Bean9seventy

13 hours ago, MrCrane said:

In the past, it's just been a gig/jam at the local pub, so probably just a walk in job.

i dont fancy being jumped on stage in a pub ?? ; D call it jazz cafe nightmares ,,  its why i go to TLBGS ,, its a safe(r) environment

5 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said:

if it was bikes we would be talking about cold setting ? ,, sure if you have a tight drop out you can squeeze out the frame ,, but if you get it wrong it can cause other components of the bike to fail / ruin the bike completely , if we think of it as bikes ,, the guy wants a longer chain for a deeper ratio ? ,, we say just change the deepest sprocket  eg one string E to D ,, = DADG because the higher faster gears will cover all the other notes / ratios  ,, and if the guy wants to cold set to "his choice"   this can also include  neck to body re - join adjustments it would be pointless putting a shorter chain back on ,, eg standard tuning back on the bass 

cheers guys 1 day to go before LBGS

 

My lowest natural de tune i had no real major issues with the fret board was Db Ab Db Gb ,, cheers guys

14 hours ago, mcnach said:

 

what we're talking here is very minor, I don't understand why people are afraid of using the truss rod. It's like being afraid of putting air in your tyres  Sure, you can blow a tyre if you severely overdo it... but be

14 hours ago, mcnach said:

 

what we're talking here is very minor, I don't understand why people are afraid of using the truss rod. It's like being afraid of putting air in your tyres  Sure, you can blow a tyre if you severely overdo it... but be sensible and you'll be ok

sensible and you'll be ok

if it was bikes we would be talking about cold setting ? ,, sure if you have a tight drop out you can squeeze out the frame ,, but if you get it wrong it can cause other components of the bike to fail / ruin the bike completely , if we think of it as bikes ,, the guy wants a longer chain for a deeper ratio ? ,, we say just change the deepest sprocket  eg one string E to D ,, = DADG because the higher faster gears will cover all the other notes / ratios  ,, and if the guy wants to cold set to "his choice"   this can also include  neck to body re - join adjustments it would be pointless putting a shorter chain back on ,, eg standard tuning back on the bass 

cheers guys 1 day to go before LBGS

14 hours ago, T-Bay said:

Digitech drop pedal, a tone down sounds fine, strings usual tension, job done. Much more than a tone and it starts to sound a bit odd.

2 hours ago, pineweasel said:

I think the suggestion to slacken the truss rod was to see if you could improve matters with your old strings. Having fitted heavier strings, you'll need to tighten the truss rod back up to compensate for their increased tension. I expect you'll need to take it back to approximately where it was before, i.e a quarter turn clockwise, but do it in stages, measuring neck relief as you go. 

yeah , truss rod "can" be a tweak too far guys when you are splitting hairs on set up ,, eg the strings might start breaking faster ,, the bridge might start grinding & the fret plate might slowly weep back into its prime default position ,, if in doubt music shops can set the bass to pro bass level ,

shops do good m.o.t.s , that's what i do if i have serious set up issues " i go to denmark st ,, whats left of it #

thanks guys

1 hour ago, lastanthem88 said:

Hi McNach - I’ve turned the truss rod a quarter anti clock wise as you suggested, and also put some 50-110 strings on... heavy! The action is now very high, and I can’t even adjust the bridge saddles to go any lower really. Is this common? How can I now get the action lower? The strings are much tighter now though which is good.

 the trend is to move away from getting as low action as possible ,, heavy strings kind of work different too, they need a bit of space to move ,, tho its starting to sound interesting putting on max weight strings on a  D G C F set up should be enough  funk for anyone ,, the strings might feel a tad droopy ,, like that could be cool ,

be careful with the truss rod tho guys ,, you can snap the bass if you over tweak ,,

ps i did see a pro rock band with a straight level set up on his bass eg ,

the strings from bridge to nut had an amazing true line ,, no slope dip rise or fall over the frets or body ,, and it played like a bell 

london bass guitar show this weekend ,

cheers

On 14/09/2019 at 10:32, lownote12 said:

I have a ticket but don't know if I can be arsed.  British Rail want me to take a bus for half the  2 1/2 hour journey, and it doesn't look as good as last year when Scott wheeled in loadsa stars like Henrik Linder and Rich Brown. Try as I might I can't see much more than Cody and John Pattitucci, who is obv a god but is he worth 2 1/2 hours on a BR bus?  Think I'll just chuck the ticket unless someone can persuade me I've turned over two pages at once on the programme. 

