dangerboy Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 (edited) Not for sale but... This is my fake no 1 (no 2 is having some work done before it can appear here). This bass was originally badged 'CMI', but the previous owner scratched the TRC clear. I got our lovely friend the italian faker to make me a new one. This is a thru-neck fake, and presumably suffered from the 'cat can climb under the action' problem, so at some point someone has routed a hole to get the bridge lower, and then had to cut into the rear pickup surround so the atrings can run true. Lovely action now. It also came with a set of 4-a-side vintage Schaller tuners on (two mounted backwards!) so I've replaced them with better-looking things. This colour gets many, many comments. Edited June 27, 2008 by dangerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parker_muse Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Dangerboy, you have a beaut! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgie Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 [quote name='dangerboy' post='228039' date='Jun 27 2008, 02:20 PM']This colour gets many, many comments.[/quote] And so it should!! What a beautiful bass. Love it. If you're EVER selling it, let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_the_bassist Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 [quote name='Bassassin' post='224913' date='Jun 23 2008, 12:07 PM']I can do the graphic design bit, but I'm a bit stumped with the injection-moulding hardware! I'm trying to do waterslide transfers applied to the backs of perspex trcs, to emulate the screened 60s & early 70s trcs, but not having any luck with the decal printing so far. This is my latest effort with a paper insert, for my Matsubugger restoration: [attachment=9940:trc_with_insert.jpg] The idea's to apply the image, reversed-out, to the back of the cover, & then spray white over the back to seal the transfer & give a white background. So far my crap laser printer just keeps melting the paper, regardless of settings. Bit of a pain at a quid a sheet. Theoretically I should be able to do any design in Rickenbacker stylee - apart from ones that say "Rickenbacker". I do have to point out that fake Rick trcs on copies is frowned upon & will result in immediate & permanent expulsion from the Guild Of Rickenbuggery. J.[/quote] I absolutely agree, and will not commit in defrauding any subsequent buyers in that way! I do think that an authentic looking TRC reading Rackenbicker/Rockandroller/Blackendecker/ would set of a rickenbugger just nicely...much like the Bender/Faker transfers for P-bass wannabes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 [quote name='dangerboy' post='228039' date='Jun 27 2008, 02:20 PM']Not for sale but... This is my fake no 1 (no 2 is having some work done before it can appear here). This bass was originally badged 'CMI', but the previous owner scratched the TRC clear. I got our lovely friend the italian faker to make me a new one. This is a thru-neck fake, and presumably suffered from the 'cat can climb under the action' problem, so at some point someone has routed a hole to get the bridge lower, and then had to cut into the rear pickup surround so the atrings can run true. Lovely action now. It also came with a set of 4-a-side vintage Schaller tuners on (two mounted backwards!) so I've replaced them with better-looking things. This colour gets many, many comments.[/quote] Now that's very, very interesting. My first thought is it's a refin, with quite likely a bunch of real Rick parts. Does it have single or dual truss rods? Anyway DB - if you fancy taking loads of detailed, close-up pics, I might be able to tell you what it is. I can already tell you it's not a Rickenbacker, though... J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerboy Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 (edited) Which bits would help? I can already tell you that I changed the pickups, and I have a spare Rick bridge around here somewhere that might go onto it next time I feel like working on it... Single truss rod btw. Refin is a good theory, as it has flaked off in a few places, including around the neck joint (where I am led to understand these things always 'move' a touch). And here's a pic from the previous owner with the original TRC and Schallers. Edited June 27, 2008 by dangerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fillerbunny Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 [quote name='Bassassin' post='220913' date='Jun 17 2008, 10:20 PM']I'll start - this is the original Rickenbugger, queen of all the Fakers: It's a Kasuga, made in Japan probably early/mid 70s, exact model & age uncertain. It's a bolt-neck, and is incredibly heavy - which I haven't helped by putting a brass Hipshot on it. Additionally I've made a custom trc (the original was sadly long-gone) and Pickguardian - style pickup surround, and replaced the plain white scratchplate with the pearl.