Valeton GP-5

[carlsim]

3 hours ago, Sean said:

How did you get on programming the MIDI switcher? 

Haven't yet - on my list of things to do. From what I have read / watched though it looks pretty straight forward and i reckon I won't be doing much more than what @dave_bass5 is doing... turning stuff off and on and moving up and down patches...

[dave_bass5]

17 hours ago, carlsim said:

Haven't yet - on my list of things to do. From what I have read / watched though it looks pretty straight forward and i reckon I won't be doing much more than what @dave_bass5 is doing... turning stuff off and on and moving up and down patches...

I got mine off Aliexpress and Temu (got two, long story). Arrived within a week and cost about £20 each. I couldn't find anywhere in the UK that sold them at a reasonable price. 

Edited December 3 by dave_bass5

[carlsim]

9 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

I got mine off Aliexpress and Temu (got two, long story). Arrived within a week and cost about £20 each. I couldn't find anywhere in the UK that sold them at a reasonable price. 

 

Mine is coming from Temu as well - about £20 as you mentioned. Bargain for that price! Amazon was quicker for delivery but and extra £15 or so...

[dave_bass5]

1 hour ago, carlsim said:

 

Mine is coming from Temu as well - about £20 as you mentioned. Bargain for that price! Amazon was quicker for delivery but and extra £15 or so...

I couldn’t find one on Amazon for a decent price. All the normal priced ones said i was outside of the delivery zone (central london). I’m not sure why they are on Amazon UK if that’s the case. 
 

[carlsim]

I found them on prime delivery but at £42... would rather wait a few more days and get it for half the price!

[dave_bass5]

1 minute ago, carlsim said:

I found them on prime delivery but at £42... would rather wait a few more days and get it for half the price!

Yeah, to me that’s way too expensive for what it is. 

[Al Krow]

Have any of you GP-5 owners been able to record some of the fx and amp and cab sims to give us a sense of how decent the GP-5 is as a multi-fx?

[carlsim]

1 hour ago, Al Krow said:

Have any of you GP-5 owners been able to record some of the fx and amp and cab sims to give us a sense of how decent the GP-5 is as a multi-fx?

 

So, a very quick and rough bash with some recording. SRay5 straight into the GP-5, into my interface. Haven't set it up as an independent interface yet.

 

Bass mp3 file - 2 NAM files downloaded from Tone3000 - EBS Bass Rig first, GR Bass Cube second and then the standard finger bass preset the GP-5 comes with.

 

the rest should be as they are described. very much FX loaded as they come - very little faffing or editing (please excuse the playing) - will hopefully give you an idea. The only thing for me is controlling how much FX (chorus etc.) that you can add - no wet / dry mix level - or am I missing something here?? I would have liked a touch more chorus and phaser. But, I don't really need a phaser so it's a moot point for me!

 

Anyway... I hope this helps. It's a great little pedal - I only really intend to use it as a preamp / NAM loading pedal with maybe a smidge of chorus so will suit me perfectly!

 

Carl.

 

So the order is:

Bass with Chorus and reverb

Bass with chorus

Bass drive (preset)

Bass and octaver - probably it's weak point

Bass phaser

Bass slap (preset)

Bass NAM files and bass finger preset

 

Edited December 3 by carlsim

[Al Krow]

34 minutes ago, carlsim said:

 

So, a very quick and rough bash with some recording. SRay5 straight into the GP-5, into my interface. Haven't set it up as an independent interface yet.

 

Bass mp3 file - 2 NAM files downloaded from Tone3000 - EBS Bass Rig first, GR Bass Cube second and then the standard finger bass preset the GP-5 comes with.

 

the rest should be as they are described. very much FX loaded as they come - very little faffing or editing (please excuse the playing) - will hopefully give you an idea. The only thing for me is controlling how much FX (chorus etc.) that you can add - no wet / dry mix level - or am I missing something here?? I would have liked a touch more chorus and phaser. But, I don't really need a phaser so it's a moot point for me!

 

Anyway... I hope this helps. It's a great little pedal - I only really intend to use it as a preamp / NAM loading pedal with maybe a smidge of chorus so will suit me perfectly!

 

Carl.

