Bean9seventy

59 minutes ago, binky_bass said:

There's a difference between a genuine typo mistake and continually typing the same rather annoying ' ,, ' after every single word you type! You don't NEED to do that, it actually takes you longer to type all these needless ' ,, ' over and over again than it would just to use a single comma. Apparently its due to 'years of drum programming'... not sure what that has to do with the same ' ,, ' appearing a thousand times in every one of your posts though!

*goes off to scream into a pillow*

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2 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

Do you ever read what you’ve typed before you click ‘submit reply’? 😂

 i am glad July Kit,, takes all types to chat about bass basically ,, yet you could create your own forum & call it GrammarChat ,, but think many will cheat & use Grammarly 

1 hour ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

Well, I’m impressed. You should have started this thread with that paragraph. Could have saved a whole load of grief!

very simple stuff,, its so slight people overlook it , & its so micro its not noticeable , ever ,but once you know it ,, it "can" stick out like a sore thumb ,

if i was getting an expensive  bass hand made i would request or try to get those preferences in the final build ,,

6 hours ago, musicbassman said:

Well,, good luck with that one,, my friend,, then you can get roasted for both suggesting that some people hear things differently to other people,, and also your,, choice unusual of order word,, and punctuation,,,,   🙂

i get cooked not because of what I say, its my presentation ,, & yes , its years of drum programming ,,

5 hours ago, Bunion said:

Most of my tone comes from the amount and density  of beer I’ve had, no consumption I’ll agree it might be off, low consumption and it’s fine, medium consumption and your having a laugh, finally high consumption, bass down, I’m off the stage “I AM THE BAND!” 

As long as the bass works its fine ,, but still, if i had a right bunch of cash to have my own bass(es) made from scratch,?  i wood seriously multi test & check to make sure the wooden components were tailored to my preference,

i know plenty of players will say it don't matter & you cannot hear any difference ,, videos have been made to prove there is no difference ,, but it depends on what you are listening for ? ,, plus i heard there is a bit of musical science that backs up the importance of tailoring wooden components / metal parts too for your "perfect ish"  bass / guitar / piano ,, in fact any known instrument ,,

even tho, it is a splitting of hairs subject for many eg ,, all wine is basically the same right ? until you meet a sommelier of the highest order , 

i might do a video on this topic so guys can make their own minds up on the finest details on the importance of instrument construction in terms of stock tone & components ,, thanks

On 17/04/2021 at 11:56, taunton-hobbit said:

1969 - Pat Kelly ?

Or  Heptones  1969 - ?

 

I know this upload is not reggae ,, yet this "LP" would have probably been on a few young blued eyed shelves ,,, since the post is showing many joints from around 1969 ,

what was on your shelf ? tighten up volume , maybe the odd blue beat , other reggae joints & probably this ,,, cheers 

7 hours ago, BoomTing said:

Bostin Fantastic !!!

look familiar ? Heinz aka Mr Benjamin Jet ,, probably going to an upper class dance ,

it was probably "after" he got tugged people want to hear fuss, or what it was all about , those low end beats ? Only played by Mr Tulip in his clubs from at least 1959

Johnny Ace

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23 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

Yeah, I started playing as a kid in 1977, and most of my friends parents listened to a lot of ska and Motown 

would probably have to be in documentary to describe my earliest recollections,, & how it turned into the Mod movement ,, Hippy movement &  of cause Reggae ,,

16 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

Great info there t/h, I like the Keith & tex version, it’s got a heavy Bassline, I’ve just been playing it 

well it was the Tighten Up Volume mixes by Trojan that catapulted reggae as a genre into the masses ,,  those who knew about reggae before 1970 ,, not bad, those who remember reggae before 1968 , great , those who remember reggae before 1964 ? are probably jazz men or calypso guys ,,

slip of the tongue actually, as there wasn't really such a thing as "reggae music"  in the early 1960s  ;D

3 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

Thanks, that’s the one, I’ve heard a few versions but that’s the one ☝️1967 wow 

an earlier version perhaps the original, tho it could be possibility based on an old american mid west country joint

The Spanishtonians - Stop That Train

43 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

Sir coxsone, He was a big man in the sound system world, I used to follow Jah Shaka 

just after ww2 1946 see louis jordan , the george benson of his day , big influence on what would later become standard reggae ,, seriously epic video , thanks

1 minute ago, Reggaebass said:

Sir coxsone, He was a big man in the sound system world, I used to follow Jah Shaka 

