Pedal option paralysis

[Quatschmacher]

3 hours ago, 2pods said:

@Quatschmacher

Let me know if your C4 is on the block

That’s one of the less likely candidates. 

[2pods]

First dibs anyway ?

[Quatschmacher]

17 minutes ago, 2pods said:

First dibs anyway ?

2nd dibs, I’m afraid, someone else also asked. 😆

[2pods]

Not to worry 

 

I'm still enjoying your EQ2.

[2pods]

......and, as if by magic, a C4 appears in the "FX for Sale" sub forum for me to buy.

 

[Quatschmacher]

This is still ongoing. Shifted a couple of things, have managed to acquire a few new things, a couple of which a definite keepers, one of which I’ve decided not to keep. Have listed a few more.

 

Got the following up for sale now

 

Source Audio: Aftershock, Nemesis delay and Ventris reverb.

 

Maestro Orbit phaser. 
 

Kind of regretting selling my Wombtone MKII a bit now and attempted to buy another. Got outbid on it at the weekend.

[Quatschmacher]

Well, I did end up selling my analogue octavers (might regret that). Also let my MuTron Microtron go because I found a digital pedal that is almost indistinguishable. Down to 17 now, only 5 are analogue. 

Edited May 13 by Quatschmacher

[bassbora]

I would love to know what you think is worth keeping then haha

[Quatschmacher]

At the moment the list is:

Panda Audio Future Impact I and V4

Source Audio C4

Source Audio Lunar

Source Audio Spectrum

Source Audio Collider

Source Audio Ventris

Source Audio Atlas

Source Audio Nemesis ADT

Source Audio Bass ZIO

MXR Bass Envelope Filter

Singular Sound Beat Buddy

TC Electronic June 60 Chorus

Broughton Audio Fliptop

MXR Phase 95

Plus something I can’t disclose yet.

 

I’m selling the June 60 chorus. 

 

I’m fairly sure I’ll get another analogue octaver though. The one in the C4/Spectrum is very good but isn’t quite the same. 

[SumOne]

I've gotta say, I've only recently gone through the cycle of downsizing and selling pedals to go as minimal as I can with a small multi-fx (Boss GT 1000 Core, my third one!) but already I'm eyeing up individual pedals on this forum and elsewhere!

 

What I'm asking myself is: Can the GT 1000 Core 1000 that I have sound/work better than or be more fun than:

• FI V4 for Synth = No
• Analogue envelope filter = No
• SA EQ2 = Sort of, the Core can do all the same stuff (and probably more) but I think I'd prefer he EQ2 display showing what the EQ is doing and having a pedal specifically to go through EQ presets.
• Idiotbox Blowerbox Deluxe = No (the Core drives are good, but from what I remember of the Blowerbox it sounds a bit better.
• Cali 76 Bass mk2 = No (the Core compressor is good, but I'd prefer better metering and hands on controls) 
• Tuner = Draw (and the EQ2 could perhaps stand-in as tuner)
• LS2: Sort of, I need to switch between Basses, the Core can do this but it takes some preset planning and takes a valuable footswitch and isn't quite as obvious as footswitch to change input with 'red light/green light'

.......but the GT obviously also has all the other effects and routing options and would sell for about £370 whereas the individual pedals would be about £1k and more bulky to move around. A bit Heart vs Mind.

 

So if you are anything like me, it becomes a cycle (one where the high frequency is starting to annoy me). I think my conclusion has to just be that I enjoy it.

 

 

Edited May 13 by SumOne

[Quatschmacher]

37 minutes ago, SumOne said:

I've gotta say, I've only recently gone through the cycle of downsizing and selling pedals to go as minimal as I can with a small multi-fx (Boss GT 1000 Core, my third one!) but already I'm eyeing up individual pedals on this forum and elsewhere!

 

What I'm asking myself is: Can the GT 1000 Core 1000 that I have sound/work better than or be more fun than:

• FI V4 for Synth = No
• Analogue envelope filter = No
• SA EQ2 = Sort of, the Core can do all the same stuff (and probably more) but I think I'd prefer he EQ2 display showing what the EQ is doing and having a pedal specifically to go through EQ presets.
• Idiotbox Blowerbox Deluxe = No (the Core drives are good, but from what I remember of the Blowerbox it sounds a bit better.
• Cali 76 Bass mk2 = No (the Core compressor is good, but I'd prefer better metering and hands on controls) 
• Tuner = Draw (and the EQ2 could perhaps stand-in as tuner)
• LS2: Sort of, I need to switch between Basses, the Core can do this but it takes some preset planning and takes a valuable footswitch and isn't quite as obvious as footswitch to change input with 'red light/green light'

.......but the GT obviously also has all the other effects and routing options and would sell for about £370 whereas the individual pedals would be about £1k and more bulky to move around. A bit Heart vs Mind.

