warwickhunt

2 hours ago, Chienmortbb said:

I wonder whether the X32 rack is overkill for your needs. As has been suggested, there will be a steep learning curve and many features that you do not need. 
 

Why not go for a CQ20. You already know the basic CQ philosophy. The only limitation as far as I can see it 6 six outs. That is only a problem if everyone wants a separate stereo mix. 

If it were up to me I'd likely manage with my CQ12; sometimes we'll not get drum feeds and it has 6 outs.  However, a couple of the band want to future proof our needs and feel that the £677 X32 is the way forward.  Oddly nobody wants a stereo IE feed so I'll likely be the only one doing so.  

12 minutes ago, Phil Starr said:

What @mike257 describes sounds like heaven, probably in more ways thatn one. For most of us the 'Festival' is a beer festival, a charity event or an overgrown village fete which has grown from one local band using their own PA to a multi band event with a hired in PA. Often the PA has been set up by a hire firm but the organisers have saved money by not hiring a sound engineer. Typically you come across a couple of blokes who have no idea of how the PA was set up and are scared to touch anything. They'll spend 20 mins plugging things in at random and line checking then huddle down by the desk with no sound check staring at all the scary knobs whose function eludes them. @warwickhunts  'can you start your set know' sounds very familiar.

Our most recent one at the weekend was 2 days, 3 stages, 30 bands, 10,000 people... and 20 minute turnarounds!    

6 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

 

Sure thing. I thought you also had a A&H CQ12, but I might have got that wrong? And was thinking that you would have an easy option using that.

You are 100% correct but this particular band wants a self contained unit, added to which my CQ is a 12... which is tight for channels.  

5 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

If you set your A&H CQ monitor feeds on pre fade won't that give your IEM mixes isolation from whatever the sound engineer is doing with the FoH mix, and problem sorted? Or am I missing something obvious?

@Al Krow It's actually going to be an X32 Rack but we'll have a splitter in front of it; 1 feed to 'our' X32 to mix as we see fit and a 2nd feed (dry) to the FOH.  

@mike257 Sadly we've done a few (fake) festivals/theatre gigs lately where even the basics of giving us a rough FOH mix to our IEM (relayed in a tech spec to organisation/engineers month before) has been abysmal.  I get that they have 6 bands in 9 hours to go through but little point in asking us for a tech spec if we get told 'Sorry, can't give you IE feeds.  You'll need to have what we can give you in the monitors... Oh and can you start your set 'now' (this being when 2 members haven't had a line check and all of our gear is DI no backline)!"  It is a tough job but we can't keep turning up to get 2nd rate foldback mixes when we've individually spent thousands on modellers and IE systems.     

9 minutes ago, JPJ said:

It does give you the option of using AES50 for a digital split if the FOH is also using an x32 product. 

Never mind that I'm already considering that in a 20 minute change over (+ line check), we're not going to have time to route 5 vocal mics and the drum mics via our system... could be £1200-£1500 for something that a lot of these gigs are just not going to be able to accommodate.

Does anyone ( @mike257 ) know what the standard procedure is if a band rocks up with a racked 16 ch splitter and X32 and wants / needs the 5 vocal mics and drums routed through our system... in a 20-30 min turnaround?   

2 hours ago, JPJ said:

A few more inputs (if you add a stage box) as the x32 has er 32 channels available whereas the XR18 has 16 plus the usual stereo channel hence the ‘18’. You will have a lot more routing options in the x32 but with it a much steeper learning curve. Same with effects, but if you are only using the desk for IEM’s that shouldn’t be an issue.

You’re more than welcome to come and have a play with my XR18 if you want before you commit to the x32? 

The messages coming through to me from the band are that we'll be buying the X32 Rack.   

In my head I'm wondering about some form of ambient mic near the kit @Phil Starr

What are we losing by going the XR18 @JPJ as opposed to X32?

Resurrection time...  After experiences at a festival yesterday we are absolutely going for this.  

X32 Rack                                                   £677

MS8000                                                     £114 (pair) 

6U case                                                     £100

18 short XLR/XLR loom (splitters > X32) £39

3m 16 XLR/XLR (splitter > FOH)              £60

Total                                                          £990

My only reservations are: getting PA engineers to mic/supply us feeds of the drums to our Splitter > X32, positioning of the unit so that we can run feeds from X32 to our 'individual' IE transmitters (we all play in other bands so it is not practicable to rack all 6 transmitters).  

Absolutely no need to worry about the ratings or the pairing of the amp/cab; generally the biggest/only worry or consideration is not getting the impedance wrong i.e. plugging a pair of 4 ohm cabs (which is 99% sure to be 2 ohms) into an amp that is rated down to 4 ohms minimum.

3rd Eye Stage - Sunday 14:55

It used to be that certain RM services only compensated up to multiples of the postage cost but the detail was in the small print T&Cs.

Another Google calendar advocate but one band that I am in insists on using 'Timetree' app.  It does the job with no issues but Google is just convenient for across devices.