get the tube to " Angel  " ,, from any central grand main line station guys ,, ; ) ,

then its a few bus stops to the joint ,, ; )

nick beggs ? ,, could be a great meet ,, he moved on to stick bass and exotic things ,, so yeah ,,

we confirm he was not the 1st brit player to slap a music man ,  means ,, i dont do his covers ; ) ,, great guy tho , plus *

lets see what he is up to in the wake of the internet music revolution ,

i will be doing Funk Monster tips on bass mainly for scotts bass lessons  to see  ,, because the stuff is not on the internet

the theory of funk according to B970

another you tube user said to upload it ,, but i think scott would do a better job explaining it ,, as my talking videos are not great

ps ,

i got the nick name " The Funk Monster from some of sellers at the bass guitar show ,,

thanks

3 hours ago, lastanthem88 said:

Thanks for posting those, really appreciated - it's a tuning that I have to use though, as the band I'm working in drop a full tone so the tuning is D, G, C, F.

?? you only need to drop the One string from E to D ,, guys ??

and there are basses out there with a built in de tune latch ,, for the E string

if you feel you need to drop every string  D G C F,, then you may need to set up the bass / fret action truss rod strings etc accordingly & have a separate bass for standard tuning  ,,

you can get a brand new bass for $75.

remember, if you only de tune one string then its easy to tune it back ,,

if you like playing in D G C F all of the time / a gig Band or LP ?  then quit bothering about re tuning to standard tuning as you have initially  made it clear ,  its not required on the bass you are using at this time

here i am playing a bass line in the wrong tuning " deliberately" ( Eb Ab Db Gb ) in order to get a feel of consistently playing the bass in the tuning the band i was in wanted ,, 

thanks

On 09/09/2019 at 09:31, lastanthem88 said:

Hi all,

I'm drop tuning to D G C F for our singers voice, and I'm struggling with a few things that I hope some experienced people could help me out with. 

The first is that the strings feel loose and slack under my fingers, totally different to when I'm playing in standard tuning, there isn't the same resistance in the strings when I'm playing and I hate thee feeling.

The second is that the fret board seems 'noisy', almost clanky like a Rickenbacker, but not in a good way! There's some fret buzz also, but I don't want to change the action if possible as I've had it that way for years and it's perfect when I'm playing in standard tuning.

Can anyone advise me? Is it a different type of set up, heavier strings.... anything at all would be appreciated!

Cheers 

there are various ways to drop your strings ,, depending on the feel of the bass line / notes required ,, eg if you need just a low D  then simply de tune the E string to D ,, =

D A D G ,,  eg used by mark king ,  dropping every string by a whole tone is rarely required D G C F is a rare set up ,,, the most common is Eb Ab Db Gb ,, where you can de tune Eb to Db ,, giving you Db Ab Db Gb ,, i have used many combinations of de tuning

D G C F  could be used on eg "The S,O,S Band The Finest" its the only bass line i know where that method of tuning helps ,,, tho i have yet to try it using the more common D A D G set up ,,

thus a probable reason for a weak sound when you de tune could be your initial set up , set up for standard tuning only ,,, thus you probably will need to reconfigure your initial set up ,, fret board truss rod  strings etc to cater for de tuning ,,

here i am using an extreme set up ,, so many people have asked me about how i devised the de tune  for Tom Brownes Trowdown

simple ,, you de tune to Eb Ab Db Gb ,, then use the mark king method ,, de tune E to D = in this case Eb to Db  giving you Db Ab Db Gb

and here i am using the standard mark king de tune on the wrong song ; D ,,, it can only be played Kansas  city milk man apparently  ; D ,,,, i am sure there are other De-tunes on other level 42 LPs

finally recently i used the common method of Only dropping the E  string  to D =

  D A D G on The Word Girl ,, when de tuning  this way including  Db Ab Db Gb means the fingering changes ,, cheers

On 13/09/2019 at 12:53, Paul Geary said:

 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said:

nick beggs ?? ,, ; D this will be interesting ,, nick is a great player / good guy ,,, musician who kind of pioneered stick bass ,, after the band went broke* ,, he carried on learning more about the instrument his manager told him to play ,,

it should also equate to david bowie ,, who put the band ,, that was broke , skint ,, back onto the the straight & narrow ,, a week to go and I am not ready ,, typical ; D

