chriswilliams666 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) [b]History...blah, blah, blah.[/b] I've been working with and promoting Eternal Guitars for a short while now, and I've finally commisioned myself a bass. Also the first in the Eternal Roster. Dave (Owner/Sole Builder) has made and sold around 25 guitars in the past year all around the £1500-£1600 mark up and down the country. Although only recently trading as Eternal Guitars, Dave has been a luthier and repairer since the late 80s and secured and apprenticeship down Denmark Street. He now focuses on Eternal Guitars, and has a regular slot writing for Guitar and Bass Magazine. Being in the music retail industry I've seen (and Sold!) many Fenders and relic'd guitars, however Eternal Guitars are something else. I didn't need to think twice about getting one, once I decided what I wanted. If anyone is interested. The Eternal website is [url="http://www.eternal-guitars.com"]www.eternal-guitars.com[/url] or on [url="http://www.facebook.com/EternalGuitars"]Facebook[/url] - I'm reliably informed theres a new website on the way, following some exciting news. [b]Plan[/b] As with most people who commision guitars, I wanted THE bass, of all basses. Everything has to be what I want, no compromise. This bass will combine all my favourite aspects of my basses i've had in the past. It has to be lightweight and balanced. I want to be able to use this bass as much as possible, on the long and short gigs for various styles of music (but mainly for my Duff-esque, low slung, pick plucking punk style) [b]Facts[/b][list] [*]I LOVE the mixed PJ sound I get from my Duff Basses, and my Aerodyne. [*]I rarely use the selector switch so thats not needed. [*]I miss my Laklands neck, so it has to be that shape and style with the blocks and binding. [*]I use a wireless and change basses quite a lot in shows so i need a jack socket (same as all my others) on the side, unlike most P-Basses. [/list] [b]Spec[/b] [list] [*]PJ Custom [*]P-Type Body with J-Rout in Bridge [*]Olympic White OVER 3-Tone Sunburst [*]Nitro Cellulose Finish [*]Light Relic [*]C-Shape Neck [*]Medium Jumbo Frets [*]Fretboard Pearloid Blocks [*]White Neck Binding [*]9.5" Radius [*]Rosewood Fingerboard [*]34" Scale Length [*]Phillips Heel Truss Rod Adjustment [*]Chrome Neckplate [*]Seymour Duncan STK-J2b Bridge Pickup [*]Fender 57/62 Original P-Bass Pickup [*]Volume, Volume, Tone Controls [*]Gotoh GEB-201 Chrome Bridge [*]Hand Cut Bone Nut [*]Mint Pickguard [*]Gotoh GB11 Chrome Machine Heads [*]Eternal Aged Knurled Chrome Knobs [*]Side Mount Jack Socket [*]Flush-Mount Dunlop Strap Locks [/list] Will add more exciting pics as I get them. Hopefully not phone pics... Before I decided on the J Pickup... [attachment=90365:PJbass.JPG] After the decision was made, and sealer applied. Edited October 13, 2011 by chriswilliams666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Lovely spec! I'm looking forward to seeing this one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 [b]Update[/b] Neck has started to be tinted, and aged. Body has socket and truss rod rout. Sunburst finish applied before the White overspray, such a shame but I really dont like sunburst guitars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Y'see, I'd leave it 'burst. I have visions of this.... Yum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Annoyingly I've never seen that bass EVER. It's seriously close. I promised myself I'd never play a Sunburst bass, although I LOVE the White OVER Sunburst. I've got a Black plate too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 More updates... The White has been applied! Going...[attachment=90557:ET Bass white over SB1.JPG] Going...[attachment=90558:ET Bass White over SB2.JPG]Going...[attachment=90559:ET Bass White over SB3.JPG] Gone![attachment=90560:ETbassWHITE.JPG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Excuse my ignorance, but what is the significance of the white over sunburst aspect of this? That the white nitro finish will thin/peel/whatever to expose the sunburst beneath? P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 The finish mimics the look of a factory ‘refinished’ guitar. With the usual wear and tear of playing, this solid colour top coat would begin to fade or rub off revealing the original finish beneath and this is the look we’re going to recreate with this bass. It was common in the ‘60s for a stock sunburst finished guitar to be sprayed over in a solid colour - usually in the factory during production if a custom colour order came in. If there were finished sunburst bodies ready to go (the stock colour of the time) then it was simpler and faster to grab one off the rack and spray straight over the sealed sunburst finish than to start from scratch. Instruments would also be returned to the factory for a refin in a different colour after purchase and of course many were refinished later in the guitars life after many years of use – usually before anyone realised the potential future value would be affected. Subsequently, many vintage guitars that are dismissed as ‘refinished’ and devalued were actually colour coated before they ever left the factory so are in fact as original as any sunburst models. To see a T-Type with a similar finish, click here http://www.eternal-guitars.com/?page_id=33 and scroll down the page… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Ok that does look rather swish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1317718597' post='1393549'] Ok that does look rather swish [/quote] Many thanks! Should have an update soon! Hope you'll be sticking around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Me? I'm a basschat lifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky72 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Nice