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Exactly! Unless you go for an open bar attitude and make yourself feel ill.

I think the combined DI/Preamp thing might just not be for me because after a few more days mucking about with the VT Deluxe I've found it still has some of the same issues as other DI/Preamps in how it plays with other pedals. One example is I want Fuzz and Chorus un-affected by the VT preamp because it muffles the Fuzz a bit- but with the VT Deluxe it's impossible to have a preset with a true clean/unaffected tone (it can sound very close to a clean tone but then when you put the fuzz signal through it you realise it is always colouring it), you can bypass the VT presets and still use it as a DI but that means it's FX loop is also bypassed so to get this Fuzz>Chorus>DI combination with no VT preamp colour the Fuzz and Chorus can't go in the VT FX loop and they can't go after the VT (as it's also the DI), so they need to be before the VT and the VT presets need to be bypassed: Fuzz>Chorus> VT Preamp & DI ....but that means it's not possible to use that Chorus after the VT preamp tones which is something I also want to be able to do. It's not a big deal and isn't unique to the VT Deluxe - in fact, it has a lot more flexibility to get around this than most combined DI/Preamp pedals but I think it's potentially a similar issue when using things like octavers and envelope filters going into modulation and delays and sometimes not wanting any preamp colouring while also wanting to be able to sometimes have preamp colouring/OD with modulation and delays after it. That's solved buy having separate DI and Preamp pedals: Fuzz>Preamp>Chorus>DI, or Fuzz>Preamp>Chorus>DI.

I got a Bass Clone today but I think that was a bit of a rash buying decision now I've used it a bit as it sounds fine but I think something like the Zoom multi-FX pedals get pretty close to the sound and it's not something I want to use all that often or do lot of tweaking to once set. I think it will be getting returned/replaced with a B1 four.

Sold a FI pedal to Bas and everything went well - you can deal with him and know it's all good.

Yeah, I don't expect they will ever be within my means...and even if they were I'm not sure I could justify spending that.

Or if you have £1k burning a hole in your pocket there's the Noble or REDDI. I think I'd expect more from them than a DI/Preamp could ever do if I spent that amount though.

Thanks, I'll open it up and to try to see if there's any clues about what the existing ones are. Oddly enough, I must have an American doppelganger as I just found that someone else was considering this about 9 years ago and didn't seem to get resolved but then someone resurrected the thread it a few weeks ago to see if it has been done (it doesn't seem to have been and Tech21 gave a warning to not try it yourself!) https://www.talkbass.com/threads/changing-led-colors-on-vt-bass-deluxe.893889/ ....still though, I'm keen!

I like preamp pedals (probably as I don't have a good amp!), they all seem to be quite different from each other as far as features/tones so there's potentially a lot to get through. I've had Sansamp BBDI v2, EBS Microbass 2, DHA VT1 EQ, Bass Simplifier, (and the smaller overdrive/preamp pedals like the Crimson Red and the Solid Gold FX Beta) and all were really good but quite different. The issue I had with all of them if using at the end of the signal chain as a preamp was how they played with other pedals e.g. you can get a great tube type overdrive tone with the BBDI but if you have something like a Fuzz or Envelope filter ahead of it lots of their tone gets muffled so you need to turn down the blend when using them and then turn it back when you want the sansamp overdrive. You can get around that knob twiddling a bit with the Bass Simplifier having 2x FX loops and the Microbass A/B (or A+B) channels and FX loop but there were certain issues with doing those things and I found myself still having to either adjust the preamp pedals depending on what other pedals were being used with them or leave them in quite neutral settings to not keep needing to fiddle about. I've just got a Sansamp VT Bass Deluxe that solves that issue for me: 6x presets all easily accessible on footswitches without menu diving, and a foot-switchable FX loop. So can do things like run an envelope filter ahead of the VT and then have a VT setting to reduce the highs and add a bit of overdrive to it, or can put Fuzz in the FX loop and have a setting so the VT feeds it more mids, or settings where the VT is running a dubby EQ or an Overdrive (it has good overdrive tones). ....probably after a few months something else will catch my eye though!

