outside the mold

On 10/05/2021 at 16:59, Reggaebass said:

Yeah none of the clubs were specifically reggae, only one nighters,  it would be different music on different nights, there was some basement reggae clubs scattered around, the only one that was, was the four aces in Dalston, I used to follow Jah Shaka and Sir coxone then too 

cats whiskers ,, bouncing ball , few places to down some rum , then you have your pure heads ,, like moonshot ,, you could "for a while" go to a sticks man is a money man blues  , and hippies like reggae at festivals so yeah reggae has yet to be banned

21 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

I was there regularly, it was known as the WAG club 

wardour st is certainly high up on the west end tour guides map ,,

a west end club that was "meant" to be known for cecil gee & crock skin fashion was Gullivers ,, i never went ,, only herd 

think most discos would have a reggae moment in the 70s (80s) tho , alas most discos would also have a rock n roll moment punk rock & basic pop music moments too

On 10/04/2021 at 00:50, Bean9seventy said:

The Funk Monster OMG ;D

You will probably have to do other multiple exercises like eg press ups to keep the strength in the hand muscles going ,, check your diet ,, & immune system , breathing ,, if you feel sleepy ? ,,

if you can,, get the best honey ,, stay away from rhubarb ,, wherever possible limit the use of pain killers ,, chuck the "Paris Eat em All in the bin , try cannabis or alternative herbal relief ,, in an emergency use "real aspirin" warning,,,  limit your dose , take aspirin with milk / honey , thanks

53 minutes ago, taunton-hobbit said:

PAMA RECORDS

78 Craven Park Rd, Harlesden, London NW10 4AE.

Three brothers, Harry, Jeffrey and Carl Palmer (who had all emigrated from Jamaica in the 50s and 60s) founded Pama Records, a record shop, label and distributor, in Harrow in 1967 with the aim of bringing Jamaican music to the UK. In 1968 Pama relocated to 78 Craven Park Road and became the main-competitor to Trojan Records.

Pama released records by local artists, Junior English and Delroy Washington (Federation of Reggae Music) however their biggest hit (released on their Unity label) was Max Romeo’s ‘Wet Dream’, despite being banned from UK radio and receiving no airplay it made no.10 in the UK charts in the summer of 1969 selling 250,000 copies. One of Pama’s first releases in 1968 was 'The Champ' by The Mohawks, which would become one of the most sampled tracks in hip hop.

 

as mentioned previously ,,, jazz is big in reggae ,, now the focus is on Sam Cooke

Pama Label ,, great music ,, thanks for the info

1 hour ago, taunton-hobbit said:

 

sleuthing ,,, the 2nd joint by Eddie Lovette , goes into another fascination within "many" communities of the 1960s ,, that of the Great Great Great Sam Cooke ,, notable sam cooke type vocal harmony's throughout the above tune below

4 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

I used to listen to a lot of snoop and Dre, and when snoop dog changed and went reggae as snoop lion I thought it was going to be great, but I listened to all the albums and I didn’t like one track 

just don't tell Bootsy

11 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

Nice version of the big ship rhythm here, and another by Eek a mouse 

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from times when bass went big about that ,, bass charges the room , years later became drum & bass , folks forget ,electronic steppers

4 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said:

nice , as a disco man , i notice somethings , mainly from the 1960s , 1970s reggae is more is popular yet more popular means we just followed its norm , seen as the latest slow dance thing by then , nice music ,, yet as herbs & veg kicks in the early 80s ,, music demand changed, into who is big about ya & big on the bass ;D

i had to google studio one ,, i couldn't believe it, as i said a few pages back , he had a lot of jazz records ,, i herd talk about excitable pop music , tho, jazz guys drifted towards American Go Go  yet supported the pop cats

think everyone was taken away by chubby checkers twist ,, the twist as an instrumental is very Go Go  ,, remembering pop

2 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

I think you’re right , a few different sites are saying different dates

The group had several Studio One recorded hits in Jamaica, most notably "Love me Forever" in 1968.

Carlton and The Shoes
Genres	Reggae
Labels	Studio One
Members	Carlton Manning Donald Manning Lynford Manning Alexander Henry

The group is led by Carlton Manning, and the line-up was originally completed by his younger brothers Donald and Lynford (both members of The Abyssinians), 

 

nice , as a disco man , i notice somethings , mainly from the 1960s , 1970s reggae is more is popular yet more popular means we just followed its norm , seen as the latest slow dance thing by then , nice music ,, yet as herbs & veg kicks in the early 80s ,, music demand changed, into who is big about ya & big on the bass ;D

2 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

You could be right there, it was released I 1976

thought it was 1979,, tho yeah reggae in those days was all about the slow dance moment of the night ,, anyway more jazz crossover

5 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

Sounds good Bean, I’ll look forward to seeing it, give us a shout when you’ve done it , I’ve seen your other videos 👍

yeah , i will probably add a reggae / basschat subject in the videos & possibly talk / review Don Chandler ,, not concentrating reggae, instead looking at how James Jamerson type jazz bass makes us hear bass lines & arrive at different notes ,, against what the top notes of any bass line would suggest,, it simple stuff anyone can learn ,, yet transforms knowledge of bass  

2 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

Came across a track I hadn’t heard today, or the band , it’s a similar rhythm to downpressor man by Peter Tosh , nice mix at 3.40

 

, nice tune 100%,, sounds like a tune associated the time when studio one started competing with/ against the UK lovers rock genre ,, proving how far / how much Janet Kay influenced the entire scene

btw Carlton sings 1m times better than he plays football ;D ,, the invisible stealth jazz ,, is right there in the vocal harmony ,,

jazz theory v classical music theory by the Coltrane heads

On 06/05/2021 at 07:46, SumOne said:

Generally speaking, the tone, rhythm/feel, and space between notes are big parts of playing Reggae, doing that while playing Triads is a good starting point. 

