TimR

I have a PA I'm selling. 2x15" Peavey Pro speakers and PV1500 amp. Together with Soundcraft Spirit Folio 16. Reverb and EQ in a mixer flight case. It's pretty heavy in the case. Would be better to split the items.

Thanks. I'm not sure I've used the date part either other than when I've been struggling with my tone and checked the date and realised they really could do with changing.

I bet he never played anything the same way twice. Those Bob Marley songs don't have two single bars the same. 🤣 Ome great lines, impossible to emulate. Didn't he have 100+ kids or something? Edit: 31. That's why they called him family man. 🤣

Take them off. Put them in the packet the new ones came in. Write the date on the packet. Put in gig bag as 'ready cut' spares. Never broken a string but guess there's a first time. Look at packet already in gig bag, wonder at the date. Put them in the massive box of old strings*... 🤣 *no. I throw them in the recycling. Do we have a benevolent bass strings thread where we give old strings that may have a little bit of life in them to old retired jazzers?

This was kind of the purpose of the thread. I don't think a lot of bands understand the importance of the bass player (yes, I know, I would say that). Every band has that function, from orchestras, choirs, electronic music. It's not something you can just bolt on and expect to work. And I'm increasing led to belive that the bass "chooses you", or more subtly bass players are attracted to bass as it suits their mindset.

It's not the studio's fault if the gear is knackered. Testing everything after every band has been in never happens and then chasing bands for busted gear is never going to happen. Many years ago I found a Trace Elliot 4x10 where every driver was torn. How does that happen without the bass player hearing it? They swapped the cab out for me.

Our local studio has an Orange Terror and an orange 1x12" cab. It looks tiny and when I walked in and saw it I regretted not bringing my amp and cab. But it's a serious bit of kit for something so small!

What did you do?

Only at the weekends.

He wore his 'Nazi Memorobillia' for a photo shoot in Germany to promote a gig. Which is illegal there.

What have I started... I saw Metallica and Anthrax at Donington in 1987. The mosh was crazy. It was raining, clouds of steam were rising from the crowd and the smell of damp leather and p... filled the air. I think I may have a Panterra and a Dokken vinyl LP somewhere.

They're playing Donnington in June.

That's the monster part. Imagine being the directors of a company where you're also the product. If you don't want to produce the product what happens to you, and your employees. Well, if you're multimillionaire and the company is worth millions, you pay everyone off and move on if you're sensible. But the pressure to keep the company running must be huge.

Most of these heavy music musicians are well past retirement age and spend more time on the golf course complaining about the kids driving the golf carts into the water hazards. A far cry from when they were driving their Rolls Royces into swimming pools. At some point it doesn't make sense to do the things we used to do as teenagers any more. But what do you do if that's all you have ever done?

What about Motorhead and Lemmy?

Are you guys expecting members of a Thrash Metal band to own kittens and spend their time shopping for soft furnishings?

You're right. No one* other than people who buy and sell instruments or keep an eye on prices have even a ball park idea of what they're worth or cost initially. But the thread is really about a bass player buying a bass. So it's quite important in that respect. *Of course that's the old joke: I hope my wife doesn't sell my basses for what I told her I paid for them.

I had the same from a guitarist over From Out of Nowhere by Faith No More. I think it's just someone assuming it's not possible. Both previous bass players had always used a pick. Newstead only uses a pick.

That bit was a bit odd. I don't think any of them can have a grasp on reality anymore. Maybe they have the same insecurities as anyone who relies on their creative output to earn a living. What happens if I can't write another good tune? The bit when Lars realised Newstead's band were out gigging and drawing a sizeable crowd, while Metallica didn't even know if their singer was ever going to return let alone record or even gig.

Yes. There's certainly a lot of control being exercised by whoever is in the driving seat at any point in time. Typical band...

It's on Netflix at the moment. A very interesting 2 part - 2 hours each - documentary following the band. Some very emotional scenes from Dave Moustaine - anyone who's been asked to leave a band and then followed them from a distance may relate. But my overwhelming view from the 1st hour was getting rid of Jason Newstead almost destroyed them. Without a bass player the whole band seemed to lack something. Not withstanding the issues Hetfeild was going through, that probably were instrumental in the treatment of Jason, a new bass player sooner should have been their main focus. Or is a bass player someone who just plays what the guitarist tells them to? 😉

I was looking at it as an average. Maybe I should have looked at it as an exponential thing. I recon Scott Devine and Ian Allison must own several hundred between them and judging by the number of people enrolling in their course they must be 1%ers*. 🤣 *but the nice kind... I have 3 basses. That must put me slightly above average.

They're only buying 1% of the basses. I don't think they're influencing prices of basses in any serious way.

I was just pointing out where inequality in general has come from. I'm not talking about the top 1% inequality that skews it. I'm talking about the top 25% who are earning over the mean wage. The people on £40k+. And the odd person on £80k who thinks they're normal. The top 25% didn't sit around and wait for cost of living rises.

When you're taking about inequal wages. One thing that is ofter conveniently overlooked is that they're not age weighted or sex weighted. At the risk of being called a sexist - pureIy from observation I would expect a large number of women and students to be working in retail as they offer very good flexible hours which suit childcare and study. I would also expect someone leaving school not to be stepping into a CEO role with a 6 figure salary, and I would expect a number of people in their 50s to be earning 3-4x that of a school leaver. Last year I met up with a load of guys who I was with at school 30 years ago. Some of them were still doing the jobs they left school to do. I'm always of the mind that if you ask for a raise, you have to be bringing something extra to the table, that isn't just a cost of living rise. Some of us have moved jobs, companies and even careers during that time. We all started out with the same age and the same education but are no longer equal. Anyway that's for off topic. Of all those present* I own the most basses and the most expensive bass. So guess I'm doing OK. *I was also the only bass player - so a win there as well.