fleabag Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I've been on the hunt for a MB NY 604 to match my other one, but it seems to be a fruitless search, and i refuse to buy a new one. I was thinking that, because i have a spare empty cab here ( a Peavey BW 1x15 to be precise ) , i could commandeer that old cab and with some judicious chopping about, re-screwing / baffling , and with a bit of luck ( £4.50 from Screwfix ) and a planet sized lump of magic, could turn it into a 4 X 6, approaching the size of my MB NY 604 Faital Pro's are the weapons of choice, but TS specs always baffle ( sic ) me. If the musketeers could run their beedy eye of the TS and post what they think of them, i might go for it, though its a last resort as i hate DIY more than i hate Chris Evans Faital 6PR150 ( NEO ) http://www.faitalpro.com/en/products/LF_Loudspeakers/product_details/index.php?id=101020110 Faital 6PR110 ( Ferrite ) http://www.faitalpro.com/en/products/LF_Loudspeakers/product_details/index.php?id=101020130 Faital FE200 ( Ferrite ) http://www.faitalpro.com/en/products/LF_Loudspeakers/product_details/index.php?id=401020110 W6N8-120 ( NEO ) http://www.faitalpro.com/en/products/LF_Loudspeakers/product_details/index.php?id=101020150 6PR122 ( NEO ) http://www.faitalpro.com/en/products/LF_Loudspeakers/product_details/index.php?id=101020120 Theres is one more 6" Faital on their list but since it weighs over 12 LBS on its own, hence 4 wading in at over 48 LBS before they've even been hurled into a box, they're out of the question Ta in advance ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) Given that you contemplating spending north of £300 on the drivers I would have thought youd be much better off spending the money on say a phil jones c4 (£334 from thomman). Otherwise, considering you dont know anything about cab design and this isn't a labour of love theres a good probability of you investing a large amount of money, time and aggravation in something which sounds rubbish and has little or no resale value. Edited August 5, 2016 by bassman7755 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Err...no. If you have to DIY, start from scratch. You can't polish a turd. All you'll be doing it rolling said turd in glitter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 If you're wanting to replicate the NY 604, wouldn't it make sense to use the same brand of drivers & get as close a spec as possible? Markbass use B&C drivers (though I believe they now have their own custom made drivers, possibly still by B&C?). It would make more sense though to flog the NY604 & get a cab or two that has what you're looking for already (sound, decibels, looks, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Good points made and having thought about those points over night, maybe i'll just hang out for another MB 604, which would be a lot less grief, i guess Just out of interest, i found 4 of the Faital Pro 6PR150 NEO's for £262 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) [quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1470403784' post='3105785'] Good points made and having thought about those points over night, maybe i'll just hang out for another MB 604, which would be a lot less grief, i guess Just out of interest, i found 4 of the Faital Pro 6PR150 NEO's for £262 [/quote] I haven't tried modelling it, but a quick glance at the 6PR150 spec sheet suggests it wouldn't be an obvious choice for bass guitar. The resonance is very high at 100Hz and the Xmax is quite small at 2.65mm, so I'd be surprised if you could get useful low end out of them. The only Faital 6" that looks like it might be somewhat viable for bass guitar would be the 6FE100, but there are probably better ways to get where you need to go than with multiple 6"s. Edited August 5, 2016 by Beer of the Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 The 6FE100 has a poor 91db rating , though double the Xmax of the 6PR150 Just out of interest, I'd be interested to know the resonance of the MB 604 B&C 6" drivers , because i love the cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 PS I just scanned the B & C website and they don't even list a 6" driver, so i'm guessing that Markbass had them custom built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 FWIW, this review says that they used the B&C 6NDL38. [url="http://epublish.panaprint.com/article/Markbass+F500+Bass+Head+And+New+York+604+Bass+Cabinet/617038/0/article.html"]http://epublish.panaprint.com/article/Markbass+F500+Bass+Head+And+New+York+604+Bass+Cabinet/617038/0/article.html[/url] They would appear to still exist, but you're getting close to £400 for four of them. [url="https://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=BAC6NDL38"]https://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=BAC6NDL38[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Wow - good searching and a very interesting read Only 92db too, but as you say, way too expensive. I'm definately leaning towards the idea of just waiting for another 604 to pop up. At the moment, my own 604 is partnered with my MB NY 122 2x12, but i prefer the dimensions / layout of the 604 and if i find the another 604, i'll dispose of the NY 122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8bass Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Think there might be a 604 on sale at classicandcool , might be worth a call Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 If thats Classic & Cool Guitars, Gary - i cant see any cabs at all, let alone a 604. They only seem to sell guitars from what i can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8bass Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Sorry FB , should have said , give mark a ring It's just under the basses in the " Coming Soon " ( stop sniggering at the back ) Ie , scroll down to under the pics ! Was idling away mulling and cogitating over Limelight's and saw it Played through one for a very short time and liked it plus lightish compact and bijou Hope you can sort something out Cheers Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) Cheers Gary - never thought of looking there. Its more expensive than my last 604 purchase which was a private sale on here, but he's a business and has overheads, so i guess its par for the course I'll ring him and see if he's up for haggling though Thanks bud Edited August 5, 2016 by fleabag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 7, 2016 Author Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) Rang Mark and bought the cab - what a friendly chap he is. I rang him late on his mobile and he was actually out having dinner somewhere with friends Edited May 29, 2017 by fleabag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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