4 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said:

nick beggs ?? ,, ; D this will be interesting ,, nick is a great player / good guy ,,, musician who kind of pioneered stick bass ,, after the band went broke* ,, he carried on learning more about the instrument his manager told him to play ,,

it should also equate to david bowie ,, who put the band ,, that was broke , skint ,, back onto the the straight & narrow ,, a week to go and I am not ready ,, typical ; D

John Patitucci, ?  when i 1st herd this guy ,, i really thought he was a guitarist playing bass ,,, but john is a true bass player ,, who openly respects the sounds of the street ,,,, as Mozart eventually did ,,  

its starting to sound like TLBGS ,, guys

the line up is there

On 08/09/2019 at 10:43, ezbass said:

Cody Wright on Sunday interests me (another pick playing masterclass after Bobby Vega last time around sounds good). My guitar playing interest is piqued by Lari Basilio.

nick beggs ?? ,, ; D this will be interesting ,, nick is a great player / good guy ,,, musician who kind of pioneered stick bass ,, after the band went broke* ,, he carried on learning more about the instrument his manager told him to play ,,

it should also equate to david bowie ,, who put the band ,, that was broke , skint ,, back onto the the straight & narrow ,, a week to go and I am not ready ,, typical ; D

On 19/07/2019 at 18:53, marleaux62 said:

Exactly no Ashsdown, John East, rotosound, or Andy Baxter. Speaks volumes.

no rotosound is possible alarm bells guys  ,,, well ? its best to visit just to see if TLGBS is still viable ,, whether it is evolving into a U.S  style NAMM

if not it was great going to TLBGS over the years from around 2011 ,,

in years to come people will back with pride to say i was there when bass players ruled  

On 18/06/2019 at 13:22, ezbass said:

Three months to go and still no confirmed line up? Very poor indeed. Sounds like it could end up being the guitar show’s sidekick in the long run, or disappear completely. However, I’m going with a bunch of guitar playing chums this year who I don’t see that often (one is another bassist, so I won’t be on my own whilst checking out the bass gear) so it’ll be a fun day anyway.

sad to hear all these bass players moaning ,, we got to keep the funk going guys ,, NAMM is very similar ,, it could be good it could be bad ,,

plus we get the chance to see how stalls treat guitarist when they just want it a little bit louder ,, maybe there are places were you can play as loud as you like ,,, ??

quit this moaning eat a snickers ,, you're a bass player ,, & mean with it ,,

Just now, Bean9seventy said:

The Axe P Bass Copy

1 hour ago, miles'tone said:

What's occurring? Lots of chat, Cat. Let's hear that bass, Ace.

1 hour ago, miles'tone said:

What's occurring? Lots of chat, Cat. Let's hear that bass, Ace.

yes only one other picture of the " Axe " P Bass is on the internet ,, so far here it is ,, in its natural form

2 hours ago, Horizontalste said:

Man this thread has pickled the think melon!

Half the time I can't figure out exactly what the message you're trying to get across is! 

Your double slap thing hasn't changed the way the world see's or plays funk, in fact I'm sure the left hand could achieve similar results without lamping the thread off the truss rod, if it works for you great but I doubt very much that it will be a technique that we all rush to add to the musical toolbox.

I will off course watch your ultimate funk hack video just to see if stinky poo gets real for me the very next day guaranteed, but experience tells me that there are no shortcuts & theory, regardless of who's theory it is is just that..... Theory!

That's not meant to be scathing by the way, different strokes for different folks and all.

 

P.s, if anyone could fill me in on the "gaming site" references if love to be educated!

yes ii double slapping can be played using a different method ,, i did show a guy at LBGS  last year he quickly said the same thing ,,

but ,, "double thumbing" can be played using a 100% much simpler method too ,,

there is also absolute 100% simple ways of achieving triplets ,,

the maths behind double slapping ,, is to do with harmony ,, not speed slapping ,/" kettle slapping " ii i dont use the word machine gun slapping ,, or continuously thumping your bass until it breaks ,

the video you saw was rushed ,,

double slapping is something you might use Once or Twice in a tune ,,

here is an example of double slapping being used in the correct way or ,, the way it was initially intended

the worlds 1st double slap jam is at around 1 min 27 secs ; D please use slow motion to see it

i will do more examples ,, in fact i do just a Single double slap in this jam @ 2 mins 33 secs

its now already part of a players tool box ,, mine

unlike many hacks  D.S  makes it easier to play bass ,, its flowing energy you control ,, not the other way round ,

double thumb , Double Slap , line tap , triplet slap

we might never know how future players will use it

eg , for those who do not know ,, double thumbing in 70s was sighted being lazy ,, ; D

it used to be called rubbing the strings  ,, ; D

if victor wotten ever reads this ,,, that's what it was called vic ,, string rubbing  laziness  ; D

Thanks stay tuned

41 minutes ago, PJ-Bassist said:

I tried to watch the videos but I just couldn't get through them :(.

i'm super interested in Funk so I was open to learning some new stuff but 20 mins through these videos I abandoned all hope.

