Josh

[quote name='ped' post='216346' date='Jun 10 2008, 06:08 PM']Interesting article too. I see where he is coming from with a 'thin' bass sound to poke through an otherwise bottom end saturated hip-hop mix. I bet with the low tuning that makes for quite an individual sound.[/quote] Well it's widely debated throughout Warwick players that Warwicks somehow become more growly when tuned lower, and I'm now one to agree with the myth. I had a listen to a few of his tracks on his Myspace before trying: [url="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=66439996"]Listen to HipHopClassics-Live, not my kind of Hip-Hop but his playing makes it more accessible.[/url] And now my tone is very near that, obviously a good bit of his tone is the MTD but still I'm liking what I'm hearing from my Eden.

[quote name='ped' post='216086' date='Jun 10 2008, 12:40 PM']Hehe actually alex at the bash my vig 4's were both in DADG and the 5 string was BEADG(all flat). Actually I am not sure about the 5 string because Luke had it then. If I go flat accross the range on my 4 it is a little TOO loose, I use light strings anyway (40/95) and my action is pretty stupidly low with zero relief on the neck. DADG however just feels right, the low D in particular just resonates and growls beatifully. I think there is definitely something in the idea that some basses resonate better in different tunings. I play everything in DADG now as I am so used to it, and having a couple of extra notes is nice. Strangely I ALWAYS have my 5 stringers tuned flat all the way up. Josh - I think you are right that dropping tuning slightly affects the string feeling differently to changing a gauge. At the end of the day it is all about feel. I wonder about the break angle theory - surely whatever happens after the nut/bridge wont affect the 'speaking length' of the string - or will it? Cheers ped[/quote] Your right Ped Sir! In fact, after reading a BP article about Dante Nolen today, in which he goes on about his Hip-Hop & Gospel playing, and in paticular he mentions about tuning down a full step to achieve a "Sub-Sonic" tone (Which he admits to borrowing from Andrew Gouche), which I've now given a try and I'll be honest, I'm loving it! It's also a good way to train my transposing and also my scales and modes are getting a good look-in as well. I feel I might do as you've done Ped, I might just leave my bass in this tuning. P.S. Found the same article here: [url="http://www.bassplayer.com/article/dante-nolen/jan-07/25314"]Dante Nolen[/url]

Depending on your budget, I'd happily recommend Eden amps (Obviously ), they carry a signature growly tone and when combined with the right bass you end up with a large tonal palette to play with, and alot of the tones are just growl heaven. If anything to me, they are like GK but have more to them and are more simplistic as well. And like Gk, I've seen Eden amps used in many different genres and do the job perfectly. For example, Jeph Howard from The Used was one of the players that got me itching for an Eden rig. But as Bass_Ferret said, if you love the tone of your favourite bassist, research their backline and see if it can work for you as well. [quote]Maybe i should just get something cheap and cheery, and save up for a Gallien Krueger GT2001RB... smile.gif[/quote] I did the same thing man, and it is a great feeling when you get the amp you've wanted for a while.

[quote name='wulf' post='215261' date='Jun 9 2008, 10:12 AM']If you like the lighter feel, use lighter gauge strings. As I recall, the ones I currently use on my six string are 120 - 95 - 75 - 55 - 35 - 25, which are very low tension but give me a sound I am happy with. Wulf[/quote] I've tried lighter gauges before and found them to be to light, lacking in tone and just generally don't feel right, the set I'm using now are the perfect gauge and now tuned down half a step they feel that bit more perfect.

[quote name='Jonny Walker' post='215191' date='Jun 9 2008, 12:42 AM']I propose a salute to humanity lol[/quote] 10-4

It's just that last night I tuned half a step down and was in the midst of working out John Legends "Get Lifted" album, and for some reason I just felt comfortable, the songs can be played in standard quite happily, but the strings felt a bit looser and my right hand felt more relaxed, as did my left, and I haven't been that comfortable for a good while. Just wondering if its the same for anyone else. Josh

[quote name='Jonny Walker' post='214936' date='Jun 8 2008, 03:42 PM']I've seen them 3 times live the first to at the Apollo were great but they supported heaven and hell in Plymouth and they just weren't on the button... but everyone has bad gigs i guess. it always disappointing to see a band under preform, especially when you've seen what the can do...[/quote] I guess, but at least it shows even Pro-Bands screw up, makes them that bit more human. I could make a film containing all the Metallica gigs in which they cock it up quite embarrasingly.

[quote name='Jase' post='214483' date='Jun 7 2008, 05:02 PM'] ...well that's just upset me for the rest of the day....very stressful....seriously though, see what I mean...some of it is so feckin hard to play![/quote] I enjoy the drums alot more than what the bass is doing, which is just plain same old same old, although the riffs are just amazing.