My 00Funk clone build has stalled for the time being, something's not working and I think it's where I burnt the pcb trying to remove a diode, or the other mistake I made was accidentally resting the side soldering iron on a component while I was soldering the pots on to the other side....or it could be any number of things! I'm thinking it might be best to just buy the pcb and on-board components again but will step back from it for a bit. I'm not letting that hold me back though! It has given me a taste for this hopefully simple mod: I've got a VT Deluxe and one slight issue with it is that all of the LEDs are red, I would like them to be different colours to make it more obvious what is on - particularly the A/B inputs. Given that different colour LEDs = different voltage drop I'm guessing this isn't just a case of being like changing a lightbulb though, but with Red being 1.63-2.03 volt drop and Green being within that range at 1.9-4 .00 (or Orange being close at 2.03-2.10) would it be possible to just make that swop without having to also change other things like the resistors?

Just putting this seed of an unfounded prediction out there seeing as I have a v3 and am fickle with buying/selling pedals all the time: The v1/v3 will be sought after classics and anything after them won't be as good for some reason (cost savings or availability of a certain chip or something). The v1/v3 will be like the DOD Meatbox, or original Mu-Tron III, or MF-101....prices are only going up!

If there is a pedal that says 'let's groove' on it and makes that sound I'd want it too....unfortunately I don't think there is one. You could get a second hand one of the cheaper synth pedals for a roughly similar sound (EHX Bass Micro Synth 'sub' setting, or the Boss SYB-5). But cheap bass synth pedals are pretty annoying for poor tracking and latency. Or an an octaver like the OC-2 sounds similar enough. The C4 and Future Impact are going to probably be the best for getting the sound and having good tracking and low latency, they're expensive though.

Nice one. Now I'm tempted again!

Helix Stomp and Dual Switch up for sale on here, not for any particularly good reason other than I'm fickle and must want something to do with my time! I think I just like trying out new pedals too much. (And I need to fund my new Bike & Ice Cream hobby).

That all sounds good other than me needing to find something new to do with my time other than obsessing over pedals!.... I guess that time could be spent eating ice cream and riding a bike though.

Yeah sounds reasonable. I guess the caveat is that not all pedals are created equal, supply and demand and all that, a DOD meatbox reissue had a £155 RRP about 5 years ago but their going rate now looks to be about £250.

Well that's confusing! Perhaps the next version should be v2 to keep people on their toes 😀

Yeah seems to me that the going rate for a v3 is about £190. Much more than that and I'd consider buying new at £255 to get in mint condition with warranty/returns etc. Although the v1 & 2 are technically same inside I think people would pay a bit less for them because they are obviously order and likely to have been used more (with the risk of cosmetic damage and worn footswitches etc).

Yeah, that's all true. I've never fully committed to downsizing my pedalboard so I've ended up using the Stomp to replace a few pedals rather than getting used to using it to it's full potential. I have 90% used it to replace EQ, Amp/Cab sim/DI, Chorus, Phaser, Tuner, and think it's a worthwhile investment just for that even before I use it's full potential. ....but am starting to get pedal curious again! The Stomp would sell for about £300 which could be spent on: Behringer EQ £15, NUX Melvin Lee Preamp/OD/DI/IR loader £120, Zoom MS60B £70 (for Tuner and occasional fx I don't really use like delay and reverb and additional OD), second-hand Chorus £50 & Phaser £50. = £305. That would lose a lot of the extra fx and routing options of the Stomp (but I do already have an EHX Switchblade Pro which partly covers the loop switcher stuff and mixing and order switching) and would take up a lot more board space, but it gains the footswitches and hands-on controls and modular style of replacing pedals as and when (which if I'm honest- is something I'm quite in to!).