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[quote name='Doctor J' post='292036' date='Sep 25 2008, 04:47 PM']Aris's SB shape is excellent - function and comfy but maybe too tied to the 80's.[/quote] But a shape that is itself being imitated. While they may have started out as imitators, there is a great deal of originality in concepts coming out of Asia - Atlansia have some shapes derived from the traditional - the Jupiter and the Stealth being takes (if slightly twisted) on the Jazz - but some that are unique - the Pentagone and the Oxford (bizarre). As an alternative to the Stealth, I'm interested in playing the Galaxy and the Pegasus to see how these compare for balance of ergonomic fit.

[quote name='Bassassin' post='293178' date='Sep 26 2008, 10:37 PM']Stuart ... such a talented, but unassuming & genuine guy. RIP.[/quote] The last throws of the 80s, a friend of a friend of a friend’s house-warming, and in one of the sprawling Victorian bedroom suites, Stuart was perched on the edge of a very large bed, strumming an acoustic guitar and singing Scots laments, with some 20 or 30 drunken attendees. Quite magical to witness. A fragile soul, and sadly missed.

[quote name='tombboy' post='292833' date='Sep 26 2008, 03:19 PM']do you own Fender? [/quote] Not since ’85, when I disposed of an ’81 Precision Special and an ‘83 Elite II. More interested in innovators than imitators.

[quote name='SJA' post='292710' date='Sep 26 2008, 12:27 PM']yeah, that's in "the American" and others on Sons & Fascination. Jamie Stewart of the Cult also used that eg. Ressurection Joe, Go West, God's zoo.[/quote] Yes, across Sons And Fascination and Sister Feelings Call there are a significant number of styles and techniques on display from Forbes. Of course, like you, I have trouble remembering which tracks are on which, having received SFC bundled as a free EP with SAF. [quote name='SJA' post='293128' date='Sep 26 2008, 09:14 PM']it's of note that both Derek Forbes and Jamie Stewart (also JJ Burnel and Macca) were originally guitarists- and weren't satisfied with just plodding away in the background on bass.[/quote] You could also add Bruce Foxton (The Jam) to that list - although perhaps of a slightly lesser calibre. He did play an Aria Pro II SB1000 for a time - notably on The Tube and during their farewell tour - so that makes him okay in my book! Oddly, Paul Weller started his career as a bassist - which he went on to play regularly in the early days of The Style Council.

Opt for the centre line, and use half- / ground wounds.

[quote name='lemmywinks' post='292835' date='Sep 26 2008, 03:21 PM']Plus it's funny when a guitarist gives you a guitar and finds out you actually have a lot more understanding of it than they do! [/quote] So true.

[quote name='Bassassin' post='64240' date='Sep 22 2007, 11:45 PM'][A]lthough the production sounds horribly squeaky & overprocessed these days![/quote] Surely not. Think it's time the gated reverb snares of the 80s made a comeback.

[quote name='Clarky' post='292761' date='Sep 26 2008, 01:36 PM']PS. What were the 20 "watchers" doing then? Suppose they were other Rick owners trying to see what they could get for theirs????[/quote] You know what it's like: After an hour spent on the 'Bay here, and across the pond, you've got an even baker's dozen of nice finds flagged to watch. Of course, next time you get back to the 'Bay, you've forgotten two-thirds of what you saw last time, and you're already on your way to the next baker's dozen. It hate to say it - getting that alarmist vibe running - but the trending of last year and this one is reminding me of the mid to late 80s, when the arse fell out of some sectors of the economy, including the trade in customer-used musical gear.

[quote name='dlloyd' post='292387' date='Sep 26 2008, 06:06 AM']Okay, I'm curious... what did he do to you?[/quote] Put his "X" on the paperwork that said "Design Approved". So hope EBMM put this into production. Be the last thing it ever does.

I'm quite partial to magenta, and indigo, and a splash of cerise now and again.

[quote name='dub_junkie' post='292382' date='Sep 26 2008, 02:50 AM']New Gold Dream - an amazing album full of amazing bass lines.[/quote] Couldn't disagree with that. New Gold Dream (81, 82, 83, 84) is among Forbes best work, when taken as a whole. In the earlier work, from Life In A Day to Sister Feelings Call there are many examples of Forbes creativity, and his passion, energy, and technique; but on NGD all of the elements come together and shimmer - or should that be glitter? Sparkle In The Rain was just the album that popped up in the auto-changer.

The relative aspects of the supply and demand equation. When the money supply is in short supply people will exercise a great deal more selectivity in their decisions and acquisitions. Prices are falling for mass-produced instruments that are in ready supply, but are proving more resilient for handmade and vintage instruments.

Totally agree. My drummer uses Roland V-Drums, with a mixture of "real" cymbals and percussion. Never had a problem with him doing that. But, like many people, I do prefer the sound of an acoustic kit for recording purposes.

[quote name='josh3184' post='292035' date='Sep 25 2008, 04:46 PM']Just browsing for the Sterling prototype when I cam across this:[/quote] Sterling Ball, you've done it again! I do so enjoy a good laugh before going off to bed.