Bass is so much more prevelant in Funk than other forms of popular music, I was really hoping to get some insight into common chord progressions incl  types of chords used and associated chord scales/ modes used for grooving (lots of 7th and 9th chords right?). 16th note groove theory and technique would have been great too - ultimately I was hoping to find something that would help improve my ability to jam along to these tunes.

I was also looking forward to the gear videos, but you seemed to focus solely on your rigs rather than that of the likes of Bootsy.  I'm not particularly interested in your busking rigs (I couldn't see the link to the theory of funk, if I was looking for information on how to busk as a bassist it would have been more helpful) 

Anyways I gave it a try, just not what I was hoping for ,  I wish you luck with the rest of the series.  Hopefully others are finding it more informative than I.  Perhaps I've just massively missed the point with it all.

If anyone does have some good resources on theory / technique for funk I'd love to hear about them.

Cheers

funk has nothing to do with 16 notes chords or scales ,, man ?

scales are on lizards ,,,, ;D

yeah We know these things because Funk was never invented in a tech music college ,,,

Funk is a feeling ,

the theory has yet to be uploaded ,, its all teasers apart from " Double Slapping "

sorry you are so so bored ,,, that is not my fault ,

without people like Myself and those ^ above ,,you wouldn't know how to spell the word Funk , ;D

get used to the facts ,,

when i think of Crackers ( Sunday nights) , only the dancers are left , , DJ george & paul have left the building

so what we say is Gold ,,,

if the moon is square its square ,,

But hey that is what you expect on a gaming site ,, right ? 

the theory is so so simple but so effective ,, it will change the way anyone looks at their bass forever ,, guaranteed , just like Double Slapping but 100 times more so , its not a hack ,, its a complete theory ,,

almost like the bible , literally ,

keep looking coz all you will find is tech , fast triplets slap hacks or advanced notation transcribed from guitar 

i have been on you tube a while & have not seen the theory anywhere ,

that's when you realize omg ,,, of course , if the theory was on line it would have already pointed it out ,

 1969 - 2019 ,,

was The Bass was the last messenger in music ?  ; D

6 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said:

i have been to the LBGS ,,  & was asked to turn my bass down without it being plugged into anything guys ,, ;D

as a person who has busked bass from 1989* in central london ,, We Know as soon as people hear Big Funk on bass it gets shut down ,,

if it was the london  / Rock / bass guitar show this forum would be different ,,

the average rock bassist can find it hard competing with an average funk bassist because of ? ,,, Slap ,,

means as soon as anyone slaps bass over & above the overall din of sound ,, you are aked to turn it down ,,,,, ..... even if its not plugged in

; D ,,, The guy did look a bit silly ,,, when i showed him ,, my bass was connected to nothing ,, anyway all of the pros & cons aside ,,

LBGS  is the next best thing to Namm , ,it gets % thumbs down on youtube ,tho , because its a place where Real People ,,,, including you tubers meet ,, hiders hate lbgs ,,

so,, what ever it is lets keep LBGS going guys ,, not having an amp means nothing   ; D,

i go to LBGS talk jam & chat , share , buy ,, manly on The Oliver Lang stall

it was those guys started to call me The Funk Monsta    ;,,, D

this year i was going to go to LBGS in march ,, where i was going to push Double Slapping ,, then ask scotts bass lessons if he would be interested in my music theory ,,

it fell apart when they announced it would be in September , now i am jumping the shark trying to do the theory on line ,, its hard for me to do 

cheers

The Worlds 1st Double Slap ,,, thanks ,,

15 hours ago, prowla said:

Well, it's true that someone has to turn up the volume.

I recall someone on the Markbass stand cranking it up stupidly loud to play stuff; I happened across his website a few months back and was surprised to see they he can actually play!

But I don't think the headphones are the answer - I tried a Dingwall through some and it was meaningless.