There's a thread of Reggae Bass playing guides here:

 

yeah his a good player ,, my question to the chaps is ? & we have an example in the basschat thread eg "punk bands playing reggae etc ,,

in my book the above can also be interpretative into UK /Funk, Reggae bass players eg who only play or know the top notes of basslines  ,,

this is what i do mainly when jamming & learning bass lines , trying to get a groove structure going "whenever possible, even if its a simple two note bass line , i search for jazz elements not classical music ones mainly

james jamerson type logic & musical mentality via jazz , no fast solos & chords just the occasionally pitched blue note / beat , i plan to do videos all about it

5 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

1978 , nice Bassline 

 

not known personally for reggae on bass ,, tho these days if i should jam to reggae i will automatically try to turn the bass to find "blue notes ? ,, & groove towards jazz ,, & get a more dated sound

its the James Jamerson principle of relying on Groove more than knowing the exact fretted Top Notes , swinging & pitching notes along jazz ,,

not big solos, & charming scales,  just the odd single blue note ,, maybe a blue beat ? ,, so yeah jazz can be simple as a single note pitched ,, besides most chaps like music that way  

On 01/05/2021 at 10:34, SumOne said:

Yeah they're all good. Burnin' is next on the vinyl shopping list. 

they grew decent carrots in those times ,, not only good for eyesight ,, good for hearing ,& much more , now known globally as municipal health carrots ,, pity they still refuse "outright to give camberwell a blue plaque for herbs & vegetables ,, when they are thought of as pioneering heroes (world wide) ,, Bob Marley one the 1st to single-handedly charge up a room without using electricity

7 minutes ago, greavesbass said:

Pity cause I have to totaly disagree with what Ive read so far about him. Saw him at a small local festival on the South Coast a few yrs ago (yes, weird or what!) and his band were just groovier and tighter than an over torqued  nut and bolt....great sound.

: D lol Speaking in a Dubbed Kung Fu voice ,, Hey you ?

its not james brown ,its "Mr James Brown"  ,, the one & only , the minister of funk ,, the godfather of funk ,, the hardest working man in show business , 

i will let you go this time ,, but you bin warmed lol

16 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

To ignore all this fluff 🙂 to repeat my point - other factors make a much bigger difference to the tone than the wood, as evidenced by how hard it is to eliminate these other factors and the struggle to hear the remaining differences.

The question has to be is there any point worrying about the 'tone wood' when any difference it can make is easily compensated for by easier to make changes?

we all know wine is wine ,, just drink the stuff, yeah ?,, eg my No1 bass cost £35 ok ? not £190K

yet bass developers are always searching to improve various aspects in construction including wood ,,

we go beyond what ever wood is used ,, & the above great video by Le Fay , you can hear it reasonably clearly ,, that is if you know what to listen for ,, 

On 15/04/2021 at 17:57, Hellzero said:

These four basses have exact same preamps (passive only for this test), pickups and strings and were set up to the exact same precise adjustments...

Same amp (Glockenklang), same settings, same cable, same place, same player, same noodling, same ... everything. A real test, for once.

The only differences are the woods used.

Use headphones or good speakers.

great video you can hear the difference , tho only slight ,, yet slight can be enough to yay or nay any instrument ,,

Oliver Lang , Le Fay , a Basschat pendant & Rainger FX all captured with my £35 bass

On 19/04/2021 at 21:03, binky_bass said:

Get in the corner and think about what you've done... 

I agree with both sides ,, the difference of wood can be so micro & nano the difference is un - audible to many 

yet its the same as wine , if you want to get drunk ? just drink it ,,

but if you are a wine freak ? then you search for the perfect wines & have to learn all about what makes a wine good , 

if i was having a bass hand made no expense spared i wood go into the finest possible details "above & beyond" just selecting the best wood ,

as i suggested a few pages back its what folks never bother / realize to listen to that also "could" make the difference in your own personal search for a perfect type set up construction of wood or any material ,, cheers ,,

Just now, Reggaebass said:

That’s cool, whatever happened to them 

no idea ,, tho some of the guys who got big pro work into the 70s have retired ,, & some are no longer with us , sadly recently too

ps if you feel lost ,, you shout out for "Jerry " ok ?

Just now, Reggaebass said:

Omg, that’s an old skool classic Bean ☝️, the first time I heard that was in the Four Aces club in Dalston, top tune 👍

i remember the band being formed & going into the studio in 78 ,, they flipped into doing disco pop in the 80s ,, tho yeah, after watching a great "pro reggae bassist" doing chops , thought i would highlight some features 

21 hours ago, Reggaebass said:

Don is a great player, don’t know if you know sumone he’s a member here 👍@donstrumental

nice bass player great video ,, getting a great method & awareness on space & beat awesome ,  i would probably have to see more videos tho to find out if he goes into turning the notes into " blue notes " aka jazz

think he might be too young to remember Jerry ,, yet you never know ,,

2 minutes ago, Nail Soup said:

I sometimes use multiple commas just to fit in with other people who use multiple commas.

 

I guess that makes me a comma comma comma comma comma chameleon.

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commas you please , i used to have nice handwriting tho I dunno guys ,, it puts you off topic just to be pulled over a typewriter

1 minute ago, upside downer said:

,, merci,, 

i thought this was bass chat ,, ;D plenty of bass players have a special relationship with drums ,, as you may notice , its almost in built in my case ,, cheers guys , thanks for the support