TimR

This interview demonstrates exactly how people, especially the press, have a desire or need to stereotype and generalise. Everytime he makes a statement she tries to strawman him and generalise something, he then has to point out he is describing specific behaviours by people in specific situations. This is akin to having a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail. Say something has female qualities and you're being sexist... And say something is masculine and you're excluding women from being able to do it. Which is plainly nonsense. Sometimes you need to look in your toolbox and decide whether you should be using a hammer to bang in screws.

Indeed. Many women in the bass and baritone sections? I'm sure we can all name some very famous tennors and sopranos?

It means quicker recognition of targets and threats and less human soldiers in the line of fire.

It could, but it's entirely down to context. The problem is you throw the baby out with the bathwater. Those are examples where those terms are used in a pejorative context. Look at any choir and tell me which are the male parts and which are the female parts.

Presumably your company pay you a wage. Are they responsible for the tunes you play at gigs?

Birds of prey live solo, and occasionally in pairs. Humans live in a structured society. Part of what gives that structure is we have stereotypes. If people try to conform to stereotypes (they can't, and some people are desperate to), or other people try to pigeonhole people according to stereotypes, then you have serious issues. Language and stereotypes are not the issue. Knee jerk solutions to perceived problems by well meaning people are not going to fix those problems in the way they think they will.

Except that he doesn't. And neither did I. As Lozz says. That was one point I made since we are taking about that aspect of masculinity in this thread. But you'll find that is exactly what his detractors want you to think.

I assume there was some kind of eye contact and/or other signalling of the changes. As unless you're mind readers, if no one knows where you are in the song it's never going to work. Assuming lyrics and more than one chord.

They do. And many don't. We are one species that doesn't. That has nothing to do with religion or Peterson. If an average human man went toe to toe with an average human girl. My money wouldn't be on the girl. And I'm pretty sure we had huge protest in London about this very fact, lead by women who seem to feel somewhat at risk from men.

Not really. I guess clearly there are a load of people who don't want to hear it either. I'm not really bothered. I watch people's behaviour I've not seen anything that contradicts what he says. Only people who don't like to believe men and women are different.

The ones where men are on a normal distribution bigger, stronger and more prone to violence than women normally are. Look in the animal world and you'll see the same behaviours. You can pretend we are not animals. But all you're doing is pretending.

You can try and change words but you'll never change innately programmed behaviours. Which is what JP keeps pointing out, but no one wants to hear. All you're doing is slapping a coat of paint on what has structurally been built over millions of years.

Not always. I think it's like any relationship, you think if you work at it enough the other person may sort themselves out... It's only with experience you learn to spot the signs early.

I think we've all left bands, been chucked out of bands, been replaced, have bands fall apart on us. It's the nature of the beast. You'd never grow as a musician if you didn't move around and play differrnt music with different musicians. Just have to see it as an opportunity to try something new.

I think Guy Pratt summed it up quite well: "If you don't like bass players with strong political views, you picked the wrong band. If you think I'm bad, you should see the other fella."

No. I thought he meant that the bass and drums were large heavy sections like men and the other instruments were light and delicate like women.

Except that was exactly what he meant.

I thought men could now be seen as a bit girly as well nowadays. Not sure why being a man is positive and being a girl is negative. Even in this situation. Isn't a man being a man and a girl being a girl something that should be celebrated anymore? I have no problem with girls being manly or girls being girly. Or men being girly or manly. But I do know what manly and girly mean. Gender stereotypes are just that. Stereotypes. Music is all about sex anyway.

The band I was having trouble with went through 4 bass players in very quick secession after I left. Stand back and watch. Eventually he'll realise what the common denominator is (probably after enough people have told him) and sort himself out.

I played in a band for a long time where I was made to feel like the bad guy. I played a load of dep gigs and found another band, and realised it wasn't my timing and never had been.

@GreeneKing I wonder if the rest of his life is as chaotic and disorganised. Maybe talk to the drummer who seems to have some kind of understanding. But if it's all done and dusted, good luck with the next project and maybe you can spot this kind of behaviour earlier if you come across it again.

It's very difficult to read a 10page thread when you arrive late to the party. I was just asking for an update really. But, I've that's an accurate precis, mind reading is a very tough gig.

I can't even work out what way it ended. I guess that was the OP's problem with most of the songs. 😆

It's a long thread. Was it odd bars he was adding in or extra 4, 8 or 16 bar phrases. Assuming if the rhythm guitarist was struggling too it sounds like he was just going off and expecting you to follow. If you want to lead people and expect them to follow, you have to give some kind of directions.

It will depend on each individual song. The first step is to realise that you won't get those songs to sound like the original. If you're all inexperienced, you'll need to sit down together and work out what guitar parts are 'essential' to the song. The guitarist may enjoy playing all the intricate 'fill in' lead parts but a lot of the time they're just that and the meat and gravy is with him taking more of a rhythm role. Pumping out 8th or 16th notes on the bass will fill most songs but needs to be used sparingly. What songs in particular sound empty?