KennysFord Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Finding my way round this thing now,it's pretty good eh.I am having a challenge getting my input level up though.I'm plugging the bass straight into my mic/line in socket on my soundcard,I've had a fiddle with the settings but i cant get any more than 1/4 up the level indicator.Do i need a proper interface then or am i missing something. thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 There's an input gain setting on SVX at the bottom. If this doesn't help get a decent soundcard (known as an audio interface). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraktal Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 Yup, most audio cards' input are meant to plug a microphone (low impedance). To have a good signal level when plugging an instrument directly into it you need a soundcard with a high impedance input. Some cards have a button next to the input to switch between high/low impedance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.funk Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 [quote name='MananaMan' post='396173' date='Jan 31 2009, 03:01 PM']don't know why they haven't brought out a stand alone box full of DSP of this - much as Guitar Rig[/quote] I am pretty certain the guitar rig kontrol does not have any dsp processing power what so ever. All it is is an audio interface with a couple of footswitches. I absolutely love GR2, the modifiers are easily the best bit for making sounds that would be impossible with pedals unless you had a 101 arms at your disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MananaMan Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 ah, didn't know that! seems a bit daft really. The liquidmix box is full of it, makes full mixes sooo much easier when you run all your dynamics and rv from a seperate DSP - you can get [i]really[/i] silly with a mix with one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biro Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 that's a great review. Anyhow, I understand those who pointed out the BA500 thing. I've tried to tweak it a lot. In vain. It just seems not to be able to deliver a good sound for today's bass players. The solid state tone it's got sounds pointless to me. It's not exactly what one would call "clean", nor is it a very gritty sounding head. Since we are living in the age of extremes, I definitely prefer to rely on the CL or the SVT-4. Anyhow, did anyone tried to enable automations (using a host like cubase, reaper... ). i've got some experience in automating Guitar Rig 3 parameters ([url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=IT&hl=it&v=Df1ljlMXpLc&fmt=18"]see here[/url]), but never tried with SVX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agoulding Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 my mate has this and its great but very unimpressed with the fx it has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 [quote name='kennyrodg' post='401774' date='Feb 6 2009, 09:24 AM']I'm clueless about software like so a little help please. Can you run this as a stand alone or is it a plug in whereby you need other software to run it ?? I have a fairly decent pcmcia sound card on the lappy with a mic/instrument input which i sometimes use for jamming along to music.If i got this software will it run on it's own,ie with the bass plugged into the sound card.Also could i then plug the lappy into a bass amp ?? Told you i was a dumbass hehe.[/quote] What spec is your laptop? Wanna know if i can run this on mine: 1.6 Celeron M 360 2gig ram M Audio 4/4 usb interface I've always suffered latency so bought the interface (struggled with compatibility issues with my old Tascam) hoping this will sort it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennysFord Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Hi lemmy, not sure about its spec tbh,i would'nt know where to start,if you tell where to look i'll have a go.However it's a fairly old Fujitsu Siemens C series lifebook if that helps.It's never been past 18% of the CPU capacity according to the software.I've no latency problems whatsoever and it sounds great through a cambridge surround sound jobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraktal Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 kennyrodg: Go to Control Panel and double click System. Copy here the info that appears on your screen, that will give us an approximate idea about your PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Ah i should be ok then, think the Lifebook Cs were P3s. I'm sat typing on an old Lifebook B2154 at the moment (it's a 450mhz celeron). Stuck Puppy Linux on it and it flies! Bought it for £29 and stuck a wireless card in it. Think it's a bit under specced for recording though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennysFord Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 So its a f siemens c series lifebook Intel ® Pentium ® M Processor 1.86ghz 1.86ghz,1.49 GB of RAM Thats taken from the general tab and it's written so.I dont think mt laptop is anything special,i bought it second hand so i think its at lest 3 or 4 years old,maybe more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Ah cool, should be ok then! Cheers dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy_Marsh Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 i have this, and it is really really good! used it to record a bit of bass stuff for one of my bands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh3184 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 i um <cough> was wondering how much this costs or if there is a free version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennysFord Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I used the software at rehearsal last night.I have a Creative audigy soundblaster pcmcia card in the lappy,the bass was plugged into the line in on that and then the headphone out went into the jack on my amp.I basically scrolled through the presets till i found something sorta like what i use and then tried to tweak it.If i'm honest,with my amp set flat it was quite muddy on most of them.This could be to do with me going straight into the line in and not using an interface,not sure.If an interface would sort out the tone i wouldnt think twice about using this software live.I've made a few presets for home use and it's a breeze to go from maybe a motown or reggae thud to nice middy funk with a mouse click. Cool stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraktal Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Have in mind your amp is still an amp, even if you set a "flat" EQ, and consequently filters the sound of your bass to its particular tone. Amp emulations will always work much better when listening through headphones, Hi-Fi, monitors or PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennysFord Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Ok,cheers for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvetkevorkian Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Also. plugging a bass into the line in probably won't get the best from it- a line level input is unlikely to get a lot of clarity IME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennysFord Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I borrowed an interface last night to see if i can justify the price of buying one,without success i'm afraid. I'm not doing any home recording and dont plan to yet.It was a Behringer one that comes with their 2442 desk.It only has phono's so i plugged the bass into my mini desk,then from the desk tape out to the interface then USB to the laptop.I either had a mess of crackles or decent tone with major lag.Could it be the interface i used if so do i need a better one or could it have been the lappy.I get no lag using the line but the tone could be better,it's great through the headphones btw. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraktal Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 [quote]I either had a mess of crackles or decent tone with major lag[/quote] That happens all the time when an audio interface is not suitable for real time recording+processing. I doubt you can blame your laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) [quote name='kennyrodg' post='409463' date='Feb 14 2009, 03:12 PM']Could it be the interface i used if so do i need a better one or could it have been the lappy.I get no lag using the line but the tone could be better,it's great through the headphones btw.[/quote] If it sounds great with headphones plugged into the audio interface then the problem sounds more like how you're dealing with the output. You didn't say (or I missed it) how you're sending the audio interface's output to the outside world? Edited February 15, 2009 by Eight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennysFord Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Hi Eight. I could'nt get it to work properly at all with the interface,i got either crackles with no lag or decent tone with loads of lag.I've gone back to using the line in and headphone out on the soundcard. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 [quote name='kennyrodg' post='410607' date='Feb 15 2009, 11:25 PM']I could'nt get it to work properly at all with the interface,i got either crackles with no lag or decent tone with loads of lag.I've gone back to using the line in and headphone out on the soundcard.[/quote] Ah right. I don't think using the headphone out to carry the signal to an amp is going work out too well - but if your soundcard doesn't have a proper out then you're screwed. I'm a bit surprised it all runs okish with a soundcard, but your system is struggling with a proper audio interface. What's the spec of the laptop? Assuming its half decent then you would want an audio interface at some point really - did you use ASIO drivers or MME when you tried the Behringer? I had one interface where the ASIO drivers were woeful - MME was better but problematic so I installed ASIO4ALL (asio emulation for MME devices) and that worked a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Yeh I think it's how you had the interface set up. If you get no latency with your normal soundcard, and it sounds good through headphones, what's the problem? Does it sound crap through an amp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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