Chris... that is going to look sweet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Is it going to have a Fender logo? Do eternal guitars add do Fender logo's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1317809245' post='1394737'] Me? I'm a basschat lifer [/quote] Good Good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Clarky72' timestamp='1317890255' post='1395734'] Nice Chris... that is going to look sweet... [/quote] Thanks dude, I think so too! You'll be next ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='Toasted' timestamp='1317917652' post='1396250'] Is it going to have a Fender logo? Do eternal guitars add do Fender logo's? [/quote] I don't want a fender logo on mine, and Eternal have their own logo with a familier style. Although I'm sure the headstock could be left empty on the front, and you could obtain a Fender logo yourself and add one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry norton Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='chriswilliams666' timestamp='1317712778' post='1393463'] The finish mimics the look of a factory ‘refinished’ guitar. With the usual wear and tear of playing, this solid colour top coat would begin to fade or rub off revealing the original finish beneath and this is the look we’re going to recreate with this bass. It was common in the ‘60s for a stock sunburst finished guitar to be sprayed over in a solid colour - usually in the factory during production if a custom colour order came in. If there were finished sunburst bodies ready to go (the stock colour of the time) then it was simpler and faster to grab one off the rack and spray straight over the sealed sunburst finish than to start from scratch. Instruments would also be returned to the factory for a refin in a different colour after purchase and of course many were refinished later in the guitars life after many years of use – usually before anyone realised the potential future value would be affected. Subsequently, many vintage guitars that are dismissed as ‘refinished’ and devalued were actually colour coated before they ever left the factory so are in fact as original as any sunburst models. To see a T-Type with a similar finish, click here [url="http://www.eternal-guitars.com/?page_id=33"]http://www.eternal-g...com/?page_id=33[/url] and scroll down the page… [/quote] Yeah, from what I've read the custom finishes were often sprayed over bursts that didn't work out quite right. Apparently this was one of Leo's ideas to keep the costs down - a rejected sunburst has had all the prep work done on it so instead of sanding it right back and starting again, why not just spray another colour over the top? Especially sweet when someone's paying extra for a custom colour. So, I'm afraid your reliced P won't look as authentic as you thought it would, the sunburst underneath is just too well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 I'll take that as a compliment! More pics due tomorrow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 New Pics... Pre-Relic![attachment=90899:Head.JPG][attachment=90904:White finish with sp.JPG][attachment=90901:White finish.JPG][attachment=90903:White finish3.JPG][attachment=90902:White finish2.JPG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieD_FenderP2009 Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) you've made 3 mistakes with this 1: I would of put a Badass II on it instead of the bridge you've chosen 2: I would of had the jack input mounted on the pickguard 3: I wouldn't of had a tone control so it would of just been 2 volumes and the jack input on the plate Apart from that, I want it haha *edit* make that 4, NO RELICING! Leave it as it is. It's so gorgeous like it is. Edited October 8, 2011 by StevieD_FenderP2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 [quote name='StevieD_FenderP2009' timestamp='1318105111' post='1398223'] you've made 3 mistakes with this 1: I would of put a Badass II on it instead of the bridge you've chosen 2: I would of had the jack input mounted on the pickguard 3: I wouldn't of had a tone control so it would of just been 2 volumes and the jack input on the plate Apart from that, I want it haha *edit* make that 4, NO RELICING! Leave it as it is. It's so gorgeous like it is. [/quote] Dont worry the relic work isn't gonna be a lot. I've asked for a light ageing. Although there will be a bit of wear on the contour to show the sunburst. To follow up on your other points... 1. I wanted a bridge that looked a bit more traditional then a BadAss, plus they cost the earth! haha 2. I have a wireless pack for my rig with a right angled jack. I just find that gets in the way. All my other basses have it on the side, so made sense. 3. I don't actually use the Tone Control, however I have a TBX in my other PJ basses. This bass will probably be used for showcasing and a review so we thought the tone control would be more commercial for now, however I may change it for a TBX later on. If you want one, feel free to send me or [email protected] your custom spec and we'll price it up for you ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I like the relicing but I love it as is. Sad panda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 Update, Its almost finished. I've changed the scratchplate out for a mint one. We are awaiting the logo and a few minor changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry norton Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Looking really nice. I'm pleased to see no fake Fender logos too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Not looking too shabby (or is it... confusing!) I was expecting a little more of the burst to be showing or will that now happen naturally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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