tayste_2000

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Then I would guess it would just fit on a nano

HX One will work as a tuner

I have Zoom multi fx’s to scratch the itch of things I want or think I want. I’d suggest you look at the HX One, it’ll do your chorus for now and your comp when you change your mind in the future.

On 31/05/2023 at 18:44, tayste_2000 said:

Fits tightly in the GruvGear Guitar Kapsulite

 

I couldn’t find the Kapsulite Plus which has wheels, the website shows that would be too small.

 

But I’ve got a Kapsule waiting for me in the US which I’m hoping will be my 1 bag travel solution for long trips.

 

I’ll be doing several flights with this in the hold over the next few months.

 

The Thomann Beatle Bass bag was great and super light but it’s a nightmare carrying on on each flight. Even when you’ve got it on, finding space for it and then people dumping suitcases on top of it. Much much easier just to check and this was the only thing I could get in Colombia (Mono was more expensive and bigger). This is shorter but wider, obviously heavier but looks really sleek so overall looks more compact.

 

Will see how it stands up to my next several flights.

 

Not sure what I’m going to do when I buy a full scale bass again 😬

 

(Currently have a Gruv Gear Edge, Kapsulite, Kapsule. All guitar models and each with a Mustang in them)

 

 

Kapsule is also very nice.

The Gator shown last is a bass case

Also buy a D’addario XPND and stop worrying 😂

2 minutes ago, Ander87 said:

Quick question fellas: do you find yourself needing a compressor less and less since you've got the capo? Is there some natural compression going on in there?

 

I use my compressor always as tone enhancer and not a limiter as my string/hands are fairly even and I use a pick most times, but I feel like my Lusithand Alma does less and less since I've got the Capo.

 

I'm making a pedalboard with the Capo, tuner, distortion and fuzz (new MBD and Moose Nomad which are both on the bigger side), and I'm considering maybe a chorus would be best to fit in a Nano+. I just wanted to check how it goes for y'all since I was evaluating whether I need a compressor at all.

 

No, I won't take the suggestion of 'get a bigger board' cause I end up with 4 more pedals to make it tight when all I may need is a chorus 😁

 

Ander.

I’ve not played with mine for a bit but I’d say yes there is some compression going on, very very light. I’ve struggled with my raw sound and my sound with a compressor. Goldilocks, one is not enough and one too much. The Capo was just right, about the same sort of compression I get from good A/D conversion (not saying it’s doing this) but just that really light something is going on.

If you’re using it for tone and not finding you need it then you can ditch it on the board. But I often think we just find different is better (for a while) so play with just the capo and in 6 months add the compressor back on and wonder how you ever lived without it, then 6 months later remove it and marvel at how open and wide your tone sounds and wonder why you ever had that compressor on your board in the first place, lather, rinse, repeat

14 minutes ago, jazzyvee said:

I can' find anything about the body pack, how does your monitor mix get to it. Is it wireless or is there a 3 pin connector socket?

Headphone out of your standard IEM receiver pack into it

Just got back to the US where I left the older Nux Mighty Plug, it sounds much better than the newer pro 😂

But the connectivity, functionality and buttons are better on the pro.

Had to keep my phone close to change volume of the bass.

To add to the original thread, I couldn’t fit the ms60b in my bag but the p1/2 would have. It’s just a shame like Nux neither is quite right be it functionality or sound quality.

8 hours ago, Paddy777 said:

@Sibob - you selling the Capo?? 🤞 😃 

He’s sold it back to it’s rightful owner 😇

44 minutes ago, SumOne said:

 

The thing that always let's multi-fx down for me is when you need that decent envelope filter, or synth, or whatever else the unit doesn't do well you need the individual pedal - which then needs a power supply, and a pedalboard, and before long individual pedals start to take over again!

 

 

This every time

We do of course have Namm next weekend so maybe we get lucky with a new release.

@Greg Edwards69 I agree with everything you’ve said there.

The Kemper I can justify price wise as it would just be my rig, main and practice and then I can take my chances on backups when travelling and on a solid gig I have a DI box in every gig bag anyway.

But I want FX more than I want amp sims, I’ll get the Noble capture on the Kemper and never touch another model I’m sure of it.

Additionally before someone brings it up the new Zoom MS50G+ still no headphone or bluetooth but it does have USB C, but the fx list is way less than the current offering, no bass fx and all the fun stuff has gone. Additionally if you can’t hack them they’re worse and currently no one knows if you can.

5 hours ago, Greg Edwards69 said:

FWIW I ended up forgoing the all-in-one backup and performance tool. The device I want doesn't exist - at least not in my budget.

