risingson Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Not contributed to this at all yet. I'm yet to come across a bass that I truly hate or can't get along with in at least some way. There are a number of basses I can't stand the look of or that play like total dogs, but appearances can be deceiving and I've learnt better than to judge a book by its cover... I tried a very old Hofner Clubman at a store in Switzerland last week that had strings a good inch off of the neck due to a nasty bowing problem, but it sounded out of this world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='StephenFerguson' timestamp='1351265900' post='1849497'] You did when you said "as for basses I don't like, anything fender" that may lead us to feel you have a somewhat frosty opinion on old fender [/quote] Stephen. Sorry. I didn't realise I said that. I missed out a rather important word "non-" I meant to say non-Fender. I'll go back and correct that then. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 i think aerodynes sound great. although i generally don't agree with basswood bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1351271567' post='1849594'] i think aerodynes sound great. although i generally don't agree with basswood bodies. [/quote] What have they done to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFerguson Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Ahhh sound, I got a tad flummoxed by that, I do think ricks are beautiful, just awful to play and i agree that copies are lazy and that goes to sado jazz basses aswell but do you ever get the feeling that fender don't go after sadski, jaydees etc because they are confident in there own product? I feel that rick know its aesthetics that sell there basses and fear a well made copy that may sound better, I mean it wouldn't be hard! Look at the cheyene, it tried to address the rick issues and didn't sell......because it was made by rick and sounded sh*te, $2000 grand for a rick that doesn't look much like a rick and no one bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeSuisSkeleton Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='jezzaboy' timestamp='1351108431' post='1847543'] Epiphone EBO and EB3. I have never played an old Gibson variant but these Epi`s are truly horrid. [/quote] Don't know which it was. Wasn't aware they made Korean ones! It was rotten though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1351271567' post='1849594'] i think aerodynes sound great. although i generally don't agree with basswood bodies. [/quote] I think the main problem with Aerodynes, IMO, is that they're pig ugly Speaking of pig ugly: I really can't abide the marriage of heated towel rail and guitar. Edited October 26, 2012 by Wil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikanHannille Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Rickenbacker - hate the looks... hate the sound.. though I haven't played one yet.. but that's because I hate the looks and the sound.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1351273281' post='1849620'] What have they done to you? [/quote] there are far better materials to build a guitar from before basswood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 What's so bad? Does it fall apart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Blackbird88' timestamp='1350911021' post='1844918'] Fenders, simply for the lack of originality, in all the time P and J basses have existed the body design has never really changed much, and they never seem to try anything new. Probably why I like the Blacktop Jazz, there's a bit of creativity there, deviating from the norm and taking a risk. Thunderbirds. I really liked them until I tried one, and took a sharp swing in the other direction. Like a baseball bat with a lead weight at both ends, unbalanced, uncomfortable and awkward. And far too heavy to play sitting down. Wasn't sure whether to play it or fight with it. BC Rich, with the exception of the mockingbird, they're trying way too hard to look cool. And failing. Stingrays with the single MM pickup in the bridge position, they look unbalanced. I can't yet find it in me to hate Rick's, I like the look too much, but then I've never played one. [/quote]First off, "Fenders, simply for the lack of originality". Ok. The Fender company designed the DNA and the shape and the hardware and the technology for the first affordable, playable, attractive and recordable electric bass guitar. That is why when you read the credits on the back of albums....CD'S.....you will see in the early days, bassists were credited with playing "The Fender Bass". You seem to think that an original innovator has to reinvent their original timeless idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 'Tis true, they tried a different Mini (the Clubman) and went back to the original. The Citroen Dyane was to replace the 2CV but didn't last. Classic designs are timeless, consider the Eames office chairs, Dualit toasters, Crombie coats, even the old style Vespa scooter has reappeared. The original Fender designs have and will continue to live beyond their 'replacements'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumble Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1351242746' post='1849065'] Take that, eyeballs! Ha! <snip> Seriously though, you're entitled to your opinion. Also, I don't live far from the harbour if you want to challenge your perceptions [/quote] Oh dear, I think I may have to lie down, that is SERIOUS bass porn ! Given me a bloody semi ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1351278249' post='1849713'] What's so bad? Does it fall apart? [/quote] no, stop being ridiculous, i just said i don't normally agree with it. You are trying to start an argument over nothing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1351276699' post='1849685'] there are far better materials to build a guitar from before basswood. [/quote] depending on the design brief... the bmw guys who designed the bongo went for basswood. Ok they also designed the bongo so possibly that doesn't say anything - but just that everything is chosen for a reason. the "fender woods" of alder and maple I'm guessing were chosen to use partly as they were cheap for Leo to get his hands on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1351293975' post='1849920'] depending on the design brief... the bmw guys who designed the bongo went for basswood. Ok they also designed the bongo so possibly that doesn't say anything - but just that everything is chosen for a reason. the "fender woods" of alder and maple I'm guessing were chosen to use partly as they were cheap for Leo to get his hands on. [/quote] I wouldn't deny that, but i would even make a bass from alder before basswood. Basswood tends to have a very dense, non-projecting sort of quality, which makes a very dense tone. I suspect it hasn't done it so much in the case of the aerodyne because it has a very slim body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Anything above and beyond a bolt standard P bass is just for boy racers really isnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 [quote name='lojo' timestamp='1351316184' post='1849977'] Anything above and beyond a bolt standard P bass is just for boy racers really isnt it [/quote] My thoughts exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnalogBomb Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I've been thinking about this topic (great thread by the way) for a while. Now I love playing bass - I play guitar too, but bass just does it for me. this probably has something to do with the fact that the gear is so much cooler - cool amps, powerful amps, beautiful guitars and chicks dig bass players (so I'm told). But something that really gets me down is that for all of the lovely gear out there, there are some real abominations. For example, I love Fender/Squier basses, I just love the shape (Jazz in particular and the Jaguar's), I love the classic finish and more to the point, I love the way they sound. Playing my jazz, I can dial up a warm, clunky tone whenever, wherever. I also love the fact the bodies are big too - mainly because, being a gentleman of a more robust frame, they 1) hide my beer belly and 2) don't make me look like I'm playing a bronco or bass designed for a child! Which leads me on to my next point: I recently visited a local music retailer (which shall remain nameless, but is an anagram of M.P.T) and the guy in the shop was nice and seemed to know his stuff. The problem was he kept asking me to try out things like (and here is where I finally list my point) Ibanez, I think it was an SR range in lavender, I mean lavender, come on, I'm not buying for my nan; and it just screamed 80's hair metal and was a tiny body. I tried Yamaha's same problem and the sound was pretty naff too. I also have a severe dislike for anything too metally - BC Rich, Dean, Early 80's stock bodies..... and really high end basses often just stink of over attention! Those Jerzy Dorzd jobs are simply horrid. I mean, you can't fault the craftsmanship that goes into something like that, but I mean, would you play one, in your local? Modulus the same, Zon, I could go on. Anyway - I like Fender and don't like small basses or basses that look like they belong in a gallery or expensive furniture shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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