 

So if you are anything like me, it becomes a cycle (one where the high frequency is starting to annoy me). I think my conclusion has to just be that I enjoy it.

 

 

For me, much of my setup was centred around synth sounds, but since getting my keys chops to a reasonable standard now I feel I’ll do all that stuff on keys. (The exception is the FI as it is a synth and I’m still heavily involved in its development.) Hence I’ve shifted a bunch of stuff that I was using to do synth sounds.

 

I definitely enjoy the process of trying stuff out but seem to have moved onto bigger toys with synths. Still, I’m trying to look at what I’m using to make music versus what I’m just using to muck around with. I’m really trying to pare down to what I’m most likely to use regularly and for bass, aside from the FI, that’s likely to be envelope filter, phaser, octaver and a preamp. (The delay and reverb stuff is good in conjunction with the synths. I still need to get my head around compression.)

 

Oh, and regarding analogue envelope filter, wait until you get your hands on the thing I cannot name yet, it may well change your mind. It really is that good. 

[SumOne]

19 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

 

Oh, and regarding analogue envelope filter, wait until you get your hands on the thing I cannot name yet, it may well change your mind. It really is that good. 

 

Exciting! 

 

My issue with digital envelope filters might well just be bias in my head. It's not so much that they sound different A/B with analogue in recordings, it's more that they've never felt quite as good to play - perhaps the way they are can be dialled in with physical dials, or very small delay for processing. 

[Quatschmacher]

12 minutes ago, SumOne said:

 

Exciting! 

 

My issue with digital envelope filters might well just be bias in my head. It's not so much that they sound different A/B with analogue in recordings, it's more that they've never felt quite as good to play - perhaps the way they are can be dialled in with physical dials, or very small delay for processing. 

Feel is the only detectable difference in this one. More precisely, it’s the way the envelope decay time changes when playing harder and softer. There’s very little in it though and this digital one is plenty responsive. Has a good knobby interface too so not lacking at all for hands-on panel control. 

[Quatschmacher]

Down to 15 now, which is more manageable but probably still too many. 

[LukeFRC]

5 hours ago, Quatschmacher said:

Down to 15 now, which is more manageable but probably still too many. 

Future impact and A lot of source audio stuff, that you’ve spent a lot of time working with and helping out with - don’t sweat it too much - you’re invested in what you’ve got. Get a small board made up maybe, thenget a shelf and put on display? 

[krispn]

My rule was always keep a board and PSU which could only take X amount of pedals/ power a specific number of pedals… which was tricky as my old and new preamp units were big and my old

comp was a big box Cali😳 I might have piggy backed a few things back then!
 

This way both space and power were factors.  If I want to try a new pedal I really need it to do more or significantly different/ better than what it replaces. I had a bit of flourish trying some new pieces of gear out about 18 months ago but the core board has remained pretty stable for as long if not longer. Latest addition has been an octave pedal but my singers had a stroke so not sure when I’ll really get much chance to use it! 

[Quatschmacher]

23 minutes ago, krispn said:

My rule was always keep a board and PSU which could only take X amount of pedals/ power a specific number of pedals… which was tricky as my old and new preamp units were big and my old

comp was a big box Cali😳 I might have piggy backed a few things back then!
 

This way both space and power were factors.  If I want to try a new pedal I really need it to do more or significantly different/ better than what it replaces. I had a bit of flourish trying some new pieces of gear out about 18 months ago but the core board has remained pretty stable for as long if not longer. Latest addition has been an octave pedal but my singers had a stroke so not sure when I’ll really get much chance to use it! 

Oh, sorry to hear about your singer that sounds terrible.

 

If you ever decide to sell the octave again, please let me know as I might well want to buy it back. (I am now totally without an analogue octaver for the first time in many years. Not missing it as yet as I’m busy with other things but I imagine I’ll yearn for one again sometime in the not-too-distant future.)