1 hour ago, dmccombe7 said:

Sounds good and curious what the bass is ?

Dave

Good old (new) Sandberg Cali in metallic orange.

19 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

 

Depends what platform you are on. If it was recorded with an iOs thing, such as an iPhone, you can just rotate it with the rotate tool in photos. I assume if you are using another platform, similar tools are available. But you probably need to trim the 'pre-rotate' part of the video anyway!

Ta,I'll go back to the original video taker and ask if they can do that.   

How do you reorientate videos?  LOL

Ultimately if you are a business you'd be obligated to stand by whatever the relevant legal statutes are in any given situation, which could be in your favour under certain circumstances.  I have to say that if I'd bought a bass from a shop/business and a fault had developed in 2 weeks I'd not be impressed and I'd not be accepting any assumption/assertion that it was my fault.  Would I be entitled to a full refund... I don't know but as it wasn't my fault and if I'd lost faith that the product wasn't fit for purpose, I'd not be accepting that I'd be losing £50 for something that is a verifiable issue (being brutal in my interpretation).  

I'm afraid that if you are going to do this as a business you are going to be encountering all sorts of individuals some of whom could well be awkward and it's a part of the 'job' that you'll need to develop a skill for.

I am in 3 full bands (bass) and 2 duos (guitar in one, bass in other).  I learn my stuff and expect others will do likewise; if someone was patently putting in less than me 'with no genuine justifiable reason' I'd be letting them know.  Lots of those band members are in other bands but when it comes to gigs, it's dead easy; EVERYONE, regardless of the band they are in, has to honour the gig that goes in first!  Regardless of how good the gig is that someone subsequently gets, the first gig in the diary takes precedence.  

22 minutes ago, wateroftyne said:

 

Bootleg Eagles. Fairly new on the block.

Johnny come lately... the new kid in town!

55 minutes ago, shoulderpet said:

Also do you normally get a selection of different size tips? I am a little reluctant to fork out for iems only to find that they don't fit and are letting in a load of outside noise

Yes as others have said you get different size buds/tips BUT... that isn't the only factor for good fit/isolation.  I tried three different sets of IEs before I found the Senn IE100 was the best fit for me; KZs were too heavy on the outside of my ear and skewed the fit so they leaked (regardless of type or size of tip).  Just saying! 

If I hadn't just shelled out for a brand new German Cali VS4 I'd have had this!  

25 minutes ago, ardi100 said:

Thanks, they look perfect, but how do you scroll through patches?

@PinkMohawk as on about the later version.  The original version (still quite recent), you simply select the patches you want (scoll and click) and then they are set to be accessed sequentially when you simply step on the centre button.  You can make up to 50 patches/presets so I duplicate my EQ patch and place it in between each 'effect' patch.

EQ>Flanger>EQ>OD>EQ>Octave

It's easier to create/do than it is to describe!  LOL

Zoom MS60B £50-60 used... it'll do everything you need and more.

Clearly a Gibson... it says so!  

Silent Guitar with Nylon Strings Body: Mahogany Neck: Mahogany Frame: Maple / Rosewood (Dalbergia latifolia) Fretboard and bridge: Rosewood (Dalbergia latifolia) 19 Frets Scale: 650 mm Nut width: 50 mm String spacing: 11.5 mm SRT piezo pickup SRT mic modelling preamp system (Neumann U67) Controls: Power, Master Volume, AUX in volume, bass, treble, tuner, blend, smooth control effects (Reverb 1, Reverb 2, Chorus) Weight: 2.1 kg Colour: Natural wood Soft bag

Thanks to it’s near silent playing, this guitar is great for everything, practicing, gigging and in the studio. And with a collapsible body you can sling the SLG on your back, jump on a train or in your car and take this guitar with you whenever, wherever. The nylon strings will give you that flamenco, jazz or classical sound, and the SRT-Powered pickup system sounds warm and natural. It will take the pain out of live work too, unlike an acoustic guitar you don’t have to worry about feedback.

Here’s what Yamaha say about the SLG200NW. The Yamaha SLG is the perfect instrument for practice, travel or stage use – any time an acoustic guitar just won’t do. Near-silent performance makes discrete practice simple, Yamaha’s exclusive SRT-Powered pickup system gives incredibly natural acoustic tone through headphones or line-out, studio-quality on-board effects enhance your playing to perfection, line-in functionality makes jamming easy and Yamaha’s 50 years of building amazing guitars means it plays like a dream. Coupled with unique, striking looks and a rosewood and maple framed full-size collapsible body SLG lets you play whenever and wherever inspiration hits.

It was bought with the intention of being a travel guitar for busking/gigging with a portable PA but has been played 3 times in the house before I realised I may as well stick with my regular Yamaha acoustic. Still retails today for £699 massive saving as it is indistinguishable from new (gig bag has never been out of the wrapper), original cardboard box is even here.