New Fender Standard Series Basses!

[Terry M.]

12 minutes ago, Lozz196 said:

Slightly higher string tension on string through. I have found on my string through Precisions that there is a tad less mids but we’re really talking a waffer theen meent amount here.

Through bridge or body with regards to string tension? I can live without the choice as I'm personally convinced it's mainly just marketing. 

[Lozz196]

Through the body it’s slightly more. 

[Stub Mandrel]

Nothing that doesn't pale into insignificance compared to amp settings. 

[danhkr]

6 hours ago, HeadlessBassist said:

 

Apart from the American basses using better grade woods, completely different pickups, through body stringing and much better quality hardware. Or at least they do at the moment... Wait for the inevitable cost cutting skunk stripe neck and top loading truss rod coming in the successor to the American Professional II. I wouldn't be surprised if the through body stringing is deleted as well, as well as the £38 big square high mass bridge being adopted too.

I was being sarcastic 

[HeadlessBassist]

49 minutes ago, danhkr said:

I was being sarcastic 

 

Sarcasm is often difficult to detect in text form - Illogical, Captain. 🖖

[danhkr]

27 minutes ago, HeadlessBassist said:

 

Sarcasm is often difficult to detect in text form - Illogical, Captain. 🖖

Which is why I added the ‘by that logic anyway’…but seriously, nevermind ☮️

Edited 15 hours ago by danhkr

[Geek99]

10 hours ago, Terry M. said:

Through bridge or body with regards to string tension? I can live without the choice as I'm personally convinced it's mainly just marketing. 

Youre clearly a witch and must be burned 

how dare you suggest that there is zero practical difference between two choices ? 
 

you’ll be trying to tell me “old wood” is fundamentally different to slightly less old wood next 🤷‍♂️

Edited 12 hours ago by Geek99

[Terry M.]

12 hours ago, Geek99 said:

 

you’ll be trying to tell me “old wood” is fundamentally different to slightly less old wood next 🤷‍♂️

I literally have zero interest in "vintage" basses so I stay away from (old) tonewood debates generally. I currently don't own any basses that offer through-body stringing and it can stay that way as far as I'm concerned. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Terry M.

[HeadlessBassist]

12 hours ago, Geek99 said:

you’ll be trying to tell me “old wood” is fundamentally different to slightly less old wood next 🤷‍♂️

 

Erm... It is. Most stringed instruments gradually gain resonance as the wood seasons over time. Damn, the 'ToneWood Police' will be here soon - better scarper! 

 

 

[Lozz196]

On the basses I have with through-body stringing I always use it. Not for sound, or string tension, but to make sure those darn ferrules don`t fall out and get lost!

[Stub Mandrel]

20 minutes ago, HeadlessBassist said:

 

Erm... It is. Most stringed instruments gradually gain resonance as the wood seasons over time. Damn, the 'ToneWood Police' will be here soon - better scarper! 

 

 

 

What does 'gain resonance' actually mean? How do you measure it? Is it a good thing?

 

The problem is resonance has two essentially different meanings in this context so we iften have different understandings of what we are discussing.

 

In physics:

 

"the reinforcement or prolongation of sound by reflection from a surface or by the synchronous vibration of a neighbouring object."

 

You measure it by applying different frequencies. E.g. play lots of notes and see which ones sustain longest. These will be the resonant frequencies.

 

The ideal for a bass is the same as a speaker cab - to not have any marked resonances that cause particular notes to be exaggerated, causing other notes to seem muted.

 

In music:

 

"the quality in a sound of being deep, full, and reverberating."

 

So yes we want that... but what does it actually mean for instruments? For an acoustic instrument it chiefly means a highly responsive sound board, (with no strong frequency resonances).

 

For an electric instrument it's really just about reasonable sustain (how much do you need?) and a lack of dead spots.  

 

So to 'sound resonant' you want to minimise any 'resonants'.

 

😁

[Chiliwailer]

48 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

 

What does 'gain resonance' actually mean? How do you measure it? Is it a good thing?

 

The problem is resonance has two essentially different meanings in this context so we iften have different understandings of what we are discussing.

 

In physics:

 

"the reinforcement or prolongation of sound by reflection from a surface or by the synchronous vibration of a neighbouring object."

 

You measure it by applying different frequencies. E.g. play lots of notes and see which ones sustain longest. These will be the resonant frequencies.

 

The ideal for a bass is the same as a speaker cab - to not have any marked resonances that cause particular notes to be exaggerated, causing other notes to seem muted.

 

In music:

 

"the quality in a sound of being deep, full, and reverberating."

 

So yes we want that... but what does it actually mean for instruments? For an acoustic instrument it chiefly means a highly responsive sound board, (with no strong frequency resonances).

 

For an electric instrument it's really just about reasonable sustain (how much do you need?) and a lack of dead spots.  

 

So to 'sound resonant' you want to minimise any 'resonants'.

 

😁

Blooming heck mate, that blew my mind…. And there I was thinking terms like phat and heft had this covered 😊