ash2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 i recently bought an ashdown abm 410t (the older version with celestion speakers) from ebay [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160266425477&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...A:IT&ih=006[/url] however one of the speakers doesnt produce any sound, according to him there appears to be no damage to the speaker cone or magnet though. he says i need to get a celestion 8ohm 150watt speaker, but i cant seem to find any from uk retailers. would it have to be celestion? or could i use a different 10" speaker? anyone know where and what the best speaker to get would be? bit of a long shot but would it be possible to turn it into a 4ohm cab?would i have to replace all the speakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Is it connected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 the broken speaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Yeah, could be that simple as a loose wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 i hope so! il just have a quick look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 guy i bought it off says hes taken it out to check for bad connections, i dont really dare check myself, unless theres an easy step by step guide.i tapped each speaker and 3 made bass drum sound whilst the broken one didnt which he says means its just had it, probably due to it being 7 years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 [quote name='ash2008' post='252196' date='Jul 31 2008, 05:41 PM']bit of a long shot but would it be possible to turn it into a 4ohm cab?would i have to replace all the speakers?[/quote] Well, you could replace 2 of the speakers with speakers of 500 ohms resistance each and wire it in paralell to give you 3.93 ohms, but the two replacement speakers would only give you .79 watts each. Or you could replace all 4 speakers with 16 ohm ones, and wire it in paralell to give 4 ohms, or 4 x 1ohm speakers wired in series. Hope that helps Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash2008 Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 [quote name='Hamster' post='252299' date='Jul 31 2008, 08:03 PM']Well, you could replace 2 of the speakers with speakers of 500 ohms resistance each and wire it in paralell to give you 3.93 ohms, but the two replacement speakers would only give you .79 watts each.[/quote] that seems to be an easy and cheaper option. will it being 3.93 ohms cause a problem or is it close enough to 4ohms. the replacement speakers would only give me 0.79watts?isnt that pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOD2 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I think hamster was being a tad sarcastic there ..... There's no way you could turn your three 8 ohm speakers into a 4 ohm cab by buying only one additional speaker. You either need to replace the one 8 ohm speaker with another 8 ohm speaker to give you an 8 ohm cab or replace all of the speakers with 4 ohm ones to give you a 4 ohm cab. It doesn't have to be a Celestion speaker, as long as the power rating and ohms are the same it will work, but it is usually best to replace like with like where possible. But you need to open up the cab before you do anything - you'd have to open it up to replace the speaker so you might as well do it before. Always best to check what is actually inside before you buy anything, just in case you've been given duff information. I don't know this cab so i don't know if it will open at the back or the front. If there are screws on the back then undo these to remove the back and have a look inside. If there are no screws on the back then you will have to undo the front grille. Once removed the speakers will probably be loaded from the front - undo any screws around the duff speaker and pull it forwards out of the cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 MB1. Grill screws out! speakers out through the front.Theres only the speaker lead input plate on the back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 [quote name='BOD2' post='252750' date='Aug 1 2008, 01:56 PM']I think hamster was being a tad sarcastic there .....[/quote] Perhaps you should read the article about impedence on the basschat wiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash2008 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 thanks for the advice. i think ill just replace it with another 8ohm, keep it simple. ive had a look at the thread listing places to buy speakers but they all seem to be based in germany or usa. any reputable uk suppliers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRinser Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Hey, www.bluearan.co.uk are supposed to be good. I got a couple of eminence betas for my peavey 210 recently form jpgelectronics. they were good, only had 1 speaker in stock although the website said 4 in stock. sent the first one through quickly and the 2nd one came in sooner than they said it would. they kept me up to date with the situation and were polite and apologetic throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Blue Aran are very good. Appian Acoustics do Celestion and Frank is a good bloke to natter to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billynoband Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 (edited) Celestion green bass speaker BL10-100X 8ohm are only about £30. You can get them in various power ratings, unless you are using a huge amp that speaker would spread the load nicely. [url="http://watfordvalves.com"]http://watfordvalves.com[/url] Edited August 5, 2008 by billynoband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I wouldn't worry too much about it being 4 or 8ohm, the ABM410 is nice and loud either way Have you tried contacting Ashdown? They will sell you replacement parts directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 [quote name='ash2008' post='252196' date='Jul 31 2008, 05:41 PM']i recently bought an ashdown abm 410t (the older version with celestion speakers) from ebay [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160266425477&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...A:IT&ih=006[/url] however one of the speakers doesnt produce any sound, according to him there appears to be no damage to the speaker cone or magnet though. he says i need to get a celestion 8ohm 150watt speaker, but i cant seem to find any from uk retailers. would it have to be celestion? or could i use a different 10" speaker? anyone know where and what the best speaker to get would be? bit of a long shot but would it be possible to turn it into a 4ohm cab?would i have to replace all the speakers?[/quote]How much did you pay for the cab? You could sell the three good ones and put the money towards new speakers to put in to make it a 4 ohm, 1000w beast. 4x16 ohm Eminence @ 250 watts each, wired in paralell. That'll kick ass! Evil cab alert!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlea Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Just get a new 8 ohm 200W speaker from here: [url="http://www.lean-business.co.uk/eshop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=20"]http://www.lean-business.co.uk/eshop/index...ex&cPath=20[/url] Blue Aran may be good but they seem pretty expensive to me, and Watford Valves don't have the BL10-100X listed on their web page at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash2008 Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 [quote name='steve-soar' post='255811' date='Aug 5 2008, 10:01 PM']How much did you pay for the cab? You could sell the three good ones and put the money towards new speakers to put in to make it a 4 ohm, 1000w beast. 4x16 ohm Eminence @ 250 watts each, wired in paralell. That'll kick ass! Evil cab alert!!! [/quote] only payed £75! thats sounds like a good idea, ill have a look on the sites recommended for prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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