stingrayPete1977

Trouble is its another person that needs to be free for the gig dates, even a trio can be an arse finding dates we can all do. Good used gear bought between the band is the best way imo, hire a cheap community centre for a 4 or 5 hour session purely to learn how it all works and make it clear that is the purpose of the practice not 4 hours of playing with every knob on the guitarist multi fx unit! You could even pay someone or get a fellow basschatter to come and help explain it all, colour code all the leads and make an idiots guide and laminate it, keep it all in a tidy box etc. Every band has a limit where outside help is required, knowing the venues and what will be needed is a must imo, no point hiring a sound crew only to realise your pa would have been fine or turning up to a huge venue with your passive 12s because the drummer said "its not that big from what I remember" lol. We hire a big bass bin and an amp/crossover unit from our local place if we think we need it, he charges us £20 a go. I already had a Mackie profx12 desk when I joined the trio, the guitarist had an LD System stage pa thing that acts as a sub and our stage monitoring so we bought a power amp and a pair of mint but used Mackie 12"tops with covers already fitted between us. The amp belongs to the guitarist and the cabs owe us £100 each if we split up, tbh I'd buy the two shares out even though they have paid for themselves which I'm sure they would be happy with.

I'd rather go out of my way to see something I've not seen before, I'm going to see onehandloose on Friday with his rockabilly band, I've never been to a rockabilly gig and I won't walk out if I don't like the look of them! The best function band I've ever seen was a klezmer band in Manchester, they were all clearly pro players bought together by the lady bassist and front women, stands were used for some songs but they were incredible! 150 people dancing to klezmer music obscuring the band so I doubt they were too bothered?

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1418075908' post='2626720'] Then he's a twat. [/quote] or got something to send to the op when he says he disagrees with his sums? (We already know he is a twat, the op has told us )

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1418076156' post='2626723'] Especially without the crutch of a music stand. [/quote] That might even be a plectrum in my hand looking at my right hand? Terrible!

[quote name='jezzaboy' timestamp='1418076208' post='2626725'] I wish I could sit down and play the bass during the gig. I much prefer it. Or would that be un-professional and would people leave the pub? [/quote] Well he is the drummer, lol. I doubt singing drummers are allowed anyway are they?

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1418031971' post='2626054'] I am always amazed how many singers seem to have no regime for looking after their voice.. One of the reasons why we don't/can't do more than 2 hrs... [/quote] The female singer in my function band went for a lesson with a vocal coach, the coach asked her "whats you warmup regime?" "?erm a pint of Stella and a fag?" "No no you cant have a pint of Stella before a gig!" "What about Carling?" 100% true story, never been back but she can knock out some blondie, pretenders, specials etc so its all good.

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1418075442' post='2626711'] Whilst his arithmetic is correct, the calculations he's used to get there aren't. In short, if his valuations are reasonable he's paying you £31.50 too much! [/quote] Lol

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1418075085' post='2626706'] If the valuations are anything close to realistic then take the money and get out fast before he changes his mind. But the figures make no sense. No one says 'two tops are worth £218 pounds', they would say £220, or even just £200. [/quote] maybe he is quoting ebay final sale prices though?

I'll grab it now, its on the coat/hat stand.....lol

It's only possible if there is a DB in shot, lol

Muststand Sally?

More than words-Extreme?

[quote name='Number6' timestamp='1418072415' post='2626628'] Maybe also list some alternative gigs on the same night add the travel directions as an all round service to the punters. [/quote] How will the band know they have annoyed a bassist if they dont see them walk in and right out again then though, mind you if the band dont look up they wont have noticed, maybe we should email the venue and tell them to pass the message on to the band?

It was a black postcard ernie ball thing.

My 2010 came with a card to fill in, send it off and they send you a pack of strings, you can have anything inc guitar strings but playing a 5er meant good value for money getting a fresh set of the green five string ones for nowt

[quote name='neptunehealer' timestamp='1418073545' post='2626659'] This will explain how he came to £63: Hi exact message he sent: [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]I have gone online and seen the value of it all second hand.[/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]The mixer and power amp I will keep as it will be used next year.[/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]Right [/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]The two tops combined second hand are worth :£218[/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]The subs combined second hand valued at £318[/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]The mixer is valued second hand at £ 270[/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]The power amp valued at £329[/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]So if I keep the mixer and power amp its worth £ 599[/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]If you keep the speakers all 4 they combined are worth £536 you can choose to sell or use in a new project.[/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]Of course I will pay you the difference Between £599 - £536 = £63. [/font][/color] [color=#373E4D][font=Helvetica, Arial,]That way its simple fair and we still have to only buy certain gear to complete a complete Pa system if we wanted to use it with future projects.[/font][/color] [/quote] So he has done what I suggested to you, lol. The only question here is are his valuations correct in your opinion?

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1418072336' post='2626626'] You've had 5 years use out of the PA. How much did you pay towards it. The ususal way to solve this would be to put it on eBay and split what's left 4 ways and give the guys who walked away their cut too. The speakers will be no use to you on their own and second hand value very low. I'd either take his offer or walk away. Personally I would always go for one person owns the PA and the band hire it. [/quote] With respect the op has not stated what the equipment is, it could be a nice powered sub and a digital desk worth far more than the 4 old speakers and £63 in which case walking away would be an unfair suggestion imo. What about making an itinerary of all the parts individually, find 10 completed ebay listings for each bit and asking him to agree to taking an average sale price as the given market value, add up the bits he wants take away the bits you want (end up with), email the list/proposal to him stating that you have checked the legal position (basschat lawyers,lol) and the only other option is to get a 3rd party to sell it and divide the cash up, make it clear he is welcome to bid on it just to piss him off a bit!

Not my music stand stand btw, lol

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1418071415' post='2626605'] The bigger the stage the smaller the rig you actually need. Get big enough and a di box would be big enough [/quote] That is my finding, at my haloween gig I could hear myself louder from the onstage sub and our log burner monitor than my own amp (its behind my upright), it sounded great too especially with the DB! I could have left my cab at home and just used the di out off my shuttlemax head or even just used my Behringer BDI21 box. [URL=http://s997.photobucket.com/user/stingraypete/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/20141031_230754_zpsl6ibnv92.jpg.html][IMG]http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/stingraypete/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/20141031_230754_zpsl6ibnv92.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Fingers crossed, you should get a free set of your choice with the bass too if you post the registration card I think?

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1418071132' post='2626597'] If you put the lyrics on there too then everyone will be able to sing along. [/quote] And maybe some suggestions of what they should wear just in case they thought they were out to enjoy themselves rather than nit pik every aspect of the band!? Lol

I was thinking more like handing out ipads on hercules stands so the punters dont need to put their pint down to read them

I better check my neck plates! Where do they crack? S and T always been good for me, a genuine mm pickguard is about half the price of a copy off ebay too!

[quote name='Old Horse Murphy' timestamp='1418069827' post='2626571'] Might be a bit obvious, but have you changed the battery? Happened to me once [/quote]Beat me too it

The five year old strings need replacing before you do anything else and what about the battery?