[/quote] That's one of the purrdiest things ever for sure. As for the make and model, [url="http://www.j-guitar.com/sp/sea/view_detail/s11630012.html"]this one on sale in Japan[/url] should look familiar! Almost as pretty as yours on the front - the pearl pickguard really does wonders - but neck thru! Not bad price either, about £180. I was GASsing for that one so badly, but alas, it seems to be on hold and while the store selling it actually as an email address they probably don't speak English since I didn't get a reply. It's been up there a while, probably sold long ago. [url="http://brochures.yokochou.com/guitar-and-amp/heerby/197x/en_index.html"]The only Heerby catalogue I've seen[/url] features the models RB-800 and RB-600 the latter of which looks like an "S" version with dot inlays, no binding and only mono jack. It was ¥20,000 cheaper though Pity the scans and probably original images aren't exactly hires, hard to make out details and decide if the 800 model is what you have. The text probably describes their fretboard material and neck construction, but my katakana's are a bit rusty As for the forum topic, I went ahead and bought the Fernandes I was asking about in the ebay 'Faker thread. Waiting for it to ship so here's a little something from the guy I'm getting it from: [attachment=10897:f.jpg] [attachment=10898:fheel.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 Heerby was a Kasuga brand - Japan only as far as I can tell, sometimes the Japlish translates it as Herby - which is even stranger! I'm guessing the catalogue you've seen is the one with the lunar landing scene on the front - seems to be the only one out there! Good to get a decent look at what appears to be the through-neck version of my bass. You've done the right thing getting that Fernandes, I think, it looks stunning! It even has "proper" knurled Rick-type strap buttons - never seen that on a copy before. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fillerbunny Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 (edited) Hmm, wonder which thread I should reply to... one is for pr0n and other for eBay sightings! Owell, this one will have to do.. [quote name='Bassassin' post='241568' date='Jul 17 2008, 12:41 PM']Heerby was a Kasuga brand - Japan only as far as I can tell, sometimes the Japlish translates it as Herby - which is even stranger! I'm guessing the catalogue you've seen is the one with the lunar landing scene on the front - seems to be the only one out there! Good to get a decent look at what appears to be the through-neck version of my bass. [/quote] Yeah, the lunar catalogue. It seems Kasuga also made guitars under the brand Herby, but I've never seen one - [url="http://www.music-trade.co.jp/otherhistory2.html"]which is no wonder according to again the same Japanese site I linked to in the other thread[/url]. But you never know with these things. [quote name='Bassassin' post='241568' date='Jul 17 2008, 12:41 PM']You've done the right thing getting that Fernandes, I think, it looks stunning! It even has "proper" knurled Rick-type strap buttons - never seen that on a copy before.[/quote] Yeah, I was stunned when I saw those buttons! It's a bit hard to see but I think the black one I linked to in the other thread has those too which would make them original. Although I don't see why anyone would want to replace existing buttons with those - they're pretty useless and will have to go in favor of some Schaller locks. I have no idea how anyone ever got their strap to stay on those minuscule things... I wonder if official RIC Schaller buttons fit this thing Wouldn't be surprised if they copied the screws as well I'm importing the bass from a Japanese store via a very friendly middleman - thanks Somara! - so after shipping and Finnish customs fees and VAT it won't be the cheapest 'Faker ever. I'll end up paying the equivalent of £400 for it, but a few years worth of GAS and active search for a good bugger puts that into perspective I think. I'm very happy so far. My concerns about the wood in the other thread was just my pessimism talking - with my luck I wouldn't have been surprised by a sudden early 90's adaptation of Chinese cardboard in favor of Japanese maple Besides, the uncommon AutumnGlo/Walnut type finish and glossy pics kinda reminded me of a Indie or Rockinbetter I noticed the interesting mix of early 4001 and 4003 features too, actually I think they only make it cooler! Give it character. From what I can gather the Fernandes/Burny guitars were made by several factories and generally don't have serial numbers. That sounds like fertile ground for some good rumors, and pretty much every factory of the era seems to be linked to Fernandes by one 'source' or another Dating and finding the origin of the bass would be cool, but I'll be happy if it just plays half as well as it looks. Oh, and to avoid posting to three different threads about the same basses and to contribute to the porn content - your Matsumocker project isn't the only one with discolored binding. I was just offered the bass in the attached pic for a very reasonable price but decided to go with the Fernandenbacker in the end. Looks identical to yours, complete with a fake RIC trc... [attachment=10908:matsumocker.jpg] Edited July 17, 2008 by fillerbunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 [quote name='fillerbunny' post='241776' date='Jul 17 2008, 02:22 PM']Oh, and to avoid posting to three different threads about the same basses and to contribute to the porn content - your Matsumocker project isn't the only one with discolored binding. I was just offered the bass in the attached pic for a very reasonable price but decided to go with the Fernandenbacker in the end. Looks identical to yours, complete with a fake RIC trc... [attachment=10908:matsumocker.jpg][/quote] That's the twin of mine - I've even got the toaster to go in the neck position now! Don't know if you've seen the thread about mine in the builds forum (still not put it together yet - lazy sod!) but mine was sold as a genuine Rickenbacker, to a friend of the guy I acquired it from, dressed up in real Rick parts & truss cover. Wish I had some way of knowing what brand it was originally sold as, but I've seen these under dozens of different names. