this kind of thing. You need a very steep slope, start off at 20Hz and slowy raise the frequency of the cut, once you hear it take too much away stop and back off a tiny bit. You need superb monitors for this or you risk immasculating your bass, cheap bookshelves and ns10 type monitors are not the tool for this job. Same with the top end, I let very few tracks go all the way up, the last thing I want is a build up of extreme top end, instead I want to allow just the most important tracks (lead vox for instance) to have much info over 16KHz. Gentle slopes terminating in a steep cut are a good way to achieve this IME. What we have here is an eq on a bass track in a mix I did recently - believe me the bass still has balls, I've ntoched out so me problem areas, and applied some very gentle bell eqs to get a bit more presence. Also note the use of q to get a bit of boost above the lowest cut. [attachment=106017:bass_eq.jpg] Most important things are eq in the mix, not soloed, and generally speaking cut tighter than you boost, boost wider than you cut, to get a natural sounding result. [/quote] Thanks man. I'm going to read some stuff I've just downloaded about parametric eq. I think I'm getting mixed up with shelving and cutting. I sort of know what you are saying but need to go back and understand the basic concepts better.

[quote name='ashevans09' timestamp='1335306926' post='1629214'] I know this isn't something you'll want to hear necessarily but a guitarist friend of mine damaged the tendons in his left pinky when he dislocated it. It's absolutely knackered for the time being, and has been told to expect 3 months off playing guitar at least. Tendons are a nasty thing to bugger - had my arm forceably hyperextended and did a few tendons in my right arm and it's taken months (with physio) to get it back to normal. I know it's absolutely balls but a decent length rest now, while crap, might avoid this becoming chronic. [/quote] thanks mate. I hope I've caught it in time. I would be absolutely gutted if its a more permanent thing. [quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1335343194' post='1629415'] Nope, he said if it doesn't get any better to come back, but didn't say when. I have gone for an arbitrary month. (My doctor is famously quite useless) Have been using my powerball and phils elastic band technique without any excess pain, so I think that may be the way forward. [/quote] Month sounds reasonable yet soooooo long. Doesnt your joint swell when you do the band exercises?

[quote name='chaypup' timestamp='1335345735' post='1629464'] Next time, just ask him to watch your right hand REALLY closely............and then slap him with it. [/quote] haha i've been tempted. He only gets away with it because we've been friends since we were kids and i know what he's like. [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1335346590' post='1629481'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZgVRJ-H8U[/media] [/quote] quality

Hi guys I had 2 different people saying the same thing about my mix on this track: [i]is this an internet mix with no dither and made for peoples computer speakers???? no low end at all, like a low cut under 200(or 20 or so ....[/i] [i]the mix is muddy. sounds like a really aggressive bandpass filter got capped over the mix after the limiter stage. this can work if you're going for an intentionally low-fi, AM radio sound. otherwise it sounds amateur.[/i] I have not intentionally done this so its amateurish. I got a book called mixing secrets of the small studio (excellent book) and he advocates doing eq cuts on tracks were there is little useage in a frequency range. shelving. Here's a pro eq plugin on my bass track. Where it's cut is where there was no real data there anyway or the bass had way too much low end. I do this for all my tracks and imo it really clears the mix up: Is this what they mean? I'm cutting too much bass? I don't understand enough about mixing to make the corrections they speak of? I've asked the guys in question but they never responded. i think they can't dumb down enough. Thanks J PS. Any other advice appreciated Edit Whoops heres the track: [url="http://soundcloud.com/so-green-2/need-some-air"]http://soundcloud.com/so-green-2/need-some-air[/url]

Played the sandberg basic and a musicman stingray for the first time today and i thought the sandberg was better by quite a bit for the way i play

If you have a pmt near you they are worth a visit. sell all instruments but have a great selection of basses

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1335204902' post='1627279'] To be fair, our parts are always much easier, since nobody pays much attention to us... 1) at my first first audition ever as a bass player, for an originals band that had not sent me any recordings of their music, the drummer says "just try to follow, and don't worry if you make mistakes, nobody listens to the bass anyway" To by shame, I got the position and I played with them for 2-3 months until I decided that band was a dead end. 2) with Sea Bass Kid, recently. We recorded the rhythm guitar, bass and drums together. Next go two guitarists and main vocals... and one of the guitarists sends me a txt about how much he loves those harmonics I put in the intro. I replied to him "I've been playing it like that for 3-4 months now". He replies, "ah, yeah, I noticed it recently but I could not hear it properly until today... whops, sorry!" I was lying that was something I introduced just before the recording during a rehearsal without him. I only ever played it *once* like that before him. But I made him doubt! [/quote] They don't care really as long as any of your runs don't clash with theirs. Although there is this one tune that i cant play if i'm honest but its a tune i really should be able to play and the guitarist gets really pissed off with me when i mess it up. I'm getting better at it because i've just got the rhythm finally. The thing is, he will play like a bag of sh*te anyway all the way through it because he's spending that much time watching me for a mistake, which surprisingly doesn't help my performance.

[quote name='Lewk' timestamp='1335259130' post='1627946'] cut your hands off and replace them with victor wootens? [/quote] I'd take a shot with anyone elses hands to be fair they'd probably be more coordinated than mine.

[quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1335256504' post='1627894'] I am not playing for a bit. Doc said it was just a strained tendon and it needed to rest. It has been 4 days, I am very bored. I occasionally test it to see if it doesn't hurt anymore. This is a stupid thing to do, because it does. [/quote] Thanks for the feedback Dave. Haha it's hard to resist. Played some basses today though and used it more than i should. think iv'e got the same so will take it easy and when i've got no pain and swelling i'll do those exercises suggested by musophilr were you use a rubber band to stretch the tendons. Got a 2 week layoff from the band because of other stuff so will try hard to resist. Did he give you any idea how long to rest it for?

[IMG]http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee381/JPH10/fenderbasses.jpg[/IMG] My 2 ladies. Nothing rare. Would love them in any colour to be fair

I shoot with this hand haha. They dont make them like that anymore. I really want to see KR's other hand now. @John. I think the setups on my p bass is fine but i'm having my mate restring the jazz bass and get the action as low as possible without loads of fret buzz. I had it set up last year for £35 and was very not impressed. It was awful tbh and i had to do the intonation myself.

haha nice lads. I feel like a big pansy now looking at KR's gnarley old flanges. Bet they've been in some exotic places haha. I'll get me coat. w***ing like a gibson is definitley a freudian slip Gust0o

[quote name='merlin' timestamp='1335198550' post='1627115'] the thing I always hear from our guitard,oh sorry had no time,,,he does not work... and why goes he arrive at gigs after every thing has been dragged in?? [/quote] +1 for guitard I get this line a lot.."yes it's a nice tune but not really us" and then imo we play quite a few tunes that are on the same ball park. I'm not a meglomaniac but i work like hell on some of the tunes to a) learn them in the first place b} try my best if possible to make them better this takes many hours of hard work. I wonder if the bast.. my colleagues spent a little bit of effort on some of my tunes they might work. The other side of the coin of course is that they don't want to hurt my feelings and my tunes are sh*te.

Lads, sorry to bleat on but I havent played bass for 4 days now and this is definitely improving but swells sometimes especially in the night. Anyone got an idea of how long i should be looking to rest up? Should i start dropping ibuprofen? I wanted to go on a merry jaunt to manchester tomorrow to play some basses and test some amps so will have to just play light with the other fingers. PS if you have any nice plans for tomorrow it will rain cos it always does whenever I'm in Manchester.