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[quote name='supabock' timestamp='1327598445' post='1514038'] No not at all, you're entitled to your point.... i just shop carefully as i know i don't have enough money to make changes [/quote] With reference to the above - I wasn't to know 12 months ago that 6 months later deep rooted issues would surface that threatened to stop me playing bass... and that a few months after that they would get so bad that I can't play bass for a week after every gig. I know I've been through a lot of gear over the last few years (I think to think of myself as an EX-bass whore - As I am settled and very much in love with Roscoes), but this move is a tough one... The Fretless I'm selling is THE best instrument I have ever played. I'm gutted I have to do this. But I do have to do this. Anyway. Money. No money. This is a build diary... The slanted pups on the LG are quite unique looking when pared with a ramp, Roscoe has done a few of them and the over all look is something like this... [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Other%20Roscoes/76e934a9.jpg[/IMG] I've never been a ramp user, but since I've ha to change my playing technique massively over the last few months I find it REALLY helps me stop anchoring my thumb when my finger tips can lightly brush the pups and ramp. It it helps... It makes the cut!

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1327573113' post='1513440'] ooooh, cool, will give it a blast through the mixing-rig at home (I have a nice sub). [/quote] Cool. Lemme know what ya' think. [quote name='simwells' timestamp='1327594638' post='1513963'] Temporarily wired up in the only way I could get what I wanted at the time fitted! Messy I know but it keeps changing recently so I'm averse to sorting it out too much when I know that there's more changes to be made. Debating what the next step is with splitting it across two board or something as I really would benefit from an MP-201 as well as having my eye on a WMD Geiger Counter amongst other planned pedals! [/quote] Looks awesome as a set up. Both the MP-201 and the Geiger Counter are amazing, getting your hands on an MP-201 is getting tricky now though As for boards, it's worth waiting until you have a set up you like and get something custom made. I was using 2 Diago Tourmam board for a while and when I got the beast made that I use now, that worked out a fiar bit cheaper than I'd spent on the 2 Tourmen.

Lol. Seriously. I'll of lost ALOT of money and I can ONLY afford this bass by selling my others. This bass will end up being my ONLY instrument. But it means I can keep doing what I love in more comfort!

[quote name='supabock' timestamp='1327580817' post='1513616'] You've got too much money [/quote] I wish!! I'm selling 2 basses that I had to sell 4 basses to fund. And from those 2 basses I'll end up with 1 bass worth less than either of them

You will need to use a Stereo lead - that's your 1st issue. The pedal may work fine, I'm sure of the Moog's adaptability.

Also, I think you need a 50k pot (like the EP-2) to get the full 0-5v CV scale out of the pedal.

Are you using a Stereo cable?

Russ - I have flirted with the synth idea too. Truth be told it hurt my right hand more than the bass... that said it was 'new' to the hand and obviously removes the shoulder issues. I just don't think I'm willing to give up the bass just yet. It is my fall back though scojack - Thanks bud. Should of also mentioned on the spec (I'll update now), that the neck and string width is reduced to provide a little more economy of movement, so not only from a 6 to 5 but also from 19mm to 18mm (well, 18.15mm if you want to be uber precise - down to the bridge manufacturer, not me being anal for a change!).

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1327566921' post='1513318'] I really need to get to one of these gigs to see it in action [/quote] Give it a bit of a listen here: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/72012-drum-n-bassdubstep/page__view__findpost__p__1512692

[quote name='Darkstrike' timestamp='1327538725' post='1513233'] I see! I always thought the LG, above the others, just locks into your body, like putting on a set of well worn gloves, almost don't realize it's there. [/quote] I agree. The Century always felt instinctive to me as its body size was close to that of basses I have owned before, I now see that 'familiar' has become the problem! I always like the idea of the LG but the reach always seemed a little too much and its never seemed to make sense in my mind on the 6 string versions I had always tried. Playing the 4's and 5's just suddenly clicked. Match that with the comfort I'd been experiencing from the 33 & 32" scale instruments I'd been trying and I'm confident I have a recipe for something special. I have to tell you though - the strangest thing for me is thinking that I'll soon not be playing a 6 string

[quote name='Darkstrike' timestamp='1327537887' post='1513223'] Interesting stuff, I'm just glad you'll be able to get something to suit you! Very surprised to hear it's going to be made as a LG. [/quote] Me too. lol. I spent a bot of time with the body shapes as I've always been a Century man, but the size differences are quite substantial. The LG offers more 'potential' to save weight as theres a surprising amount less wood than the Century, also the ergonomics seemed to suit me nicely. Also, as I do a lot of crouching and knob twidding live, the 'flattened bottom' of the LG means I can actually wear the bass slightly lower without me needing to move the bass when I crouch... If the bottom hangs over my bely line, I have to move it to the left or right so it isn't moved aside my my right thigh in the kneeling position. It may seem like a minor point, but having spent, no dedicated my life to ergonomics over the last few months, it seemed worth while.

