Jerry_B

I bought a Boss CEB-3 pedal from CreetzeCarter recently. The pedal was posted the same day he received the money from me, and arrived nicely packaged up the next day. The pedal is in very good nick and has the manual, etc. with it too. Great stuff!

At the end of the day it boils down to what inspires you and what interests you. It's a matter of taste. To be honest, Jaco's work does nothing whatsoever for me. And before you ask, yes, I have listened to what he's created. Being a fretless player, I've done my research But at the end of the day I just don't find any of it inspiring to me personally. Thankfully, playing the bass covers a wide area of tones, playing styles, etc.. People can like or dislike what they want, depending on what gets their juices flowing

[quote name='dmccombe7' post='1139890' date='Feb 24 2011, 01:02 PM']Have you looked at the BH500 range which is a lot cheaper with more toys than the Classic. Cabs also a good bit cheaper than the TC range although power rating is lower at 250W for 2x10" cab. If anyone has tried these I'd be interested to know how they compare.[/quote] That's what I'm wondering too, as I'm tempted to get a BH500...

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='1138973' date='Feb 23 2011, 06:26 PM']Nope I'm not saying that. I am categorically saying (not implying) that he isn't very good. I'm not saying that what he comes up with sometimes isn't bad though - I have even gone as far as paying him for his bother on occasions. He plays as good as he needs to. I've never seen any him evolve beyond that which he needs for his style of playing. Most of us have had to struggle to get better and better so we can deliver our best effort when we get our big break. Hooky achieved fame and fortune (???) early into his foray into music and stuck - perhaps by design, perhaps by reaching the zenith of his talent. Please take 10 seconds to understand what I'm saying rather than opposing it because you think I'm flaming the man.[/quote] I don't think you're flaming him. Perhaps it's just a case that he's stuck to a style he likes to play? He's not the only bass player out there to do that. His playing has evolved over time, but his overall style is in a certain niche. You can, after all, usually recognise his sound and style. Whether that makes him good or not is, as I've said, probably down to one man's poison being another man's meat.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='1138803' date='Feb 23 2011, 04:47 PM']It would be reasonable to assume that anyone who picked up a bass after listening to Hooky and stuck with it beyond his level (basic) actually had a talent for it and would have found other more profoundly influential influences on their voyage to finding themselves.[/quote] I wouldn't say that's reasonable at all. And what do you mean by 'basic'? Are you implying that the only good bass lines are fiddly ones? If so, then Hooky and quite a few other influential bass players (i.e. J J Burnel) have no value?

[quote name='Doddy' post='1137955' date='Feb 22 2011, 11:56 PM']I'm not denying that people might like his playing (mainly because they like the band) but to me,he is pretty inconsequential as a bass player.[/quote] Well, one man's poison is another man's meat - personally I don't see the fascination with Jaco's or Geedy's playing, but at the end of the day what you decide is valid is whatever is an influence. Like it or not, Hooky has inspired alot of people to take up the bass and get into it as an instrument, which is no bad thing at the end of the day.

[quote name='Doddy' post='1137889' date='Feb 22 2011, 11:00 PM']Has anyone read the interview with Hook in the book 'In Cold Sweat'? He doesn't come over particularly well in it,I think.[/quote] I think it's pretty well established that he can be a bit of a git (I got that impression when I saw New Order play in the late '80s). That doesn't make him unique in the music world. Whether that has any bearing on his playing, etc - well, I doubt it.

Yep - I was wondering whether it's a problem of aesthetics more than anything else. An expensive bass should have better build quality and therefore one assumes it has better QC looking over it before it leaves the factory. But other than that I dunno if it actually messes up the sound of the bass too much, if at all, unless it's really out of whack...

But then again, does the bass sound suffer from the bridge being slightly misaligned? Is there a point where if starts messing things up? I ask as I imagine the magnetic field of the pickups is spread around to a certain extent. My Squier P/J has a misaligned bridge, but otherwise sounds fine.

Hmm - does this mean it's now fair game to have threads where people deride bass players they don't like? I mean, for example, what if someone was to wander into the forum , post a link to a YouTube Jaco clip and ask 'Huh? Is this supposed to be a good? His tone sounds like a duck trying to fart it's way to freedom from a plastic bucket' etc etc. Would that thread get binned...?

Yep, the band being sh*te on TOTP - alot of those for other bands , and not just on TOTP. But then again I don't think anyone was suggesting New Order are perfect

[quote name='crez5150' post='1137585' date='Feb 22 2011, 07:54 PM']what I meant was in reference to my earlier post about the bass line of Love will Tear us Apart..... in as much that it could be any instrument playing that melody.....[/quote] But it'd sound bloody awful. A couple of people have tried to play it either with a guitar or with keyboards (i.e. Stanton Miranda) and it just sounds wrong. It doesn't sit in the song at all well, especially compared to the original. Put bluntly, it works on the bass better than anything else.

[quote name='crez5150' post='1137396' date='Feb 22 2011, 05:52 PM']Not really..... hooky plays up the neck.... it's not a bass line is it.... I mean would 'Good Times' by Chic sound the same if the bass line was played on guitar... I think not.[/quote] That's a bit narrow in thinking isn't it? So playing up the neck isn't a bass line? Since when?

[quote name='crez5150' post='1136788' date='Feb 22 2011, 10:02 AM']that wasn't really a bass line though was it..... it was a melody line played on a bass. That could have been any instrument[/quote] You could say the same thing about alot of stuff played by other bass players - most of it could be played by a guitar. Take the more fiddly stuff played by some bassists - the same thing could be done on a guitar.

[quote name='icastle' post='1134846' date='Feb 20 2011, 09:30 PM']The only other place I can think of is [url="http://www.auroraproject.co.uk"]Aurora[/url]. They don't stock a Mustang scratchplate but they can make one from a template or the original and they don't charge extra for doing it![/quote] IME Aurora make pretty shoddy copies and when you ask for refunds they tend to go quiet and stop replying to e-mails...

So Hooky noodling about on a bass is going to be an excuse to slag off his whole career then? Tut tut I know he's not one of the sacred cows of bass playing (apparently), but I'd imagine people wouldn't stand for the same sort of comments being made about those aforementioned cows...

I'd say he has quite a bit a bit of stuff in his back-catalogue that's better than this

Just to show you don't need a Pbass to get that punk tone... Klaus Flouride has always used a Jazz (and a quite nice blue metallic one at that)...

Aha - Victims Family - another great band...

I think it helps with the 'dirty punk tone' theme...

Also...

The reliced effect on the ESP version is also much of the same thing. I don't understand why they bothered relicing them - they're good for what they are without faffing about with the finish. The 204 is growing on me tho', as it's a solid no-frills bit of kit. There aren't many Fender-like P/J basses out there, and I prefer it to the Squier Pbass Special I have.