ambient Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I'm getting an NS NXT 5 string EUB is couple of weeks or so. Can anyone recommend a decent bow to go with it please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Bows are very personal things so best to try some out. Whats your budget? French or German? Is there enough room on a NS to bow? Just googled some pictures and the radius looks very flat and the space between body and fingerboard looks very small to et any real movement. Edited June 25, 2013 by fatgoogle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLoydElgar Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 carbon fibre over any cheap bow... and get some lessons.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 [quote name='fatgoogle' timestamp='1372168589' post='2122393'] Bows are very personal things so best to try some out. Whats your budget? French or German? Is there enough room on a NS to bow? Just googled some pictures and the radius looks very flat and the space between body and fingerboard looks very small to et any real movement. [/quote] Hi, Thanks for replying . That's the thing, I thought a bow was a bow ! It's only today when I started looking I see there're French ones, German etc. I really have no idea what to go for. I think people bow them. [attachment=137683:Echo-tony.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 [quote name='FLoydElgar' timestamp='1372175378' post='2122488'] carbon fibre over any cheap bow... and get some lessons.... [/quote] I was planning on lessons, there's a guy at uni who's predominantly a double bassist, I was gonna ask him. Any suggestions on the carbon fibre bow please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubassman Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Depends on your budget ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 [quote name='ubassman' timestamp='1372177664' post='2122537'] Depends on your budget ! [/quote] Hi, I don't want to pay a fortune for one, but I don't want to buy something and find that it's not very good . I'm a music student so I do get a discount from some places. I've never bowed a bass before, though I have played a double bass a bit in the past, I borrowed one for a couple of months a few years ago. I'm hoping to maybe get some gigs with the EUB, but the bow is mainly (at the moment) for recording purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 This question interests me too as I'm after a decent beginner bow for my nxt4. The ns designs website specifically states the fingerboard is shaped as per an acoustic upright and so is 'perfect' for bowing...I wouldn't have got one otherwise ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Youll need a few lessons anyway. My first real bow was a carbon fiber French bow from yita music on ebay. I think it was £120 and i still have it. Very good bow for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 [quote name='fatgoogle' timestamp='1372181347' post='2122585'] My first real bow was a carbon fiber French bow from yita music on ebay. I think it was £120 and i still have it. Very good bow for the price. [/quote] Fab, thanks. I'm guessing french is easier to pick up as the tension is done by the bow rather than by your fingers as in german? Is that the main difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 [quote name='fatgoogle' timestamp='1372181347' post='2122585'] Youll need a few lessons anyway. My first real bow was a carbon fiber French bow from yita music on ebay. I think it was £120 and i still have it. Very good bow for the price. [/quote] Hi, Thanks, I'll look into one of those. I didn't realise how expensive they could be !!!!!!!! Lessons are in hand, hopefully one of my tutors at college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Bluejay Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) I have an NXT 5 and a bow. To answer your question, it is perfectly possible to bow it, despite the bridge being pretty low by DB standards, as the body is rounded and thin. Personally, I find it a lot more fun to bow my Harley Benton EUB, which has a neck/fingerboard/bridge setup which is more similar to a real DB. But bowing can be done on any EUB, I'm sure. As for "a bow is a bow is a bow", that's not true, as our experts above have said. French and German are two different ways of gripping a bow, and each kind of grip requires a different type of bow. I'm happy with French, as I'm prone to Carpal Tunnel Syndrome in my left (bowing) wrist and the French grip seems less taxing from that point of view. Your mileage may vary. Fact - bowing is unfeasibly cool Edited June 25, 2013 by bluejay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 [quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1372181640' post='2122591'] Fact - bowing is unfeasibly cool [/quote] I was watching Tony Levin bowing his NS CR4 with Peter Gabriel, and totally agree, it is very cool . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 French £120 http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=150580744560 French £110? http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=140991211695 French £90? http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200403175627 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) ...and 690 or 660mm? Pros / cons? Edited June 25, 2013 by andydye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basstroker Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Hi! - I play a NS-Design CR5M and it's more easy to bow than most 5-string carved double basses I've ever played. And I also use a Yita Music Top Model A German bow. But this bow is too "soft", it's not a professional bow. I also have a Gedo German 4/4 bow and this is an exceptional bow for 149,--€. But mine has a weight of 126g and is very stiff, the newer ones seem to have 143g and seem to be not so good. So every bow, every EUB/double bass is different and every player ist different. Maybe You can ask Thomann to send You some bows for testing. - Best, Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philparker Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I use a Yita Music Pernambuco French bow, which was about £250 and is excellent value for money. I think I would have to stretch to the £500 - £2k for a second-hand bow to get better quality. They're a good company to deal with as well. Mine arrived with a crack even though it was very well packaged; when I emailed them they couldn't understand how it happened when the packaging wasn't damaged. However, they didn't quibble - they sent me a replacement and refunded me the postage to return the old ebony frog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLoydElgar Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Carbon Fibre over cheap "pernambuco"... No offence it's just not going to work! if you're going to spend £100+ then carbon all da waheyyyy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Top-Model-A-Carbon-Fiber-Double-Bass-Bow-French-/150580744560?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instruments&hash=item230f4fd170"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Top-Model-A-Carbon-Fiber-Double-Bass-Bow-French-/150580744560?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instruments&hash=item230f4fd170[/url] This the bow i have. For the money you really cant get a wood bow to beat it for less then 500-600. Get it re-haired when it arrives and you'll be sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 [quote name='fatgoogle' timestamp='1372427120' post='2125645'] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Top-Model-A-Carbon-Fiber-Double-Bass-Bow-French-/150580744560?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instruments&hash=item230f4fd170"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item230f4fd170[/url] This the bow i have. For the money you really cant get a wood bow to beat it for less then 500-600. Get it re-haired when it arrives and you'll be sorted. [/quote] Awesome, thanks buddy! I guess the next question would be what rosin would you recommend for a bowing novice, and about how much should a rehair be (roughly)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I pay €60 for silver stallion Mongolian horse hair but it depends on who you can find to do it. Im currently using pops which IMO is really good for orchestral stuff and not so good for solo stuff. Youll have to try out a lot of different rosins over time to find your favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatback Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 [quote name='fatgoogle' timestamp='1372427120' post='2125645'] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Top-Model-A-Carbon-Fiber-Double-Bass-Bow-French-/150580744560?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instruments&hash=item230f4fd170"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item230f4fd170[/url] This the bow i have. For the money you really cant get a wood bow to beat it for less then 500-600. Get it re-haired when it arrives and you'll be sorted. [/quote] Who does the rehair for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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