Well. Another Roscoe I hear you say. It wasn't 5 minutes since this beauty landed on my lap: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/149311-roscoe-century-custom-3006-fretless/page__hl__roscoe"]http://basschat.co.u...age__hl__roscoe[/url] and I've been in love with it ever since. Unfortunately, due to some health complications, the bass I play has become a bit of an issue. I had my dream pair of Roscoes in cosmetic and tonal terms, but due to chronic Tendonitis in the right hand, triggering in 3 fingers, a damaged tendon in my left wrist, shoulder issues caused by constant hyper-extention & the revealing of a serious imbalance in my spine and hips... playing a wide necked, wide spaced, 35" scale bass has become exceptionally painful. I have put many of these things down to 'aches and pains' for sometime before waking in agony and my fingers triggering persuaded me to go and see a Doc. Word of wisdom - if you have such issues don't ignore them for 6 months like I did! Being very short, with short arms, and playing 35" scale basses for 8 years has forced my left shoulder into an unnatural position. To counter balance this, my hip has followed suit, causing my spine to be a tad awkward as well. The imbalance in my shoulders seems to of led to some weakening in my arms and slowly to my hands. The Doc has been very helpful and we making great progress without going down the surgical route. I've also been seeing a Chiropractor, which while slow progress at first, is now having fantastic results with my shoulder (Though my hip is still not keen). Facing facts though, the basses I have, while not the sole cause, are only aggravating the conditions. So... I've spent 3 months trying every bass I possibly can, compiling what helps and what aggravates the conditions. Some things help in areas, but set off other issues etc. 3 months later I have a spec for a bass that works. Letting go of my pair is painful to say the least, the fretless especially. My Fretted Koa Roscoe has already been sold to a chap in Italy via Bass Direct and the Fretless is currently listed on Bass Direct at a substantial loss to myself.([url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Roscoe_CS6Fless.html"]http://www.bassdirec...e_CS6Fless.html[/url]) While I am not keen on loosing money, the realisation that I am making this move out of necessity and that frankly, my health and ability to keep doing what I love is vital and more important to me than anything. If you want a bargain, snap that bass up! So, the new bass will be shorter scale, tighter spacing with a non-standard neck profile and very weight-efficeint. Spec... Roscoe LG Signature V (UPDATE: Serial number #6364) Tuned E-C with Hipshot Xtender on the E string [b]32" scale[/b] 18.3mm string spacing Very lightweight Ash body Buckeye Burl top & headstock facing Signature Maple/Purpleheart/Maple wedge neck Ultra SLIM neck profile Pau Ferro fretboard Diamondwood nut Bart/Roscoe pickups (slanted LG style) Diamondwood ramp (slanted LG style) Bart 18v preamp with Active/Passive switch Lightweight black hardware Luxury Roscoe fitted hardcase This bass will be fretted, whilst I have been playing fretless almost exclusively for the last few months, this has been as I love the fretless bass just a little more than the fretted. Truth be told, a fretted works with my music too AND is ultimately more versatile should I want to dabble with other things. I will miss having a fretless, but hopefully I'll not be without forever. The 32" scale is not something seen all too often but Roscoe have done a few with great success. It's also being done on the LG body shape, which has a much shorter top horn, which effectively makes the nut a little further away from the body on a strap. A 32" scale on this body feels a little more like a 33" scale when worn, but gives a slightly closer spacing of frets high up the neck and a closer feel when sitting as I now play bass in the 'classical' position when I sit (thanks mcgraham for that useful hint!). So there we have it. Difficult times, difficult measures but I am very very motivated at the moment with music going so well and am determined to get around the pain and discomfort and continue to play the instrument I love. I'll keep tis updated with progress reports and pics as and when. Roscoe's estimate is around 12 weeks.

The B7K is lovely, though I prefer the Bass Drive for more subtle warmth and grit, plus its a tone cheaper (when you can find one!). The B7K is super versatile, but I needed something to nail 1 sound perfectly - The Full Tone won! [b][i]As this topic has been covered over and over recently, here is the sticky discussion thread: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/177691-the-old-do-i-really-need-effects-or-whats-the-point-in-effects-argument/"]http://basschat.co.u...fects-argument/[/url][/i] [i]Please continue discussion there rather than here...[/i][/b]

Actually, I have found an Overdrive to be the hardest thing to find that sounded good. I wanted something very very slight, a tiny, warm crunch that sounded natural and gritty without being anything like a distortion or fuzz. I've had/have a number of distortion and fuzz pedals I love, but only a few months ago have I actually integrated an OD into my set up. 12 years I've played bass and never kept an OD pedal for more than a few months. I now have a Full Tone bass Drive and for what I want - It's staying for life!

