stingrayPete1977

[quote name='Number6' timestamp='1418068296' post='2626552'] Should there be tick boxes on the flyers for the gig? 1. Music stands will be in use at this gig 2. Music stands will not be in use at this gig It's only fair after all to let the punters know in advance to avoid them having to walk out in a huff..... [/quote] I'd add.... neo cabs, class D heads, basses with more (or less) than six strings, leds lights other than any starcloth backdrops, left handed bassist that is not Paul McCartney, plectrum used on bass, fingers used on bass but for rock style semi quavers, any slap should be done only under the supervision of Larry Graham unless written permission from either every member of the audience 2 weeks before the gig or from every member of basschat via a poll thread, 1x12 combos only allowed with an extension cab, 8x10 cabs must be used at full volume even for quiet songs, no active basses allowed but passive basses can be used with an outboard preamp as thats totally different, fanned frets under no circumstances, no frets not allowed unless its a double bass unless you play Pino's 'wherever I lay my hat' line between every song all night.

There is a knot near the G on the side of my double bass neck, I tend to work around that, lol

Our main singer in my function band sits down for the whole gig.....

I used to and still do with one band but not if I take an upright, playing a two hour set on the db that was rehearsed on a 5 string electric could be interesting!

It would look terrible if the route was the other way for the MM pickup, it would also look wrong to have the writing different way on each pickup too, plus you would end up with a weak E instead of the weak G from the MM pickup that I've never seen on a Stingray anyway, lol

Phil has nailed it for me, if your drummer is louder than my Genz 2x12 acoustically I'll eat my hat, if you are using that much fold back on stage to make everyone as loud as the amps at full tilt then, A-the pa being used should be able to handle some of your foh to be sent on stage and B-for me personally and don't get me wrong I've been known to rock out, a stage at that volume isn't where I want to be on a regular basis. From my first gig to my last I'd say the loudest stage sound has been in rehearsal rooms or very small venues, the quietest stage volume yet with clarity of all members of the band has been on the largest stages I've played on. One band I play with uses electric drums, it's been known that we can talk at normal volume during a song which is a bit odd and I agree not suited for rocking out but great for certain gigs.

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1418005478' post='2625960'] snitch! [/quote] Ha what should we do with all our money we have saved on batteries?

No one wants to look at the top of the singers head all night but I have no issue with it if they barely look at the book and just glance at it now and then, the songs should be in order in the book before the gig starts though I do agree with that, standing watching someone looking for the words isn't fun for the audience or the band stood like spare parts!

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1418025093' post='2625983'] They're just jealous because they can't read music/don't know the names of the notes. [/quote] Exactly, if these unprofessional bastards with stands didn't need to read the dots they could get another job that takes up all their time instead of earning a living working as a musician then just play at the pub once a month like the rest of us! At least they would look pro without the stands then even if they had to quit being an actual pro and work at B and Q or something,Lol

I bet he sold more stingrays than wal basses though?

I think the Modulus neck that he wanted was the problem more than anything, why they never reunited and put graphite necked rays with a choice of nut width options into production I'll never know?

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1417986028' post='2625804'] Going round in circles here... How do you know what stages you get to play...? Because the person getting the gig will tell me where it is, if we haven't either played there before or seen another band play there we will either go and see it if it's local or search it on the Web, maybe find YouTube clips of other bands there, check the venue website etc etc Is it a question you routinely ask..? I've never turned up at a gig totally blind regarding the venue size to some extent even if it's purely capacity based. do you use a stage tech rider etc etc Do you get one..? If the gig is too big for our pa we either hire a bigger one or use our own guys, both do lights, one of them did the take that tour if you were wondering what level of crew they are![/quote] I've used my 2x12 at the local pub and large outdoor festivals, it is more than enough for any of them.

If its that big it WILL have a proper pa with wedges everywhere possibly ones that sound better than my bass rig, I run a 900watt head but my ears would be bleeding long before it started to distort.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1417984944' post='2625781'] I'm going to make an announcement at my next gig: 'Please stop dancing and instead watch me not using a music stand'. Actually, perhaps I won't bother because normal audiences really do not care about music stands one way or the other. [/quote] this^

Even Larry didn't get a custom Ray, nor did Flea, closest I can think of is either the Tony Levin OLP or the Sledge limited editions.

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1417979760' post='2625721'] Nah, that was before you ditched the Stingray for a Fender [/quote] says precision boy....lol

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1417979219' post='2625713'] Fixed it for you. [/quote] Thats unfair, I think there is maybe two or three people out of all the thousands that likes me, lol

My mate has a Diva, tis gorgeous!

Some bands will knock out dancing in the moonlight and alright now as they have done for the last thirty years and want a pat on the back for not using a stand or a cheat sheet just out of sight from the punters. I had 28 songs to learn for my first gig with the party band in the picture above in about two weeks while gigging with another band, all the keys were changed even on the ones I knew a bit anyway, I had a set list with notes made by each song stuck to the rear of the speaker cab that I glanced at once per song.

There isnt a gig where my 2x12 would lack enough stage volume, if that was running flat out and the rest of the band were matching it then it's not a stage I want to be sharing

[quote name='spacey' timestamp='1417967860' post='2625548'] Personally if I walked in the local to see a covers band and they had music stands up in front of everyone, think I would try the next pub. [/quote] If you had walked in here you wouldn't have seen the band below head height until we finished playing, if you could see the whole band clearly I'd agree the next pub is in order [URL=http://s997.photobucket.com/user/stingraypete/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11/20141101_234638_zps3wbpmcxo.jpg.html][IMG]http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/stingraypete/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11/20141101_234638_zps3wbpmcxo.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Different band, whos looking at the music stand? [URL=http://s997.photobucket.com/user/stingraypete/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/20141031_213317_zpsk4wrimuv.jpg.html][IMG]http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/stingraypete/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/20141031_213317_zpsk4wrimuv.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

I cant agree that its the difference between amateur and pro bands, I've seen FAR more pro level bands with stands. Heres a thing, if your band is so good no one should be watching the band unless they are up on a proper stage, if you are a good function/covers band the view should be obscured by all the people dancing, just sayin'

Everyone wants them to offer the same build options as Fender, Fender are something like £250'000'000 in debt, as much as Sterling appears a cock who has the right business model?

I cant fault either PMT or GG in birmingham for service, im certain both of those shops would have got me a coffee while someone jumped in a car and got them.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1417879343' post='2624807'] Not so sure... depends on the gig. Quite a few guys that I know don't own them ( haven't been allowed to keep them ) so that means the gig has to be geared up to afford them and some gigs can and some probably can't. You'll still need a sound source and that may be direct or mic'd... If you are talking top top level, then in ears will be a factor mostly, but down the scale..?? [/quote] The guy I know that will be playing stadiums with his modular MarkBass 4x12 does not use in ears and I am sure he will have a killer live sound on and off the stage, they will have a massive pa of course but even so I still think the bass amp as such is a small part of the live kit, many people dont mic them up yet comment on such a rig sounding great, can you hear the rig clearly at the back of the NEC?