[quote name='Jase' post='214480' date='Jun 7 2008, 04:57 PM']I shall nip over to myspace and have a listen...they do have a page don't they?[/quote] Indeed, [url="http://www.myspace.com/lambofgod"]LOG.[/url]. Your better off listening from "Ruin" upwards, also 2:40-2:44 on Ruin is just amazing.

[quote name='Jase' post='214462' date='Jun 7 2008, 04:40 PM']Lamb of God??? Don't know them at all.[/quote] I regard them as "Nu-Thrash", they are probally one of the most interesting metal bands around today and are just amazing live.

Very August Burns Red and As I Lay Dying..........thats a very good thing

[quote name='Macko1968' post='212556' date='Jun 4 2008, 03:48 PM']In the same way all opinions are, yes. The older stuff with the brass nuts, wenge necks & EMGs were consistently exceptional instruments, I just find the current range, whilst still good, lacking that little extra. If I was dropping £1k, my money would be going on an early example.[/quote] Fair enough man

[quote name='Macko1968' post='212326' date='Jun 4 2008, 09:48 AM']Warwick's aren't bad basses, they just aren't as good as they used to be, but the same can be said of most manufacturers. With that budget I'd be looking for an older model with a brass nut & thru neck. I still totally rate Laklands though, a DJ5 or JO5 would be a great choice.[/quote] Isn't that purely subjective? I've met countless Warwick players who own recent W's and love them and highly recommend them. Even a few who have a mix of Late 80's/Early 90's 'Wicks and newer ones and though he can feel minor differences between them, he can still dial in that growl and feels comfortable, thats what it should be about. In regards to the OP, as said, try a bunch, it's the only way you'll see what the fuss is about and determine if they're for you or not.

Congrats man, when you get your amp you'll have to sit down for a while to take stock of what the $$ can do, a whole lot of pulling pushing and switching is in order.

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='211838' date='Jun 3 2008, 03:06 PM']Did you sell that through the old BassWorld site? I recall agonising over whether to go for that bass (or one very much like it), mainly 'because' of the finish/colour.[/quote] Indeed I did John, I got it from Sugden, and at the time, Tim (Basszilla) had his for sale as well, his was the natural LX version, I was headed more for that one but I eventually gave in and got the Orange one, and I'm glad I did, it's easily one of those basses which are better seen in the flesh. And now it resides in Scotland....I think.

Funnily enough, I popped into the local music shop and managed to stumble across one of my old V950's, identifiable due to the name "Ashley" crudely grafted onto the truss rod cover. Still have the other one though which was the keeper, she is calling for new strings though, it's been about 4 months since I nicked all the strings from it. But more to the point, I got a Spector Euro for a Christmas present 2 years ago, I paid for it, and it was my first real High-end bass, though through youth-related stupidness and lack of knowledge I sold it on. And latley I've been eriously thinking how it would fare now I'm more focused and havinga much superior amp. Luckily I know where the bass is and who has it: I even miss the colour

Welcome to the forum Mod! Unfortunatley the best advice I can offer from listening to Bloc Party and from seeing various live clips is that a good bulk of his sound is from his Fender P-Bass, and I'm not too sure if it's a Mexican or American either. Sorry man thats the best I can do. Josh

[quote name='simondee' post='209155' date='May 29 2008, 08:56 PM']YES. the guy from Protest is AMAZING. also, I love Brian from A Wilhelm Scream (although they're *technically* a punk rock band). gratuitous tapping video: [url="http://vimeo.com/629705"]http://vimeo.com/629705[/url] [/quote] Arif is pretty underrated amongst most bassists, greatly varied and can dance and growl at the same time, and also his Spectors look and sound georgous!

Love it, played in thrash covers/original band for a while, got the shirts. Though I'd never do it again, maybe a few Metallica covers for kicks. In fact, I played a good amount of 'Tallica songs for the first time in 2 and a half years just the other day, it felt quite humbling actually. When I am inspried to write metal-esque stuff, I tend to draw influence from Mudvayne and Protest the Hero, seeing as the metal side of my bass-vocabulary is a good mix between the 2. Technical yet groovy and melodic.

Also Sean Malone, from Cynic. Cruelly underrated.

Enjoy the amount of tones you'll be able to squezze out of the $$.

[quote name='andy67' post='208147' date='May 28 2008, 04:00 PM']you could do that yourself josh, not a difficult task unless you are me and crap at woodwork! lol andy[/quote] Ohhh I am, so it be down to a luthier. Though I wouldn't know to get a Di'Marzio to match them up but then again their a tad too much on the treble side of thing.