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Behringer seems to have acquired that particular cachet enjoyed by Skoda cars back in the 80s. In my experience, quite undeserved - I've owned several bits of Behringer kit over the years, and none has ever let me down, whereas some big name gear I can remember...

Not having a tuner out socket, I use the 'send' of my effects loop for my tuner, a little Korg tabletop one that just sits on top of the amp. I have a pedal tuner as well, but the Korg is honestly more convenient - less cables snaking around the stage can only be a good thing

[quote name='icastle' post='1162402' date='Mar 14 2011, 09:21 PM']That would depend on how Proel have defined their '500W'. If they've done it 'Behringer style' then in real terms those cabs are probably about 120W each.[/quote] Don't exaggerate The Behringer B215D powered cab is rated at 550 Behringer watts (peak power in other words) and 345W RMS. Having said that, I do wish manufacturers in general (not just Behringer) would quote power as RMS into 4 ohms, and into 8 ohms, and then we'd all know where we stood

[quote name='Bucket Head' post='1161686' date='Mar 14 2011, 12:59 PM']yea ok ill have a look and see if i can find any info about that on their site, i suppose i cud try it, it has a sticker on the back that says "london guitar aid" which is a repair company so maybe he alredy changed the transformer bit :S i cud just plug it in and try i suppose buut wud be lame if it blew up ;(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((([/quote] Please don't just plug it in anyway - it really is very likely indeed to blow up Do you have a friendly local music shop with a repair service? I know if it were mine, I could take it in to my usual place and they'd check it out free of charge, and give me a price for a decent working internal repair. If you could do that, then you'd have a solid place to start considering your options...

Excellent, pro quality kit. Specs [url="http://www.swrsound.com/support/manuals/html/basicblackom.php"]here[/url]. Well worth the cost replacing the transformer, or the cost and inconvenience of an external one. If you got this at usual car boot prices, you've nabbed a real bargain

[quote name='tomb' post='1153771' date='Mar 8 2011, 01:43 PM']I live in a small island where all you can find is Marshal, Roland and and occasionally ENGL... and bass combos are really hard to come by here with decent power, i generally stop seeing combos at 60w... except for Roland, but they are way to expensive for me[/quote] Then I think you could do a lot worse than give one a try - it'll probably be among the meatiest bass rigs on the island and yes, the BP150 has had some very good reviews. Come to think of it, I've not read a bad one...

Never tried one, but the local(ish) music shop where I buy 90% of my kit, and who have never let me down on anything technical, sell them. I asked about them, seeing that they looked quite smart and were so cheap, and they said they were not at all bad, good tone, quite loud for their rating - but they found they needed to give them a going over before they put them on sale, just to tighten up the odd loose bit, and so forth. Might be as well to try and find one in stock at a place you trust, rather than simply buying one online?

Just noticed that the Selmer Goliath 50 cab in the linked picture used the Audiom 91, rather than the 90. Don't recall having had the back off mine to be able to tell you which it had. Not sure how the 91 differed from the Audiom 90, except cosmetically - same power rating and impedance.

Many years ago I had a Selmer Goliath reflex cab with one of these drivers. (There was a 100W model as well.) No idea what yours is worth, but it's an absolute classic, and if anyone had a Goliath or similar with a blown speaker, I imagine they'd be very interested indeed. Here's an original [url="http://www.vintagehofner.co.uk/selmer/speakers/spk19.html"]50W Goliath[/url], with pic of driver. Here's a later [url="http://www.vintagehofner.co.uk/selmer/speakers/spk13.html"]100W Goliath[/url] with an Audiom 100 driver. Not that the cab pics help you - just me being nostalgic

I keep meaning to try on of these [url="http://www.ampeg.com/products/classic/microvr/index.html"]Ampeg Classic Series Micro VR[/url] stacks. (There isn't a convenient local Ampeg dealer that I know of...) Very good reviews, e.g. in Bass Guitar Magazine, especially with 2 of the SVT210 cabs. The head weighs 10lbs, and the cabs 25lbs each. OK, it's 'only' 200 watts, but I wouldn't be too surprised if my trouser legs flapped just a little with those 4 10s in a vertical line!

Vox Bassmaster - red plywood short-scale 2-pickup thing. 1965. Bought brand new in Camden Road, Tunbridge Wells. Very nearly put me off playing bass altogether.

Seems a fair price - I've seen one go for £350 just the other week. With the flight case it's probably a minor bargain!

I say, what remarkable tosh, old chap! Being an old un, I have (un)happy memories of a certain [url="http://www.vintagehofner.co.uk/selmer/speakers/spk15.html"]Selmer Goliath[/url]... Maybe that's why I and my back find lightweight rigs such a fascinating subject these days...?

[quote name='Lifer' post='1141042' date='Feb 25 2011, 12:08 PM']Think I'm gonna take my bass down to GAK and try the sansamp through a few active speakers, they've got the behringer cab mentioned in the article you posted but also a few other brands.[/quote] "Just listen.." Let us know how it goes, won't you?

