Ou7shined Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Building from scratch and the bridge I bought has both through body or standard options. I have no real preference which way to go. What are the pros/cons for either set-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmaniac Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 From what im told and experience but mostly opinion - through body gives a meatier tone, and higher tension, whereas standard gives a more punchy tone and a standard tension. Cant think of cons either way. Ive never had any problems with either. So if you like drop tuning, maybe go with string through. Just my 2 pennies/cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmaniac Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Btw, any pics of this build and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Just out of interest, which bridge is it? Hipshot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 cons for thru-stringing- sometimes you'll find the string end silk will lie across the nut, and it can be a pain changing strings, having to thread them through the body. pros, I've found the string feels stiffer, and there's more metallic attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 I do like a bit of drop tuning so maybe through body is the way ahead for me - (point taken about the silk tho SJA) It is indeed hipshot-esque like >[url="http://i4.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/87/53/554e_1.JPG"]this[/url]< one but I'm not going balls out on my first full build attempt and it only cost me £20. No pics yet. I am documenting "Project-J" but I'm planning something a little special and... well... it might not work so I think I'll keep it a surprise for now... Oh I've said too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I got one of those through sting only bridges, with lots of allen bolts to tighen it. You can feel the body resonate a lot more than the bent plate job, and it sustains for days, but I had trouble with string length, I wish I'd gone with onoe that had the option. The silk is a cut and burn job, unless you run out of thick bit, whish is the trouble I had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 [quote name='Ou7shined' post='112354' date='Jan 2 2008, 03:35 PM']Building from scratch and the bridge I bought has both through body or standard options. I have no real preference which way to go. What are the pros/cons for either set-up?[/quote] I like the flexibility of having both, like a Hipshot A style (which I used on my first custom build). I don't have enough evidence to say one is better than the other. If you need any help with your build, give us a shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremen Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='metalmaniac' post='112368' date='Jan 2 2008, 04:07 PM']From what im told and experience but mostly opinion - through body gives a meatier tone, and higher tension, whereas standard gives a more punchy tone and a standard tension.[/quote] Surely for a string of a given weight and length the tension must be the same to get the same pitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmaniac Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Oops, typed the wrong way round according to this. The less string you have outside of the bridge and nut the higher the tension. Apparently. This topic has been disputed quite alot. By luthiers, guitarists, and now Phycisists. So I scoured the 1000's of papers I have access to, and it turns out that by increasing the length of a guitar string on the outside of the actual free oscillating area, when bending the string the stress forces are distributed along a longer length of the cables core (outside the actuall strumming bit) whcih make the string actually easier to bend.(In equal scale lengths) I suppose this makes sense, seeing as the strings are free to move over the bridge and nut, when you pluck a string, some of the transverse stresses can be exerted out of the actual oscillating section of the string, and reduce the tension, whereas for a string whcih ends at the bridge and nut, the same amount of stresses must be displaced over only the oscillating section of string. However im not quite convinced by this, so.. I think im gonna run a couple of tests with an oscilloscope to work out the tensions to find a conclusive result because this has been bugging me for a while. No one has given proof, and all the arguments seem plausible. And when Ive asked luthiers before, ive been given counter acting answers. Unless someone can post a solid conclusion here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmaniac Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Also the more force exerted down on the bridge to the body by the strings can affect the ease of bending. Apparently. So i'll look into that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremen Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='metalmaniac' post='112834' date='Jan 3 2008, 12:55 PM']However im not quite convinced by this, so.. I think im gonna run a couple of tests with an oscilloscope to work out the tensions to find a conclusive result because this has been bugging me for a while.[/quote] Good man, science is Good. How about if you cut a string at the 12th fret and attach the broken ends to a strain gauge; will there be a lesser tonnage exerted when set up through-body? (I hypothesise not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Tim Commerford uses left handed necks cause they give him more tension in his low B. More string free to stretch means more tension needed to stretch it, is how I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 Interesting. I had considered putting on a lefty but thought that it would look too odd (mainly for onlookers, not me) so plumped for regularness... but I think I might be in the market for a new neck again as the one I ordered came with dings. [b]Neepheid[/b], you got a router? Nae the kind that gets yi on t'internet - the ither kind that maks holes in wid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='Ou7shined' post='113099' date='Jan 3 2008, 06:43 PM'][b]Neepheid[/b], you got a router? Nae the kind that gets yi on t'internet - the ither kind that maks holes in wid. [/quote] Aye, just got one for Xmas. Got a wee battery box job for it this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmaniac Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 See this is what I mean. How confusing. I shall take this straight to the head of department. Hold the Non-linear Schrödinger equations! We have basses to pluck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote name='neepheid' post='113103' date='Jan 3 2008, 06:51 PM']Aye, just got one for Xmas. Got a wee battery box job for it this weekend.[/quote] Woot we need to talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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