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fillerbunny Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 [quote name='Bassassin' post='241977' date='Jul 17 2008, 07:49 PM']That's the twin of mine - I've even got the toaster to go in the neck position now! Don't know if you've seen the thread about mine in the builds forum (still not put it together yet - lazy sod!) but mine was sold as a genuine Rickenbacker, to a friend of the guy I acquired it from, dressed up in real Rick parts & truss cover. Wish I had some way of knowing what brand it was originally sold as, but I've seen these under dozens of different names.[/quote] Yes I saw your thread and immediately recognised the binding. I had wondered if it had been deliberately colored to match the body, but apparently - and fortunately - not. The Japanese guy selling it thinks it's an Aria Pro II but then I don't know if there is one unidentified Matsumoku instrument that isn't "probably an Aria". Mmm, I can't help thinking how cool those would look with a black scratchplate and trc, particularily since there's no white binding anymore that would clash with black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerboy Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 (edited) Before the new Ibanez arrives... Here's my black thru-neck faker. Bought sans TRC, so I have no idea what it is... I swapped the cracked white pickguard for a black one, and got hold of a matching TRC. [url="http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf2589fv0.jpg"][/url] [url="http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf2592cb7.jpg"][/url] Edited August 1, 2008 by dangerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegarcia Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Argh, you have awesome taste in basses Steve. Have always wanted an all black Rik. Mate of mine is trying to get me to trade the 450b for his black 4003 at the moment. So torn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookys6stringbass Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 [quote name='dangerboy' post='252836' date='Aug 1 2008, 02:31 PM']Before the new Ibanez arrives... Here's my black thru-neck faker. Bought sans TRC, so I have no idea what it is... I swapped the cracked white pickguard for a black one, and got hold of a matching TRC. [url="http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf2589fv0.jpg"][/url] [url="http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf2592cb7.jpg"][/url][/quote] That's perfect!!!! please please please sell it toooooo mmmmmeeeeeeee ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizbat Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 I presume you,ve all seen al,s fabulous 4003 build in the build threads?? defo worthy of a place in the rickenbuggery hall of fame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Heeley Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Very kind of you Wizbat, click on my siggy thingy to view my homemade effort, the Lemonbacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizbat Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 My new toy. I,ll add some more pics tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizbat Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I,m absolutly chuffed to bits to say that the twins are finished!!, and that today I woke up an endorsee of shuker basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean.Robinson Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 [quote name='wizbat' post='438083' date='Mar 18 2009, 10:21 AM']I,m absolutly chuffed to bits to say that the twins are finished!!, and that today I woke up an endorsee of shuker basses.[/quote] To say that was nice would be a very big understatement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_the_bassist Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 [quote name='wizbat' post='438083' date='Mar 18 2009, 10:21 AM']I,m absolutly chuffed to bits to say that the twins are finished!!, and that today I woke up an endorsee of shuker basses.[/quote] Jeezus, I think I'm In LOVE! If you don't get on with 'em for any reason, I can find 'em a good home!!!! Do you mind sayin how much they cost ya...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizbat Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I,m still stunned at being an endorsee,, I love the basses, jons a star and I,m walking round with a silly grin all the time!!. I don,t want to give away the cost in case the taxman is watching tho suffice to say I did get a discount for buying in bulk!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 Just - wow. I wouldn't know what to do with all them strings - but they're just stunning. Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 [quote name='Bassassin' post='439863' date='Mar 19 2009, 11:06 PM']Just - wow. I wouldn't know what to do with all them strings - but they're just stunning. Jon.[/quote] +1 Beautiful work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizbat Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 They are strung F# B E A D G so it,s quite easy to adjust from the five string basses I,ve been using til now. They have a wonderful Growl on the lower strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_the_bassist Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 epic, truly epic! It's got my juices goin, I NEED a low F#!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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