[quote name='Lifer' post='1139742' date='Feb 24 2011, 11:28 AM']Would the Mackie TH-15As be equivalent to that Behringer cabinet? Don't know much about PA stuff[/quote] Very similar - both 1x15 + horn, bi-amped. Only difference I can see is the Behringer has 2 x Class D amps, and the Mackie a Class D LF amp and an A/B treble amp. Less power, too. The Mackie's quoted at 400W peak, 200W (150W + 50W) RMS; the Behringer's 550W peak, 345W (280W + 65W) RMS. Behringer's max 126dB SPL @ 1m, Mackie's 116dB @ 1m. Dunno about prices - depends where you go I imagine. Under £300 a pop, anyway - both seem to be selling for around £250-£270 each on discount at places like Studiospares and Andertons. I've used a BDI21 for a couple of years through PA systems with similar enclosures, and I have to say the result's very convincing...

[quote name='spinynorman' post='1139990' date='Feb 24 2011, 02:22 PM']I have one bass that works for anything I do, whoever I'm playing with, whatever type of music. It's a Fender Precision, one passive pickup...[/quote] +1 ! I never play anything other than my 70RI Precision these days. Does everything I want a bass to do, and then some. And that irreplaceable sound I do use the tone control, though, all the time, even with flatwounds!

I think inline (Fender-style) tuners probably don't help (which is why some modern Fenders advertise their use of lightweight ones) but also the length of the top horn. Counter-intuitively, I reckon a long top horn minimises neck dive, especially on the strap (its the position of the strap button, isn't it?) but for some reason it seems to help on the lap too. Or is that just me? My Indie IB604 (5-piece maple/ebony neck, side by side tuners, vaguely Ibanez Soundgear-type body shape): perfect balance. You can take your hands right off, and even on the lap it just sits there. My Fender 70RI Precision - perfect on the strap, but dives for the floor as soon as you let go if it's on the lap. Saying that, the Fender obviously has a high-gloss urethane finish, but the Indie has an oiled swamp ash body, so less slippery by a long way!

There's an [url="http://www.behringer.com/EN/Community/my-very-novel-bass-rig/"]interesting article[/url] by Fred Cockfield about this kind of rig. He's talking about Behringer kit, but you can extrapolate what he's saying to SansAmp - the BDI21 is at least SansAmp-inspired, as its name suggests, after all. Seems to work for him...

To the OP, in support of Essex - I've been shocked at the difference in what I thought was my sound merely by taking a long lead from my bass and stepping down (at a rehearsal I hasten to add!) to hear my amp from a distance. Even more so when I've done it in situations (e.g. at church) where FOH sound is coming over the PA via sansamp. It's actually been v reassuring - much better sound than I'd imagined! Pete is right about Stingrays - just like their ancestor the P-Bass they are far more versatile than they have any right to be, both in terms of tone and of dynamic range. Just listen to the different sounds Gail Ann Dorsey gets from her Marilyn! Those two (Stringray and P-Bass) are perhaps the most finger-responsive, least knob-twiddling basses out there. But the JB is close, surely. Must be a Leo Fender thing

I meant RB8, the 1x15" job. (Edited post to correct myself!) It has a decent 8ohm extension speaker out, which is a good thing, especially at this price point. And GAK have the 2x10" RB7 reduced to £366 at the moment, £3 less than the RB8. That has to be a bargain!

[quote name='thodrik' post='1130918' date='Feb 17 2011, 12:55 PM']I was aware of that, but isn't the title of the thread for the 715?[/quote] Sorry! Knowing the 715x I just mentally inserted the 'x'. You're quite right - the 715 is a lot cheaper, and a lot less amp. I hadn't realised the 715x was more than twice the price... that puts a different complexion on the OP's question for sure. For that money there are plenty of alternatives with at least as good a spec, aren't there? Ashdown, GK, Laney (the RB8's a darn good, unjustly neglected, amp, as is its 2x10 cousin (RB7?))...

[quote name='thodrik' post='1130494' date='Feb 17 2011, 12:29 AM']I think that the new 715 trace elliots have been discontinued, I'm sure if you shop about you could get one for less than £500 as many of them have been just sitting unsold in stores for ages. If I mind right they were only 200 watts or so going into a four ohm load, meaning that you can't hook up one with an extra extension cab.[/quote] That's the plain 715 you're thinking of, thodrik. The 715x is rated at 360W into its 8ohm internal speaker, and 600W with an 8ohm extension - parallel to give 4ohms together. The 715x has a separate Speakon outlet for the extension, with the internal plugged into a 1/4" socket next to it. I've never owned one of these, but I've tried a friend's, and it's a real contender, especially at this price. She is very pleased with the sound with her passive Dean Jeff Berlin bass. It's a recognisably Trace Elliot sound, solid and punchy. Add a 1028H and it's very loud indeed. However, what she is not pleased with is the weight. 80lbs! Even on castors (do they come with these or did she add them? Don't know.) it's a real handful (did I mention something about 80lbs?) and totally impossible for her to load unaided, especially with only side handles, so that she often ends up using her little Line 6 Studio 110 whenever she can get away with it - on small pub gigs, and with acoustic guitarists.

A friend of mine has the little Studio 110, and it sounds ridiculously good for its size and weight, and surprisingly loud for 75W and 1x10" . She also has a Trace 715x, but uses the Line 6 on small and acoustic gigs, partly because of its size, but also because it just sounds so good. She has a Dean Jeff Berlin sig. (passive) bass, so I can't speak for how it would handle active basses and percussive styles of playing, but the warmth and old-school solidity of the sound is unreal for such a tiny thing.