The Oscillators idea is something I've flown for a while. I did a talk at a Drummers forum a while back, about using the bass in modern music to play styles that deliberate DON'T lock with the drums... This concept came from that and it's how I've thought I it since. As for the Polytune mini, due out in a month or so I think. Don't get too excited though - they messages me today, as I'll be one of the 1st bass players with one, to say that due to the size, certain features were left out (I assume as they can't fit everything on the circuit board). The thing that got left out was the guitar/bass switch for the poly mode. Which means bass can be tuned in chromatic mode only. I tended to use it that way anyway - but it's not really a 'polytuner' for the bass.

[IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Live%20from%20The%20Maze%20Jan%202012/IMG_6978.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Live%20from%20The%20Maze%20Jan%202012/IMG_6872.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Live%20from%20The%20Maze%20Jan%202012/IMG_6899.jpg[/IMG]

[quote name='bartelby' timestamp='1327517258' post='1512804'] I bet that was the guy who won the Boss competition last year. The prize was the entire pedal range. [/quote] Quite likely! To be fair though - the comments kinda support this thread. It's clear that many folk view effects differently and 'most' (maybe) still thank that having a distortion pedal is enough, and in many cases it is. These folks are likely great musicians that make great music as well. They have always got by being creative and making music for their enjoyment and their audience base with just one pedal, or no pedals. It's just a shame that a few folks (not many mind) can't accept that effects and pedals can be an instrument of their own, that many forms of electronic music are based upon the sounds that these things create. It's unreasonable to think, that with so many pedals on the market, that is someone wants to make synthesised music, that they have to use a keyboard!

A few shots from our show at the weekend taken by a local photographer showing the board on stage! [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Live%20from%20The%20Maze%20Jan%202012/IMG_6968.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Live%20from%20The%20Maze%20Jan%202012/IMG_6899.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Live%20from%20The%20Maze%20Jan%202012/IMG_6860.jpg[/IMG]

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1327516395' post='1512783'] Don't worry Shep, there are people spending more money than you: [url="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=307631645947200&set=a.153482268028806.26828.141818032528563&type=1&theater"]http://www.facebook....&type=1[/url] The guy who commented on your pic must me a failed guitarist who never could get the hang to control a simple crybaby... [/quote] Now thats special...

Vids from the weekends gig... Please listen via hi-fi or headphones - laptop speakers tend not to reproduce the 40hz so well http://youtu.be/jif7E2FKLds And, http://youtu.be/aOApHtg5aCM

Yeah a bit silly. Some dude says he can't believe I 'wasted' my money. Oh well.

Lol. It was me. I didn't have a message as I have my privacy set so folks can't message me easily. They sent me a friend request. All sorted! Woop!

[quote name='bartelby' timestamp='1327498978' post='1512336'] Well done on the Polytune Mini! [/quote] Wow - I didn't realise I'd won one!!! Cheers for the heads up!! That's the 2nd thin I've won on TC's give away's!

[quote name='Ed_S' timestamp='1327486194' post='1511935'] Out of genuine interest, do you enjoy using a big board as an integral part of your performance rather than just a necessity to achieve your sound? Do you 'engage with it' (for want of a better description) and alter the f/x parameters in real time, or just turn things on and off that you've carefully pre-set? I only ask because if I were doing f/x on a big scale, I reckon I'd want to put them all in rack drawers and use a GCX or something to switch presets. But then, I suppose that might be taking away an integral element of your live performance..? If I'm appearing clueless, it's because I play standard rock / heavy metal and my trademark thing is to set the EQ flat, strap on my wireless kit and head off to rock out on the floor with the audience, so I'd find it a real pain to use anything pedal-wise for more than an intro, and don't really feel it'd enhance much if I went to the trouble! [/quote] I am pretty interactive when it comes to my set up. I have the pedals set up in 'defaut' position, which is effectively a position that offers sounds/tones which I love and would be happy treating it at a simple on/off effect like anyone else. A fair portion of my set up stays this way. I'd say 12 units stay like this. Set up for specific parts of tracks or improv. The other 8 however get tweaked an awful lot. Some by expression pedal, some by hand, some by both (at the same time). A number of the pedals I use a lot (Low Pass Filter, Ring Mod, Cluster Flux... In fact all the Moog stuff!) use very different tones for different tracks to I totally reset and tweak while playing between track. This takes some doing and I treat the board as part of the instrument. To me the bass is a set of oscillators and the board is the rest of the synth, so tweaking stuff does not seem a chore, it's part of playing. I try and spend at least one day a week (but generally two) with the set up playing with textures and layers and how things interact with every tiny turn of every knob, so yes, I'd say I interact with it a fair bit. A few Basschatters have seen me use the set up live (Phil.I.Stein, mcgraham, Dan Owens) so they'd be better to ask if the time and effort has paid off...!