Maybe all amps should have to face the wall?

i have been to the LBGS ,,  & was asked to turn my bass down without it being plugged into anything guys ,, ;D

as a person who has busked bass from 1989* in central london ,, We Know as soon as people hear Big Funk on bass it gets shut down ,,

if it was the london  / Rock / bass guitar show this forum would be different ,,

the average rock bassist can find it hard competing with an average funk bassist because of ? ,,, Slap ,,

means as soon as anyone slaps bass over & above the overall din of sound ,, you are aked to turn it down ,,,,, ..... even if its not plugged in

; D ,,, The guy did look a bit silly ,,, when i showed him ,, my bass was connected to nothing ,, anyway all of the pros & cons aside ,,

LBGS  is the next best thing to Namm , ,it gets % thumbs down on youtube ,tho , because its a place where Real People ,,,, including you tubers meet ,, hiders hate lbgs ,,

so,, what ever it is lets keep LBGS going guys ,, not having an amp means nothing   ; D,

i go to LBGS talk jam & chat , share , buy ,, manly on The Oliver Lang stall

it was those guys started to call me The Funk Monsta    ;,,, D

7 hours ago, Ricky 4000 said:

I think you're a really good musician, B. Though I don't really understand all that you're trying to say. 👍

Double Slapping is not the theory of funk ,,@,, it is just an easy hack i guaranteed would change bass players ,, probably forever the next day ,

,,,,,,mark adams ,,,, that sunday &  my 1st D.S jam

D.S , proves the bass has a limited harmony ,, compared to a piano ,

the funk theory is just as easy to learn ,, almost ,, (eg no outrageous fingering or slap required,, 100% ) and will have an even more profound effect on bass players & musicians ( probably also guaranteed ) the very next day  ,, and its not a hack ,,& you wont ruin your bass

its not on the internet anywhere ,, as far as i know ,,

it basically blows away all of the teachers & much of what they say in one simple theory ,

everything you think you know about bass ,, from master class players to bedroom beginners  ,, until now , & its so so simple 

i wanted to go to LBGS  meet scotts bass lessons ( i have met scott ) to see if he wanted to do the videos ,, as i can not do not want to wait until September ,,

so i am trying to film myself ,, its not easy

so bass chat is just a gaming site ,,,, ?? wow

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  >

1 hour ago, paul_c2 said:

Can you let us know what you ARE smoking?

 

 

 

.........so we can all avoid it.

nah ,,, i blew you peeps out of the water ,,, as i said i would ,

The worlds 1st double slap ,, makes you 1000 times more funky than you ,, no not you ,, you were the day before you saw it ,, guaranteed ,, yeah easy

from one of UKs 1st Ever slap players ,,

no rig no gear ,, no need to train ,, just get all of the Fun you need from bass in less than a second ,,

& hey ,, if you want to jump me on stage ,, as they did @ the jazz cafe ,, go ahead ,,, ( jealously )

they tried it at LBGS ,,, but the organizer(s) of LBGS saw & stopped it ,,

anyways ,,your PC must be so noise led without ear plugs ,,,  & being as bored as you are ,, try going back to sleep ,, do us all a favor

turning bass chat into an AOL gang stalking gaming site will not work either

That too has already been tried before ,,

,,,,, Mark Adams ,, respect ,,

6 hours ago, fleabag said:

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

Cut down on the pepsi 

i don't smoke pepsi

2 hours ago, Ricky 4000 said:

B.9.70. You Rock!

I can't do the double slap yet... not yet anyway.

My forbidden lover - that's a great line. I gotta learn it.

👍

The worlds 1st Double Slapper ,,,,  ; D

change the way you play bass forever with one simple hack  ,, it wont matter what type of music style you are into ,,

sorry you find it too difficult to do ,, lol ; D

,, double slapping ,, Mutual Attraction by Change ,, wow , only 2 or 3 notes of D.S , changes the harmony of those notes ,  totally mouthwatering

The Funk Monsta ,,, mixtape Bootsy ,, D.S gives you powerful control of The Funk ,, Turns you into the Big Rock Metal guy ,

Billy Sheenan " i always want the most amount of sustain from my bass ,, i never realized you can get those extra ounces  internally from your own body ,,, awesome ,

victor wotten ,, i was always looking for extra notes ,, D.S  is another round of extra notes ,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  i  hereby dedicate

                                 " Double Slapping " to

                               Mark The Hansolor Adams

thank you