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[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1432571541' post='2782813']
Lots of reviews and info on looping here - [url="http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html"]http://www.loopers-d...t.com/loop.html[/url]

This is something I recorded on my Ditto earlier - [url="https://soundcloud.com/an-ending-ascend/25052015-live"]https://soundcloud.c...d/25052015-live[/url]
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Nice! can you tell us what "a few effects pedals" are, and how you constructed the track with the looper? I've not much further than "play the chords for a 12-bar" and solo over the top.

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Nice! can you tell us what "a few effects pedals" are, and how you constructed the track with the looper? I've not much further than "play the chords for a 12-bar" and solo over the top.
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Thanks, glad you like it !

I've trimmed down the effects that I'm using, I realised I wasn't using most of them. The only effects on this would be my TC hall of fame reverb using the Steve Lawson tone print. There's chorus too, which is an mxr. I have a TC flashback delay too, but I'm not sure if I used that on this.

It was an improvisation.

I'm going to write it out later, I'm happy to put a copy up if you want ?

It's all played using an ebow, except for the melody bit. The ebow has a switch, the high bits that sound like cries are with the switch in the down, away from you position.

Play the melody first, I usually have at least a 4 bar loop, that gives plenty of scope for improv and avoids it sounding too repetitive.

I have some videos that I recorded last week, they kind of show the process. A lot of it is down to how you hear what you're doing. I tend not to think bass.

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[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1432643070' post='2783467']
Thanks, glad you like it !

I've trimmed down the effects that I'm using, I realised I wasn't using most of them. The only effects on this would be my TC hall of fame reverb using the Steve Lawson tone print. There's chorus too, which is an mxr. I have a TC flashback delay too, but I'm not sure if I used that on this.

It was an improvisation.

I'm going to write it out later, I'm happy to put a copy up if you want ?

It's all played using an ebow, except for the melody bit. The ebow has a switch, the high bits that sound like cries are with the switch in the down, away from you position.

Play the melody first, I usually have at least a 4 bar loop, that gives plenty of scope for improv and avoids it sounding too repetitive.

I have some videos that I recorded last week, they kind of show the process. A lot of it is down to how you hear what you're doing. I tend not to think bass.
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Thanks, would really like to see the written-out version.

Do you use volume pedals for fade-in and outs? Or is that the effect of the ebow?

ps is "An Ascent Ending" a nod to Eno?

pps oh scrub that I've just read your Soundcloud profile :)

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Ah interesting. My wife has bought me a Ditto X2 for my birthday. I did a lot of research and spoke to a few people, the Ditto's seemed to strike the right balance between cost and functions. Shame I've got to wait until Sunday for it. :(

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Zoom B3 is a good, easy looper - Vic Wooten uses one on stage.

It also has loads of other stuff on there and drum loops too.

I can bring one to the Herts Bass Bash if you'd like to try one.

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Well, opened the Ditto X2 box yesterday afternoon. Not read the instruction manual yet (typical bloke I guess) but straight away, I was looping and making an unholy racket. Awesome bit of kit and so intuitive. Wife is working a late shift tonight, so will have more play time. But first impressions, simple, easy to use and well made.

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[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1433156736' post='2788274']
Glad you're having fun with it . I got outbid on the ehx. I will get the dittox2 when I have funds;)
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Unless you're gonna use the reverse/half speed effects, which to be honest are a bit gimmicky and something you'd maybe hardly ever use, I'd go for the normal ditto which for half the price.

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[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1433157703' post='2788294']
Unless you're gonna use the reverse/half speed effects, which to be honest are a bit gimmicky and something you'd maybe hardly ever use, I'd go for the normal ditto which for half the price.
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I found the X2's additional button an improvement over the single-button er, X1.

Now what I'd really like to see is is a "fade-out" option for the looped signal, or preferably an integral loop volume pedal.

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[quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1433157913' post='2788298']
I found the X2's additional button an improvement over the single-button er, X1.

Now what I'd really like to see is is a "fade-out" option for the looped signal, or preferably an integral loop volume pedal.
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Yes, that would be useful. I started off by bending down to turn the volume knob down to fade out. Now I use a 2nd volume pedal after the Ditto.

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[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1433158310' post='2788307']
Yes, that would be useful. I started off by bending down to turn the volume knob down to fade out. Now I use a 2nd volume pedal after the Ditto.
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You can almost get enough traction on the big central loop level knob to turn it with you foot given a grippy enough shoe, but it's not reliable. Doesn't your second volume pedal affect your non-loop (direct) signal as well?

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