Gunsfreddy2003 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Oh yes!!!! [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1175487' date='Mar 25 2011, 12:55 AM']Just looked now, £1270 still looks good to me but just shows what a good deal the buyer of the 77' natural one with the oh so rare and cool teardrop case got for £130 more! I think there was a few hundred pound more in that one but the seller was gassing for a king bass that was also for sale.[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Gunsfreddy2003' post='1176843' date='Mar 26 2011, 07:10 AM']Oh yes!!!![/quote] Does your signature need updating mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsfreddy2003 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Yes! [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1176897' date='Mar 26 2011, 08:33 AM']Does your signature need updating mate [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Gunsfreddy2003' post='1176898' date='Mar 26 2011, 08:35 AM']Yes![/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1176395' date='Mar 25 2011, 07:15 PM']Yes it is nice, I actually wanted a black pre EB then when I found my natural one it was just too good to miss out on condition wise, Since then I have found natural to look more right for pre EB's, Black and RW for 90's Rays and any colour for 5's for me. Although my teal is very nice and the neck has aged to a mellow colour now. The only problems with that black 79 is the mute kit missing and for that money I would want at least a period case or better still an MM teardrop one.[/quote] Will you guys pack it in, you're giving me pre-eb GAS even tho I'm a die-hard EBMM guy. Good job I'm skint and relatively gig less at present Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='martthebass' post='1177002' date='Mar 26 2011, 10:37 AM']Will you guys pack it in, you're giving me pre-eb GAS even tho I'm a die-hard EBMM guy. Good job I'm skint and relatively gig less at present [/quote] Realistically whats the chances of me not banging on about pre EB Rays? Hows my future 30th I hope your looking after it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1177079' date='Mar 26 2011, 11:49 AM']Realistically whats the chances of me not banging on about pre EB Rays? Hows my future 30th I hope your looking after it for me [/quote] Freshly polished and in it's case at the bottom of the bed. Sad or what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh2 Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Seems reasonable... I got 1300 for my 78. cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='martthebass' post='1177087' date='Mar 26 2011, 11:54 AM']Freshly polished and in it's case at the bottom of the bed. Sad or what [/quote] I read that the first time and I thought you said shed! Good work keep it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 Im concidering starting an MM porn thread rather than just the one we have including EBMM, Does that seam elitest? Im clearly not as I have 2 EBMM's the 5 being bought after the pre EB. It would be nice to have a dedicated pre EB thread including the Sabres too I guess. What do you pre EB fans think? At the moment there appears to be an underground network of owners who know who each other are where as Im obviously more out there in the forum as it were it would be nice to have us all in one place and see who has got what etc but would it just be me and Mark (Gunsfreddy) on there and everyone else keeping quiet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 The black 79 £1895 has sold now on Ebay but not sure on the price as it must of been a best offer or sold through the shop. Anyone here going to own up to it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matski Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='MattM' post='1175652' date='Mar 25 2011, 10:56 AM']Wee bitty on the rich side for my tastes[/quote] That guy's basses are always a little bit on the rich side... As for having a specialized Pre-EB MM porn thread - I'd post my 2 on there. But they are BOTH black though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='matski' post='1177502' date='Mar 26 2011, 06:38 PM']That guy's basses are always a little bit on the rich side... As for having a specialized Pre-EB MM porn thread - I'd post my 2 on there. But they are BOTH black though... [/quote] Cool I will get one started soon then and there's nothing wrong with having 2 black ones that's just twice as good as having one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1177466' date='Mar 26 2011, 07:10 PM']The black 79 £1895 has sold now on Ebay but not sure on the price as it must of been a best offer or sold through the shop. Anyone here going to own up to it then? [/quote] Interestingly, now back on at a lower £1795.... [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-BLACK-1983-/180645146945?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a0f4a3141"]PreEB Black 'Ray[/url] Still a wee bit rich for my tastes, £1500-ish would be on the money, damn me thinking that natural one with the teardrop case would run its natural course..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi 2 kenobi Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1177548' date='Mar 26 2011, 08:32 PM']Cool I will get one started soon then and there's nothing wrong with having 2 black ones that's just twice as good as having one [/quote] I will add my '78 natural when you're ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 Looks like a worthy thread then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) [quote name='MattM' post='1179651' date='Mar 28 2011, 03:51 PM']Interestingly, now back on at a lower £1795.... [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-BLACK-1983-/180645146945?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a0f4a3141"]PreEB Black 'Ray[/url] Still a wee bit rich for my tastes, £1500-ish would be on the money, damn me thinking that natural one with the teardrop case would run its natural course..... [/quote] Its[b] not the same one [/b]the last one was 79' this is an 83 although Im just looking at something before I agree with him...... [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-BLACK-1983-/180645146945?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a0f4a3141"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSIC...=item2a0f4a3141[/url] [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180644289011&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT[/url] Yes that 77' went quite quick, You have got to strike while the iron is hot when deals like that come up, Bargain Edited March 28, 2011 by stingrayPete1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 The age for the pre EB 83 is a bit odd really the serial puts it to about 79-80 but I guess the bridge could of been from the bottom of the pile, 83 with a 3 bolt plate cant be right though surely?, It could be a bitsa IMO. Also it says a mute is missing, I can see all four thumb screws but not the springs which isnt too bad as they can be got along with the pads for £25 , Im not sure what he meens? