EBS_freak Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 You'd hope theres an EQ on the output - because if you are using wedges, you'd want to be able to notch frequencies as an absolute minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb625 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 48 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: You'd hope theres an EQ on the output - because if you are using wedges, you'd want to be able to notch frequencies as an absolute minimum. EQ on the auxes looks to be available on the main app, just not CQ4You. There's a 4 band PEQ, RTA, feedback assistant, compressor and limiter (there's a GEQ button, but it doesn't seem to have a function) The link function gives you up to 3 stereo outputs, although you can mix and match, depending on your particular usage. Based purely on the app, I'd say it looks pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Good stuff. I thought they would have been MASSIVE oversights if they weren't included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 WAIT - hang on, no GEQ on the output? So not notching, only parametric? OK for inears, not great for wedges. (Although A&H may go, the feedback assist does away for the need for a graphic.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, EBS_freak said: Although A&H may go, the feedback assist does away for the need for a graphic I tend to agree with this, even a 1/3 octave graphic takes out a big wedge of sound compared to the hi Q filters on the feedback suppression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb625 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, EBS_freak said: WAIT - hang on, no GEQ on the output? So not notching, only parametric? OK for inears, not great for wedges. (Although A&H may go, the feedback assist does away for the need for a graphic.) I can't work out how to enable it on the app, but that may just be because I'm running demo mode and not connected to an actual unit. There is a big warning that pops up if you switch the feedback assist off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLOYDWT Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 So, I can confirm, you need to set a stereo pair of outputs in the main mixing app, and this can then be selected by the CQ4You app (thanks, EBS_freak). You can then pan the individual channels from the sub-group screens. The main screen scroll wheels adjust the underlying channels relative to one another. I think this is a bug, but I can't rename the 4th sub group. It's stuck as "Me." No matter how many channels are on the main sub mixing screen (as few as 10 if you make everything a stereo pair), the FX channels stay on the second screen (I'd never have found them on my own, thanks, Chienmortbb). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLOYDWT Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Here are the config adjustments you can make on the aux outs. The library feature has A&H's presets, but you can save your own there too. The quick setup feature really is quick. With the gain Auto Set, the copy paste of channels and the presets, you really can get a workable mix dialled in in seconds. Here's the processing screen using the easy presets. You're very limited as to what changes you can make to each channel, but it's very simple to switch a channel back to manual and it pulls over the settings it was using. And another bug... the "Function" dropdown goes blank after using the Soft Keys. It still functions, but it makes it even harder to recall what you've set the Soft Keys to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLOYDWT Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 The device disconnecting from the mixer issue happens on the CQ4You app as well as the CQ-MixPad app. I've now tested both on iPad and Android and the issue persists on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLOYDWT Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 And though sub groups exist in the monitor mix app, they aren't available in the main mixing app (boo!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLOYDWT Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 And... you can mix multiple aux outputs with a single instance of the mixing app on a single device, but the subgroups will be mirrored on all of the auxes (though the underlying levels can be separately controlled). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Remember to feed back your big finds to A&H - they are usually pretty hot on bug fixes and community improvement suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLOYDWT Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: Remember to feed back your big finds to A&H - they are usually pretty hot on bug fixes and community improvement suggestions. I've fed the bugs back to them already; I'll give them a bit of time before before I start suggesting improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, LLOYDWT said: The device disconnecting from the mixer issue happens on the CQ4You app as well as the CQ-MixPad app. I've now tested both on iPad and Android and the issue persists on both. I am probably teaching my grannie to suck eggs , apologies if that is the case. With the Soundcraft Ui, the problem with disconnecting is usually down to the tablet being designed to connect to strong, internet connected networks. It went away once I switched off Auto-Join. Edited September 9, 2023 by Chienmortbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 that's only happened once for me but that is a useful tip John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLOYDWT Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 40 minutes ago, Chienmortbb said: I am probably teaching my grannie to suck eggs , apologies if that is the case. With the Soundcraft Ui, the problem with disconnecting is usually down to the tablet being designed to connect to strong, internet connected networks. It went away once I switched off Auto-Join. It doesn’t disconnect from the WiFi network. It disconnects from the mixing interface whilst maintaining a stable WiFi connection with the mixer. The UI is similar to the Midas/Behringer mixers. You connect to the mixer’s network and then in the app you connect to the mixer. With my Midas, as long as I’m on the network, the app maintains its connection to the mixer; with the A&H, if you’re idle, that connection is broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 It will be when the app isn’t the focus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just looking around all the major retailers, it seems that only the CQ12T is in stock with most. I checked Andertons, Thomman, Gear4Music, BAX, PMT GAK SCAN and only Scan has the CQ20B in stock. The CQ12T is in stock everywhere, and Thomann state several months lead time for the CQ18T. 1-2 Weeks for the CQ20B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) On 09/09/2023 at 08:09, LLOYDWT said: It doesn’t disconnect from the WiFi network. It disconnects from the mixing interface whilst maintaining a stable WiFi connection with the mixer. The UI is similar to the Midas/Behringer mixers. You connect to the mixer’s network and then in the app you connect to the mixer. With my Midas, as long as I’m on the network, the app maintains its connection to the mixer; with the A&H, if you’re idle, that connection is broken. I suspect Kiosk Mode is what you/we need. Are you using an iPad? If so, Guided Access will keep the app in focus (don't confuse what Apple call Focus with what Coders call it). Instructions here note that Accessibility has now been given its own Main menu slot. I have not tried it, but here is a description as to how to get an android device into Kiosk Mode Edited September 10, 2023 by Chienmortbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLOYDWT Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Kiosk mode isn't ideal, even if it works. I want, as I can with my MR18, to be able to go into other apps (OnSong, Tidal, etc.) whilst using the mixing app and then go back into the mixing app, and I want to be able to let the tablet sleep and come back and immediately be able to mix. No client-side changes are required for this functionality in other mixing apps, so I'm sure that A&H can and will resolve it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 I always have a dedicate ipad on the mixer, using another for switching between stuff if needed. Not ideal I know - but I feel I need instant access at all times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLOYDWT Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: I always have a dedicate ipad on the mixer, using another for switching between stuff if needed. Not ideal I know - but I feel I need instant access at all times! I could do this; I've got a couple of iPads (and a couple of mic stand tablet holders). But I'd prefer to run everything from one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 At least there's a physical interface on this mixer. On some of the other mixers out there, the thought of trusting it all to one ipad was a bit too much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb625 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, EBS_freak said: At least there's a physical interface on this mixer. On some of the other mixers out there, the thought of trusting it all to one ipad was a bit too much! There is on the 12 & 18 but the 20B is app only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 This is true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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