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Did you phone ahead to get all the details? Or is that going against the grain?

You heard the band playing down at the farm this weekend? Apparently it's ABBAtoir.

Let's milk it

We'll have to just plough on regardless.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1455878713' post='2983173'] Thanks. I just googled Bluetooth IEM and the latency is 26-40ms! So are there wifi IEMs- more googling... [/quote] Was going to say - latency is the biggest drawback of digital and IEMs. In fact, digital does bring a lot of drawbacks in terms of latency to a lot more than just IEMs. Take your typical digital instrument wireless - that's on average between 3-8ms latency. Into a desk that introduces between 2-10ms (depending upon on the desk) of processing (assuming you are only using onboard processing - external processing adds it's own latency on top)... before you even get that to your ears, worse case, you are looking towards on18ms latency. If you are running a digital snake between the stage and the console... there's more latency. Now replace your worse case 8ms wireless guitar transmitter for a microphone. Now trying singing against a signal which is near enough 20ms behind what you are singing. It's not a flier. A delay direct into the ear becomes unbearable at 10ms - for other people it's less than that. That's why digital IEM systems are not common place yet... as by the time it hits the transmitter system, you can't afford to add any more latency! This is why there is no mainstream digital IEM. (Lectrosonics (translates to "expensive" are the only guys I know of who make one - and I seem to recall the latency figure being crazy low - circa 1ms). The thing is, the IEM system would get the blame for all the acquired latency up to that point... so it would be a marketing nightmare to try and make even a low latency system work appealing to end users.

[quote name='The Twickerman' timestamp='1455886211' post='2983290'] I'd like to investigate in-ear monitoring - but maybe next year. This year I'd like to focus on sounding good on-stage, if that makes sense. I'll use my backline to monitor myself then get the sound man to ensure I can hear everyone else through the wedges. [/quote] If you haven't seen it already, join the fun in this thread - http://basschat.co.uk/topic/205633-in-ear-monitors-help-needed/ - lots of information, probably the most comprehensive on the net.

Maybe the foal posts have been moved? bring on the farming puns I say!

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1455828581' post='2982855'] If the monitors are 'proper' pro standard, you can rely on those. Also, don't let the band's volume spiral out of control just because it's a big venue. Keep it controlled. [/quote] You know, there is one man you can call...

[quote name='IanA' timestamp='1455813183' post='2982679'] Do you play Wembley often? [/quote] Only as a warm up gig.

If you are in theatres, you'd hope that there's a good console available. In which case, go in-ears.

I have customs yes. 1964s are great - I have experience of those also. Although get in quick for 1964s as they are rebranding and pushing the Adel stuff so the price is gonna rise! 64s really are great value for money at the moment The great thing about 64 and JHA is that the piece are actually designed by guys with great ears - they are both monitoring engineers. There's a big thread on IEM in accessories and misc forum. Worth a read.

[quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1455744867' post='2982123'] This leads on to another hobby horse of mine. if the Sound tech takes out the sub 30-35Hz crap that many bass amps put out that will be one of the reasons the Floor monitor sounds better. It is an HPF and they should be fitted to all bass amps. However most will be less than ideal for bass. As for IEMs, it makes sense for vocals but not for bass. Remember that your back line is a part of your instrument, like the body on an acoustic guitar. [/quote] A lot of bass amps do have hpfs... As do a lot of onboard preamps in basses. Some don't. They are the problematic ones. The reason a lot of monitors don't sound great for bass is that they aren't great monitors. Great monitors are great for bass... It's just that great monitors aren't commonplace. It's the first saving to be had in a PA setup. IEMs not good for bass? Me and my JHA Roxannes would argue with you over that til the cows come home. Those IEMs develop more bass than any other setup I've known and enable me to hear everything exactly how I want. There's no wedge that can do that for me. I'd be interested to learn more why you think IEMs don't make sense for bass.

[quote name='tonyf' timestamp='1455720887' post='2981805'] Someone called?! [/quote] So where's yours?

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1455735809' post='2981982'] What happens if the Tickled Trout call you for a gig and you have hired out the DB or D and B speakers to another band that night? [/quote] The same as this...

Only a full touring crew for a touring spec rig!

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1455723838' post='2981846'] We play mustang Sally in C, if the venue isn't happy about that they can get another band to play instead. [/quote] 440 or 432 tuning?

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1455717830' post='2981769'] Back on topic, though, ears are rather sensitive to frequency as well as volume, so it might be worth playing in a different quay. [/quote] But are we going to phone up venues to see if the monitors are happy if we change keys on them?

No, I've baited for compliments.

Wow. The quality of these puns has sunk real pedalo.

[quote name='Chris Horton' timestamp='1455649068' post='2981157'] Does anyone know if there is a pedal that can give you your original bass tone at the same time give you a synth/keyboard pad tone ? [/quote] looper pedal to run your bass in parallel -> something like this. http://www.brightonion.co.uk/blender-looper/

I don't like to pier in my pants after being on the beach. Sandy, sandy...

Maybe she'll bring Jay-Sea with her too.

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1455532709' post='2979841'] I wonder what the monitoring is like here? [url="http://www.debees.com/"]http://www.debees.com/[/url] [/quote] Naturally, you should phone them up.

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1455534096' post='2979863'] we're really plumbing new depths now. [/quote] Agreed. A completely different league.

Hmm, perhaps JT now likes to keep stories about his gigs and life guarded.