 

So the order is:

Bass with Chorus and reverb

Bass with chorus

Bass drive (preset)

Bass and octaver - probably it's weak point

Bass phaser

Bass slap (preset)

Bass NAM files and bass finger preset

 

 

 

Amazing thanks! Looking forward to having a listen, as I'm sure others are!

 

Exactly the sort of post that makes BC such a great forum - thanks Carl!

[carlsim]

9 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

 

Amazing thanks! Looking forward to having a listen, as I'm sure others are!

 

Exactly the sort of post that makes BC such a great forum - thanks Carl!

 

No worries. 

[Woodinblack]

That sounds fine for what it is, some extra effects, as long as you make sure the octaver never gets switched on!

 

[Al Krow]

17 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

That sounds fine for what it is, some extra effects, as long as you make sure the octaver never gets switched on!

 

 

A shame the octaver is so poor - given how good the Valeton OC10 was. But I guess that was an analogue version (rip-off?) of the Boss OC2 rather than being digital. Multi-fx always seem to struggle with pitch-shift, some doing it better than others, so I guess no real surprise?

[carlsim]

Yeah the octaver is definitely the weak point with the pedal. Saying that, it isn't strictly an octaver, it's a pitch shift effect so maybe an octave is too far for it (anyone using a transpose function in a DAW will know this). I sold an OC-10 recently and it was a cracking little pedal so it is a shame this part is so weak. Again, as @Al Krow mentions, an analogue pedal vs a digital recreation is always going to be poor mans version.

 

Saying that, I don't see myself using it for this anyway, and as a preamp / modeller / NAM pedal, I think it's a cracking bit of kit. My only gripe is that the mod effects don't have a wet / dry mix control, delay and reverbs do, but I would have preferred to be able to control how much chorus I add to my sound. Yes, I can tame it with the controls but a wet / dry mix level should really be there in my view.

Edited December 4 by carlsim

[dave_bass5]

23 minutes ago, carlsim said:

Yeah the octaver is definitely the weak point with the pedal. Saying that, it isn't strictly an octaver, it's a pitch shift effect so maybe an octave is too far for it (anyone using a transpose function in a DAW will know this). I sold an OC-10 recently and it was a cracking little pedal so it is a shame this part is so weak. Again, as @Al Krow mentions, an analogue pedal vs a digital recreation is always going to be poor mans version.

 

Saying that, I don't see myself using it for this anyway, and as a preamp / modeller / NAM pedal, I think it's a cracking bit of kit. My only gripe is that the mod effects don't have a wet / dry mix control, delay and reverbs do, but I would have preferred to be able to control how much chorus I add to my sound. Yes, I can tame it with the controls but a wet / dry mix level should really be there in my view.

Agree, the Modulation effects are very limited. 

[dudewheresmybass]

but not that they are bad. I'm quite enjoying the chorus B atm

[dave_bass5]

12 minutes ago, dudewheresmybass said:

but not that they are bad. I'm quite enjoying the chorus B atm

Oh yeah, not knocking them as such, just wish they had a few more options. 

[dudewheresmybass]

very fair

[dave_bass5]

Id still love to try the Tone X one, but it seems more hassle and expense to get the Chocolate Plus working with it. 

[carlsim]

I must admit, setting up the chocolate plus with the Valeton was an absolute doddle!!

[dudewheresmybass]

I may be asking for some help over the next few days - When my Choco + arrives lol

 

[carlsim]

19 hours ago, dudewheresmybass said:

I may be asking for some help over the next few days - When my Choco + arrives lol

 

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[carlsim]

Basically, I just watched the video below. It's pretty straightforward to follow (it's good to have an understanding of MIDI implementation first but not essential) and it doesn't take too long.

 

Make sure you check out the MIDI implementation in the back of the Valeton manual so you can assign the correct CC / PC number to the chocolate depending on what you want the pedal to do. I have my 2 most commonly used patched on the first 2 buttons and then patch up and down on buttons 3 and 4. I also set up some additional patches on a 2nd bank which is easy to do.

 

 

 

[dave_bass5]

Yeah, thats the same video i watched before doing it. 

[dave_bass5]

So who's upgrading to the GP-50? Already placed my pre order in. 

[Woodinblack]

Looks good, is it the same thing with a battery and controls (and a built in drum machine)?