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Ah yeah, it's EWS I meant for the mid-control. The stormy bass drive looks good too - now added to my shopping list!

What are your favourite mini (1590A) pedals? They are generally on the budget side of things, but a few like the Cog and MXR and One Control pedals are mid-price, while some like the Aguilar and Fairfield compressors cost up to £200. I'm going to make a pedalbaord of them while trying to stick with a £420 budget (the price I just sold my Helix Stomp XL for - I know, I'm fickle!), so I'll need mostly 2nd hand and I might not be able to get every effect type on the list. This is my shopping list: Tuner: Swiff Octaver: Cog T-16, Markbass Octaver, MXR M280 Envelope Filter: There don't seem to be many good ones in mini size but Malekko, Mooer, and Joyo do them. Synth: Bananana Matryoshka and Mooer E7 EQ: Sasouri 7 band or the EWS mid control Overdrive: Cog Mini 66, Mooer and Joyo pedals Fuzz: Plenty to choose from Modulation: Mooer Mod Factory Mk2 Phaser: MXR Phase 95 Preamp: One Control - Crimson Red, Blue 360, Silver Peg Compressor: Spectracomp, Becos mini, Wampler Ego mini, Fairfield Circuitry The Accountant , Pigtronix, Aguilar DB 599. Cab sim: Mooer Radar DI: Xvive, Radial Of those I've only tried the Sasouri EQ (it works fine but tiny amounts on the sliders can make a big difference and can be quite noisy if boosting treble), One Control Crimson Red (one of my favorite pedals - instant dubbyness). I've just ordered a Swiff tuner and a Mooer Mod Factory and I might get the Malekko filter that's for sale in the classifieds. Any other recommendations?

I think the mini synth pedal choices are limited to the Bananana Matryoshka or the Mooer E7 and they seem fairly different: From the demos I've heard the Mooer seems better suited to ambient pad type and arpeggiated stuff and has 7x slots to store presets, the Matryoshka has no presets and costs double but seems better for solid synth Bass and bit-crushed kind of sounds.

I'd avoid cheap ones that don't have indivuidually isolated outputs (they can make pedals noisy), and if you're relying on it to power all your pedals at gigs it's probably worth spending that bit extra for something reliable. The Harley Benton ISO 10AC has worked well for me, it's £95 so on the mid-range cost of these things but has all of the things more expensive ones have: 10 individually isolated power points (some cheaper ones don't have each output individually isolated but still sell as 'isolated' power supply), no noise. Also a USB power out. 9/12/18v options for 4 of the outputs (each 450mA). And they are switches- I always think the ones with small pots to turn are asking for trouble. High current (500mA) for two of the outputs so can do things like combine them to power a Helix Stomp, and four are 250mA. It's got standard kettle lead to power it which I think it a big positive as it's a tough and standard sort of cable that's easily replaced and isn't a massive lump to carry about, and it's easy to get longer ones etc. or if it gets forgotten at a gig it's likely there will be another one around. Fairly low profile to go under pedalboards. There is a slightly cheaper Harley Benton ISO 12 which initially seems better seeing as it has 12x outputs but it doesn't have a kettle lead to power it, doesn't have USB power out, and it has the LEDs on top which could make sticking it flush under a pedalboard a hassle.

I reckon a whole board of mini (1590A) pedals would be cool. Something like this: Tuner: Korg Pitchblack mini Octaver: Cog T-16 Envelope Filter: There don't seem to be many good ones in mini size but Malleko, Mooer, and Joyo do them. (any recommendations?) Synth: Bananana Matryoshka (perhaps this would also covers octaver and filter stuff) EQ: Sasouri 7 band or EWS BMC, or Sine Effect micro Para Overdrive: Cog Mini 66, or Mooer and Joyo pedals Fuzz: Plenty to choose from Phaser: MXR Phase 95 Chorus: The usual suspects of Mooer and Joyo, but also Ibanez, TC Electronic and plenty of others. Preamp: One Control - Crimson Red, Blue 360, Silver Peg Compressor: Spectracomp or Becos mini, Wampler Ego, Pigtronix DI: Xvive, Mooer, Radial It's not a sensible or rational choice as even if I could get them for an average of £50 each that's about £600 which is a couple of hundred more than I'd sell my Helix Stomp XL for - and it'd probably be less functional/convenient and take up more space once considering things like power supply.......still though, I'm quite keen. After all, making music and mucking about twith effects on Bass isn't exactly the most rational and sensible thing to spend time and money doing!