 Mr Tulip ? many forget it was initially american jazz from a calypso prospective ,,

charlie parker , louis jordan , many others, Johnny Ace,  a combination that eventually drove the sound into a heavier beat , a darker rolling, more serious at times approach to the basic bubble gum rock n roll pop turn around of the day ,

2 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

Yeah, you have to feel the riddim Bean ☝️

when i was small a guy used to sell "jazz records" many many years later i discovered he was Coxsone Dodd

4 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

Probably one of my favourite Freddie McGregor tracks, cool bassline from flabba, nice easy one to play 

 

think some peeps could be surprised on the benchmarks set by Dub Reggae bass players & their bass lines ,, easy on the ear, easy if you follow the top notes , yet plenty of those lines are swinging jazz turnovers , then, they twist the progression on the fret board ,, & you slowly realize you will not be able to play the line,  

34 minutes ago, Nail Soup said:

Prince Far-I - Moses Moses:

 

decent pop stepper

On 11/04/2021 at 11:51, Cliff Edge said:

This can be quite common. 
The Band’s reunion tour was a bad mistake. They were awful. Didn’t appear to be anyone who could hold a tune or keep in time. 
Walked out on the Mavericks who were no better than your average pub band. 
This upset my wife who was enjoying standing next to Nick Lowe, who is always worth the price of a ticket. 
Supertramp reunion. Dreadful racket, again terrible vocals. 
Steve Earle used to be excellent but is now, and has been for a number of years, boring as feck. Far too much politics, and that stupid beard. 
 

Conversely I have never been disappointed by US country artists. And a rare appearance of Jimmy Buffet in London several years ago was outstanding. 
The large number of phone videos of the show that appeared on YouTube the following morning confirmed just how good it was. Rare when you consider how often you enjoy  a live show, and then see a video of it and realise how God awful it was. 
U2 at Glastonbury case in point. The crowd loved it but the TV relay showed how bad they need a good singer. Flat as a fart is the expression that came to mind. 

 

Hmm ? i hear they say you should never meet your idols ,, after all any idol is made in ones own image ,, thus a mirror image of the alter ego of ones own reflection ,, if not a least a competitor of it

yes ,, there will be some howling moments in any industry , music is no different ,

yet what makes rock n roll slightly different is , it only relies on 3 core values , each core value can spell the polar opposite of the other , sometimes any combination of all 3 ,,

so yeah ,, if you thought your idol is great at say rock n roll ,, only to find out he is a meth head, or a bread head or into other stuff ,, eg  core values you do not subscribe to ? ,, it can be a nightmare ,, even if everyone else 100% said it was great ,

its why i do not take bass too seriously guys ,, its just a hobby , cheers

2 hours ago, MartinB said:

I'm speculating about the source - it's possible the OP has access to the original multi-tracks from the rights-holders, and permission to publish them.
You're absolutely right that they don't give you the full picture. What you're hearing is not the raw performance straight from the bass, but potentially a mix of multiple mics on an amp, DI, compression, EQ at the desk, etc etc. Very interesting nonetheless! Makes you appreciate that what sounds like a nice clean tone in the mix is actually pretty weird on its own. Case in point, the bass tone on September sounds absolutely rubbish:

 

the jury is out ,, yes they can be / are a great source of information ,, often note how raw some isolated stuff will be ? ,, this could point towards the point often said about players like EWF bass player who when he / they play live ,, never get the chance to lay live stuff down exactly right or truly capture that live dangerous power , & the opposite ,, session guys good clean & tight in studio, bad / dull when they play live ,, 

yet they is no way of ever knowing if any given stock is tweaked, upheld tracks or more ,, importantly stock cannot tell us what the exact (micro) notes are or feel of how the stock is layered out ,, 

that's why its good to also keep learning about texture & many things, pro tips, stage craft , & bass lines

finally tho ,, think isolated music means we probably might see plenty of cloned stuff out there guys ,,, your best isolated joint from you favorite ever band ,, possibly spammed to clown world ,,  never mind, its still good to jam bass  ,, cheers

3 hours ago, MartinB said:

I've got no reason to doubt that's the original bass recording taken from the studio multi-track tape. All the little variations are in there. These tracks have been available for years thanks to the Guitar Hero/Rock Band video games, which contained individual stems for bass/drums/guitar/vocals/etc that could be extracted. It's cool that folks keep posting them on YouTube etc, as they inevitably get taken down for copyright before too long.

ok  i never knew that ,, these guys were obviously not telling users exactly where they were getting the stock recordings from ,, like guys like us were like ? no way they were getting these from the studios man ,, i knew something was up ,,

yet still guys ? ,, stock recordings are only a guide , if you follow teachers like scotts bass lessons & other pro players ,, they will sometimes show you the incredible micro notes you cannot hear on many bass lines / music ,, even on isolated stock ,, how to swing the notes into the beat & fret the right way  ,, & the up beat notes ? producers might eg mix down ,,, up beat notes , & they could become un available on the mix purchased by Rock Hero Band & other 3rd parties ,,

thanks man for the detail on rock hero tho man ,,

breaking news ,, cave man bass player finally finds out why everyone has isolated bass lines to clone ,, cheers

8 hours ago, Bart Funk Bass said:

One of those guys who played what a song needed.