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-BLACK-1983-/180645146945?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a0f4a3141"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSIC...=item2a0f4a3141[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsfreddy2003 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Great idea Pete, hey if it is just you and me at least we will be having fun indulging in all things Stingray! [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1177101' date='Mar 26 2011, 12:03 PM']Im concidering starting an MM porn thread rather than just the one we have including EBMM, Does that seam elitest? Im clearly not as I have 2 EBMM's the 5 being bought after the pre EB. It would be nice to have a dedicated pre EB thread including the Sabres too I guess. What do you pre EB fans think? At the moment there appears to be an underground network of owners who know who each other are where as Im obviously more out there in the forum as it were it would be nice to have us all in one place and see who has got what etc but would it just be me and Mark (Gunsfreddy) on there and everyone else keeping quiet? [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1179866' date='Mar 28 2011, 06:46 PM']The age for the pre EB 83 is a bit odd really the serial puts it to about 79-80 but I guess the bridge could of been from the bottom of the pile, 83 with a 3 bolt plate cant be right though surely?, It could be a bitsa IMO. Also it says a mute is missing, I can see all four thumb screws but not the springs which isnt too bad as they can be got along with the pads for £25 , Im not sure what he meens? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-BLACK-1983-/180645146945?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a0f4a3141"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSIC...=item2a0f4a3141[/url][/quote] Yep the serial is Mar 1979. I'm gonna vote bitsa. Wonder why the neck date isn't visible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 [quote name='Ou7shined' post='1179899' date='Mar 28 2011, 07:20 PM']Yep the serial is Mar 1979. I'm gonna vote bitsa. Wonder why the neck date isn't visible?[/quote] No neck date is quite common, mine hasn't got one (go see the all new pre EB porn thread!) but it certainly does appear odd for a body dated that late to have a 3 bolt neck more than anything else as the bridge may of been a leftover. Parts bin final blowout before EB took over maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 I have had a message back about the 76' without its plate on. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330545485108&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT[/url] He still didnt answer my question about what colour the plate is thats meant to be included though. He has added a load of pics but a lot of them are blurred! He did give me an indication of what he wants (or his mate wants) but I cant make my mind up if its good or not so Im keeping quiet about for now you can always ask the same if you like, you might even get a better figure? [b]Pro's-[/b] 76' quite rare and mostly all there. [b]Cons-[/b] No epoxy preamp or even pre EB preamp for that matter. Drilled out body for jack socket. Still not seen the pick guard or its condition. Original knobs missing. Thumb turns and springs missing. Still not sure on this one........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 [b]THE PRE EB PORN THREAD IS UP AND RUNNING!!!![/b] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=129347"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=129347[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matski Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1179866' date='Mar 28 2011, 05:46 PM']The age for the pre EB 83 is a bit odd really the serial puts it to about 79-80 but I guess the bridge could of been from the bottom of the pile, 83 with a 3 bolt plate cant be right though surely?, It could be a bitsa IMO. Also it says a mute is missing, I can see all four thumb screws but not the springs which isnt too bad as they can be got along with the pads for £25 , Im not sure what he meens? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSICMAN-STINGRAY-BLACK-1983-/180645146945?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a0f4a3141"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-ERNIE-BALL-MUSIC...=item2a0f4a3141[/url][/quote] Something's not right somewhere.... My Cutlass is definitely from '83 as it has date stamps both on the neck and in the pocket from Sept '83 - but it has a 4 bolt neck, and the bridge is different as it's not the through-the-body type. My StingRay is harder to date as it has no date stamps at all. I remember that years ago (probably around 1987 - before the days of the Internet) I contacted Strings & Things to see if they could help me to date it and they reckoned it could have been made anywhere between 1979 - 1981. This was basely purely on the serial number. I do remember them telling me that the serial numbers were renowned for being all over the place though. Check out the following serial numbers from Gav Townsend's excellent www.musicmanbass.org website, they are not exactly in chronological order: 1980 > '83 > '79? > '81 > '83 > '79! B021601..1980. Black with Maple. 4 bolt. Top load bridge. Tilted headstock logo. B021613..Neck and Body Sep 1980. White with Maple. B021621..Body 2 Feb 1983. Topl load bridge. Hollow saddles. Bridge now fitted to a 1978 White refin Bass. B021635..Owner says 1979 (?). Black with Maple. Black pg. Top load bridge. 4 bolt neck. B021642..Volume pot dated 8th week of 1981 ("1378108"). Other two pots dated 2nd week of 1979 ("1377902"). Pre-amp has protection resistor in White lead to jack ( a 1982 factory upgrade). B021656..Described as 1983. Sunburst with Maple. Black pg. 4 Bolt neck. Top load bridge. Tilting headstock logo. B021684..Neck date 21 Mar 1979. "Powder Blue" with Maple. No pg. Black PUP. Owner advised by ex MM employee that finish is rare original and original as to not having a pg. After much reading through of the different changes made to StingRay parts over the years (hardware, preamps, logo design changes etc) I concluded that mine is a '79er. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 Have you put it in my pre EB thread Matski? And nice 5'er in your picture it looks just like mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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