It's a tube screamer type overdrive which are generally a mid boosted sort of sound and sometimes said to lose lows (perhaps relatively - as the mids have been enhanced). I had the green rhino mk5 and it's good at keeping the lows though. There's an internal switch so the 'freq' control can cut/boost 12dB of either 100Hz or 500Hz, so at 100Hz it can be used for a big Bass boost. I had it switched to 500Hz though as it didn't seem to lose the lows enough to need the 100Hz boosted and I liked having that extra mid control. It's one of the best overdrive/distortion pedals I've owned and I'd get it again.

I'm looking forward to the Source Audio C4 XL (or whatever it gets called) which seems like it'll be a C4 with expanded hardware.

From one of my favorite albums - in no small part down to the Basslines (and co-production) courtesy of Robbie Shakespeare

Robbie Shakespeare's definitely the most influential Bass player for my playing and producing and I'm pretty certain I've spent many more hours listening to his basslines than anyone else's, they are a lesson in everything I find great about the sound that a Bass guitar can make and how it can drive a song without needing to be flashy. When I think about it, he's probably had quite a big impact on my life in general - possibly more than any other musician. So yeah, I'm gutted about this. RIP.

Nice one, that's it! Big tune. I had it in my head and spent about half an hour going through tunes to try and find it - was really bugging me.

Can anyone I'd this bassline? It's dubby, has horns. Voice 001_sd.m4a

Yeah, unless it's a particularaly cheap Bass then I've always gone to collect seeing as they are quite big/heavy and relatively delicate things to be posting around and are quite valuable, and there's always the chance of them not working properly so I'd prefer to try before buying. The same goes in reverse for selling second hand, I'd prefer not to put it to chance of getting lost or broken in the post of the buyer deciding that a small scratch means they want a refund etc.

I suppose in the end it worked out but certainly wasn't as straight forward and hassle free as returns to shops like Andertons or GAK. I'd probably avoid using Bax if I thought there was much chance of wanting to return the product for a refund.

My Bax purchases/delivery have always been fine. It took a fair bit of chasing-up over quite a few weeks to get a refund on a return once though - it came through in the end though.

I suppose half heartedly posting on Basschat for the sake of argument isn't quite on the same level of sailing to America to talk at the UN and dedicating my life to it.....not far off though!

Yep. It should be considered to a certain extent. But that's a falacious argument. The question I'm putting forward is: Does owning lots of basses damage the environment and should it be a consideration in how many basses you chose to own? Saying 'other things damage the environment too' or 'you damage the environment too' doesn't answer that question.

An interesting side-note to today's diversion is that I suggested in a half-hearted and un-personalised way that as well as the 'er indoors and financial considerations already given to the 'How many Basses' question is that perhaps the environment should also be a consideration when thinking about how much un-necessary stuff (Basses or otherwise) is consumed, and the whole attitude to over-consumption and obtaining lots of unnecessary 'stuff' is a bit dated. It's unexpectedly given me a small glimpse into the world of Greta with a few of the responses being summarised as: Atack the messanger rather than the message: Lighten up and take a joke. Stop being a hypocrite, and stop putting your middle class guilt on me. Attack the message but not with facts - with fatalism and 'keep business as usual' to avoid making inconvenient changes: I could stop buying certain things but what about the economy. What I do doesn't count enough to consider changing my actions. ...and of course plently of well-reasoned logical responses pointing out that amount of Basses you own shouldn't be very high on the list of priorities if you want to help the planet. (Which I agree with, it's mostly the principle of over-consumption that I'm debating, I'm debating really is that in a thread of 'how much unnecessary additional stuff should I own' perhaps people should at least consider the environmental impact as well as the impact from your wife's foot).

The point is that it's everything that needs to be considered - including things that seem insignificant like Laubndry Basksts and Basses, because it all adds up.

Fancy. Are you known as '2 baskets'? Too late, it already has!

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This is all true, and like I say - I'm mostly saying things for arguments sake and I certainly have lots of un-necessery stuff. Having multiple Basses is going to be very low down the list of un-necessary things that damage the planet, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered at all. It's more about overall attitudes to consuming I'm on about, I think the 'look at all the 'stuff' I have accumulated will become quite an old-fashioned attitude over time. On the second-hand thing, like I said earlier - if you buy a million second-hand Basses it just means there is now demand for a million more Basses to be produced as a million have been made un-available to others. It's good that a Bass is something that lasts and can get traded onwards but buying a second hand one doesn't mean there's no environmental impact....admittedly it makes the impact much lower than if they had a short single-use lifespan and I doub't even Thunberg would say people shouldn't get a second hand Bass because of the environment, she might say people should consider the enviromnment a bit in their consumer decisions though, and perhaps that it should be a consideration when looking to get that 20th Bass to sit on your wall - partly for the environment and partly due to changing attitudes about over-consumption.