 

hmm ,, its hard to say sometimes if these are 100% genuine ,, insomuch as bass lines & other instruments are, or can be isolated to a point & airbrushed using pro tools & other musicians filling out the wave file * following the score & checking to make sure it matches perfect , perfect that is, to their own ears,, 

there are advantages / disadvantages

good .. if you really need to listen to a bass line, it can help ,, great if you are a DJ etc too

bad ,, means youtubers can repeatedly clone the bass line or other stock instruments & set up 100s of videos maybe more of any "classic" previously unplayable / tricky / monster awesome, historic isolated stock instrument ,, & rinse it into spam clown world

yet, i would never call it to be banned ,,

eg in this alleged isolated stock instrument track above , the producer of the day eg never bothered to get the stock score on the up beat ?

this was also highlighted by me self regarding bernard edwards ,, good times isolated bass,, that isolated mix was not raw enough to know "exactly how he played it ,, eg the micro notes from the isolated mix uploaded to youtube was blurry

 ,,, the isolated market has definitely taken off on youtube & other platforms tho guys ,, thanks

4 hours ago, Jay2U said:

 

Same here. I keep the wrists as straight as possible, in order not to stress the joints and tendons. Apart from this, arthritis forces me to be very careful to not get inflamed joints.

The Funk Monster OMG ;D

3 hours ago, chris_b said:

Release your grip so your thumb can move, not slide. Play with the lightest grip you can manage. It'll take time, but, you should focus on speed and accuracy of your hand movement. Maybe take the strings down a little? You'll get there.

the thumb sometimes, in reference to theory only has two positions it either lines up to your middle finger ,, & you play major using one finger per fret , or the thumb lines up to your 1st finger & you play a minor scale ,, also one finger per fret ,,

try any exercise given from baschat peeps on guitar 1st , if bass feels to big

i now use thumb over .. like chris squire like louis johnson means i use 5 digits on the fret board not 4,

tho strongly agree with scotts bass lessons its important to get the fret board right , before you employ party tricks , thanks

On 05/03/2021 at 00:09, chris_b said:

A good fretting hand technique isn't about reaching as many frets as you can in a stretch. It's about accuracy, control and flowing smooth movements across the board. How do you manage fast runs with your fingers extended like that? 

sometimes its as long as you can play the bass line, yet, if you feel a tho your fretting hand is letting you down ,, try practicing on a guitar , one finger per fret on guitar etc should be easy , unless you want to do crazy fast solos like immediately now , just take it easy, keep practicing & eventually your fingers should fall into place ,, albeit, closer to your desired position

34 minutes ago, prowla said:

didn't know I was arguing,,, big willy,,, "Beat It" was about the closest jacko got to metal.

lol ,, SHM i thought Flea was bigger than metal ,,

18 minutes ago, drTStingray said:

Jaco was very R and B (which is where funk and disco bass had its roots) - but River People has a disco style octaved bass part with hi hat sixteenths - pure disco!!

Jaco appeared to be into sequencer style lines - also appeared in River People. Even Teen Town could be considered a sequencer-style line. 

The real big break for 'disco' was Saturday Night Fever - not only the singles and album but the film - but it was around in R and B style bands before that. An early example being Love Hangover, Diana Ross (octaved bass part; hi hat sixteenths). 

teen town could even be based on otis redding sitting on the dock of the bay if you walk the notes that way ,, yes i agree , jaco picks up at RnB ,, yet he knew some of the disco guys ,,

looks guys / i aint making no bones here ,, i know mike edmonds he knows i would never say a bad note on jaco ,, its just i have the most out landish nickname for jaco

saturday night fever went viral almost the same way bruce lee went viral in enter the dragon ,, thanks  

50 minutes ago, prowla said:

I could never like Jaco, because he didn't play metal!

you win the argument little john ,, good job i never had a strange nick name for level42 ;D ,, i keep forgetting people today can be easily offended even by their own shadow ,,

it would be really nice tho if jaco was still in the building ,,, & with my self saying hey you ?? jaco ?? you managed to do them Disco octaves yet :D thanks