It was the other weekend, and I was driving across to the Irvine Valley. As I came upon the old A77, about a mile before the Fenwick Moor road, the Minds rolled around on the auto-changer. Now, I'll say one thing about the Ford Cougar, it has one hell of a good sound system, and with the windows down, the amp cranked, Sparkle In The Rain was blasting out of the speakers. What I was reminded was that Forbes playing has so much character, energy and variety - from the straight ahead rockers like Up On The Catwalk, to the dynamic fretless of Book Of Brilliant Things, to the powerhouse slapping of Speed Your Love To Me, to the manic descending runs of White Hot Day, to the proto-punk / power-pop heritage in the chord distortions of The Kick Inside Of Men. And, as I Senna-ed the S's, I was thinking to myself, "Damn, that man can play". Of course, Sparkle In The Rain era Minds, people always name check Waterfront, and the pulse bass part. But that song wouldn't be half the song it is if you took the other parts Forbes is playing out of the mix. And if ever there was one single track that is a clear demonstration of the stadium act the Minds could have become with Forbes in the fold, well, there it is - grandeur, and not grandiose. (Or when it comes to Kerr, self-aggrandising.) Having seen the Minds lives, with Forbes on bass duties, at the Apollo Theatre and Barrowlands Ballroom, it's not that I didn't know how good the man was. But it's good to be reminded. What I was left wondering, though, was if I could think of another player who moved so effortlessly between fretted and fretless.

[quote name='YouMa' post='292307' date='Sep 25 2008, 10:31 PM']or am i being spirited to the darkside?[/quote] Interesting ... I suppose it depends on your ambitions as a musician. Personally I think that it's essential to play more than one instrument - and I consider myself fortunate that I can play all the three essentials for a rock musician: guitar, bass and drums. Sure, I'm a jack-of-all-trades, but a master of none - but I'd rather be that than limited by tunnel vision or prejudice. But even more so, as a songwriter, I can't imagine how I would cope without time spent regularly playing guitar. Oddly, I find that I write better melody lines when I use a bass - something that I've never been able to understand. Your observation makes sense to me. I've always found that my abilities on any one instrument plateau, and that no matter how much time I spend practising, continuously, this doesn't change. But taking time away, and then going back, it's as though that time has allowed all the practice to cross some brain barrier, and enter my subconscious - and I find my hands can then do what it was my brain was asking them to do, but they couldn't. Darkside, no. More like enlightenment.

[quote name='MacDaddy' post='292277' date='Sep 25 2008, 09:57 PM']Where do you put them all? I had enough trouble with storage when I had 4![/quote] I'd been thinking that too. Staying in an old property, I think I have a few more corners than the average modern property, but still, I think I'd run out of corners well before I accommodate 57 basses. And even if I started to use manmade corners, formed by furniture and walls, I still think I'd come up short! Mind-boggling ...

[quote name='Hot Tub' post='292221' date='Sep 25 2008, 08:44 PM']Bowie wasn't New Romantic. Bowie was "Bowie" - separate and distinct from all genres. IMHO.[/quote] But how many people assume that his Commedia dell'Arte Pierrot and the release of Fashion and Ashes To Ashes preceded New Romanticism, only to be debussed of the notion on a simple review of release dates? Bowie, the archetypal chameleon, and an artful imitator.

[quote name='ARGH' post='119351' date='Jan 12 2008, 11:53 PM']Ok To settle the Duranie debate once and for all 1st Lp.....Simons on it (and hes chorused out to hell and back,coz hes out of tune)...Johns on it,and Nicks on there in parts. 2nd lp Everyones on there,but theres session drums,some geezer took a £50 hushbung to play a few tracks,same with a few guitar tracks,and Nicks not doing EVERYTHING keys wise. 3rd lp,They are all on it (and the coke too). Out of all of them Johns ALWAYS had the most musical talent,followed by Nick. The rest are debatable.[/quote] Hang on, just exactly what are you basing your statements on? I was working in music journalism in the 80s and was at a venue to see a solo Andy Taylor performance. Luckily for me, I was allowed to attend the soundcheck, where I saw Taylor playing a selection of songs from the setlist to be performed that night as well as a few run-through cover versions. To say that I was staggered by just how good a guitar player Taylor was would be a massive understatement - his rhythm work was precise, and played with real bite; his choice of chord voicings was varied and colourful; and his lead playing was a true revelation, technically and compositionally. And lets not forget, this is a musician who has secured some high-profile session slots with Belinda Carlisle, Robert Palmer, Rod Stewart, Thunder. To suggest that this man lacks musical ability is just wrong. As for Duran Duran, I can take them or leave them. My younger sister was a big fan though.

You know, I don't think I've ever seen Derek Forbes mentioned here - or on the old versions of the site.

[quote name='Protium' post='291640' date='Sep 25 2008, 10:44 AM']Anyone with a 1930's Audiovox electric bass? Fender would probably pay [u]anything[/u] for these to dispose of them and be the "inventor" of the electric bass ha ha[/quote] Well, there are substantial differences between Paul Tutmarc’s electronic bass fiddle and Leo Fender’s precision bass – not least that Tutmarc’s instrument was based on a 30 1/2” scale length and used an inferior gauge of string - both of these design criteria affecting the instruments range, and making it more comparable to a baritone guitar than a bass. The registrations for the developments and inventions that Fender made are clearly the basis for the modern electric bass, and Fender's was certainly the first mass-produced instrument.

[quote name='OldGit' post='291598' date='Sep 25 2008, 10:02 AM']I wonder how much they are when they have some in stock?[/quote] It it's out of stock then you've missed the deal. Reverb will be selling Sound Control stock after the trustee in insolvency has completed the statutory formalities - and it really doesn't surprise me, as Reverb will have acquired old stock at rock-bottom prices.

[quote name='Delberthot' post='291442' date='Sep 25 2008, 07:09 AM']Victor Wooten - that's the fellow Amazing what a couple of hours sleep can do for the brain[/quote] At first I thought you meant Les Claypool - who used a Carl Thompson piccolo bass - in standard tuning. (Well, why wouldn't you?!) But good old Victor Wooten did use Foderas.

Thank you! I needed a good laugh before I went to bed.