Mog Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 For Speakers and power amps I'd go with something like Peavey. Especially if ye are going to be playing outdoor gigs. Solid and reliable. Desk wise I usually go with Mackie. Wattage wise I wouldnt go under 1.5k. If transport allows and your desk does 2x2ohm these are the mutts nuts [url="http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/general/Product.aspx?PId=91&MId=3"]http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/general/Prod...Id=91&MId=3[/url] just add one or two tops or top/mids if desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 [quote name='Mog' post='1235319' date='May 18 2011, 10:15 AM']For Speakers and power amps I'd go with something like Peavey. Especially if ye are going to be playing outdoor gigs. Solid and reliable. Desk wise I usually go with Mackie. Wattage wise I wouldnt go under 1.5k. If transport allows and your desk does 2x2ohm these are the mutts nuts [url="http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/general/Product.aspx?PId=91&MId=3"]http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/general/Prod...Id=91&MId=3[/url] just add one or two tops or top/mids if desired.[/quote] Desk and amps are sorted. We are looking at a good deal this weekend so will let you know if we get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 We demo our new..for us..P.A tonight. I am hoping for very good things from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 So what did you settle on in the end? [quote name='JTUK' post='1249221' date='May 29 2011, 02:32 PM']We demo our new..for us..P.A tonight. I am hoping for very good things from it.[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 Martin Audio ICT500 with controller... and we will add a sub/subs as and when Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I,m looking at getting a Pa for my band I want to be able to get a decent Drum sound in an average pub at the moment I,m looking at getting a Peavey XR1212 with Subs & tops 600w per side ,any comments welcome . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 [quote name='Kevin Dean' post='1257124' date='Jun 5 2011, 09:28 AM']I,m looking at getting a Pa for my band I want to be able to get a decent Drum sound in an average pub at the moment I,m looking at getting a Peavey XR1212 with Subs & tops 600w per side ,any comments welcome .[/quote] I don't know the stuff...but the drum sound is all about good sound for the kit in the first place. If it sounds not great acoustically...you'll struggle..and take a load of time ..getting a useable sound at all. I'd start with working on the kick drum and then add an OH at some point...but it really depends on how hard the guy hits the kit and whether it is engr'd all the time. If not..then it is crucial to get the level and stick with it... which is beyond or so many who inisist on volume creep throughout the gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 [quote name='JTUK' post='1257155' date='Jun 5 2011, 10:11 AM']I don't know the stuff...but the drum sound is all about good sound for the kit in the first place. If it sounds not great acoustically...you'll struggle..and take a load of time ..getting a useable sound at all. I'd start with working on the kick drum and then add an OH at some point...but it really depends on how hard the guy hits the kit and whether it is engr'd all the time. If not..then it is crucial to get the level and stick with it... which is beyond or so many who inisist on volume creep throughout the gig.[/quote] The kit sounds great its just that most pub bands I see are to loud & are paying no attention to the drums its just loud . My friends band get a great sound but he owns a PA hire company & his rig is about £10k worth of gear & he does admit its because he can there not to loud but when there doing stuff like the Clash the drums have to be up there .My budget is around £2k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 The drums have to be hit constantly... unless you have an engr attending to the levels all the time..ie, wehn the drum and the track goes a bit wild..he may blew the levels if nobody is attending them... and that will blow the band sound as it will likely be over-driven. For 2k..?? best bet is e-bay or.. There was a Martin rig here, F8 and F12 subs...not sure about the amps [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=72933&hl=martin+audio"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...hl=martin+audio[/url] this would blow a lot of P.A's out of the water, IMO, if you can handle it. The F8's could be used for acoustic duo's on their own otherwise for a band you'll need the whole rig..no controller tho. I'd want to see and hear this fired up. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=136616"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=136616[/url] or [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=137767"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=137767[/url] and you still some money for mix etc.. or [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=130524"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=130524[/url] your mate might have an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceH Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 [quote name='JTUK' post='1257638' date='Jun 5 2011, 07:20 PM']The drums have to be hit constantly... unless you have an engr attending to the levels all the time..ie, wehn the drum and the track goes a bit wild..he may blew the levels if nobody is attending them... and that will blow the band sound as it will likely be over-driven.[/quote] Not if you are after that tight,. compressed drum sound. If you use compressors on inserts with a high ratio, thresholded so they come on quite low you can just 'set and forget' - the harder he hits the funkier it sounds but it doesn't get any louder through the PA. You need to know what you're doing though, with the comps, the mics and the drums themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 We might have to go this route as our drummer uses a lot of these dynamics..plus he is just so used to hitting hard if without engr'd FOH. I think this invites problems..as the dynamic is so large, IMO. It is strange as he does a lot of work with FOH.....so I would have thought someone would have told him to keep it more consistant. I not talking about quite track/loud track, I am talking about playing very hard to get past a noisy unsupported band level that creeps up in volume throughout the gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankai Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 A lot of people use OHs on their drums, but I highly recommend not doing this unless you're playing above 600 people. They add a lot of noise to signal and especially if you're using a small PA will do more harm than good! Try using just a hi-hat and ride mic instead. The less things you add to your PA the better, unless of course if you're playing massive rock/metal gigs then it's understandable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 +1 on the overheads, unless you`re playing soft jazz or folk and want that tinsel don`t bother. Also a tentative yes on the compressed kit. I love routing the whole kit to a stereo subgroup and compressing it a little, gives a nice snap and feels tighter and more produced. But, you need to have a bloody good play with it and make sure you don`t overdo it and choke the life out of his dynamics. A little less than you think is always the best choice. You need the same mics and gain/eq input settings if you want to plug and play too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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