 

So I now have the Boss Pocket GT as a practice tool and recently bought the Sonicake "Boom Avenue" flyrig as a hope-I-don't-need-to-use-it backup for gigs. It's okay, but I'm still considering getting the Sansamp Bass Flyrig V2 instead if I can find one for a good price - I could easily gig with one of them instead of the Helix (as long as I don't have to pitch shift.

 

Even though the Boss Pocket GT doesn't have bass amp models per se, I think it sounds much, much better than the P1. And the built in bass presets are usable without any tweaking. The only downside is the transport controls are all but useless since Youtube changed their restriction algorithms. It can be controlled with a wireless footswitch like the P1/P2, which could make it a viable live tool, but like yourself, the price then creeps up and you may as well use a more appropriate multifx device. Not to mention, I'm not convinced the headphone output going direct to FOH would be as good as a dedicated line out or XLR DI out on other "gig ready" devices.

FYI, whilst I’ve just rebought it, I sold the Capo because I felt the Boom Ave was 95% there on the sound/magic the Capo had. With an Octaver, Comp/Boost/Mute Switch and Big Muff Fuzz it’s everything I likely need on a gig, but with the above post, bigger than the zoom, no headphone, no battery or phantom power to power it, no bluetooth, yadda yadda.

But as a grab and go rig, I think it’s better than the Sansamp Flyrig (either version)

Appreciate the insight from everyone here.

Currently I have (far too much) an Audient Audio Interface, NUX Mighty Plug, NUX Mighty Plug Pro, Zoom MS60b, Zoom MS70CDR, Sonicake Boom Ave.

Then stuff I don’t include in this realm, 2 Groove Tube Ditto’s, JF Capo, Summit TD-100, SFX IEM Mixer and DI, Countryman Type 10, 3 Radial Stagebugs and a few pedals for fun.

My requirements are quite unique (weird), my lifestyle allow me to travel a lot and I always carry a bass with me, or am lucky enough to be visiting somewhere I have family where I’ve left a bass and some equipment for me.

To clarify my obsession with weight and size is due to me mainly travelling with hand luggage and checking a bass…. and you can’t check lithium batteries into the hold.

The NUX Mighty Plug was great and the Mighty Plug Pro should have been an upgrade and for the most part it is, the USB C means I can charge it with the same cable I charge everything else, it works as an audio interface with my iPad and I can bluetooth music too it from my phone, it’s also got IR loading so you can get a really nice sound out of it.

All of this is great except, no octaver, no weird fx, interface doesn’t lend itself to heavily messing with fx (I tend to use it as an amp, ir and maybe compression) can only ever be used as a practice device and finally has a weird digital rattle in the high end which is audible when playing on your own. I’ll probably just suck it up and wait until a Pro 2 or 3 comes out.

Then I have the Zoom’s (I have 2 so I don’t have to always carry one, one is with me and one is in the UK currently), I can transfer settings and swap fx between them. I can hack fx from the CDR on to the B and vice versa and if I need another I can pick them up for £50 ish and load the same fx and presets on quickly. It sounds pretty good,  (far better than the 506 of my youth), I can get some really obscure sounds that stop me from buying really expensive pedals, it runs on usb, 9v standard and AA’s so I can leave it in the case when checking, also means I get to a jam I can just throw it down on the floor and be away.

Issues with it are no usb c,, no simple master volume control to knock down a patch you’ve set too loud in your bedroom, no headphone so I have to use the NUX with it, which means I’m rarely playing with the amps in the Zoom because the NUX sounds lacklustre without one on and switching between multiple devices and interfaces isn’t conducive to creativity or simply playing.

These 2 basically do everything I need (but not want).

The wants then expand into

Whatever I have above I also need a DI box, maybe that’s all I’ll take on a gig but it’s not all I’m carrying with me.

Then I also carry a Behringer P2 on the off chance I get an IEM feed.

Then this is all practice quality stuff, I still have loads of gear for when I’m in the UK and doing recording or more serious gigging.

This ultimately means a lack of consistency between live, practice, jam, recording and whatever rigs. Not the end of the world but often leaves you longing for one when you only have access to the other.

So really I was hoping for a crossover between these 2 devices which the P2 really looked like. The P1 was really close initially but I didn’t like I couldn’t reorder the fx chain (takes me back to multi’s from the early 00’s).

So the device now that has me most tempted currently is the Kemper Player, it’s bigger than everything mentioned but smaller than everything I’m carrying. The only issue for me is power and usb.

This will sound silly but all of these play into what I carry, currently I power everything from 2 usb c leads (easy to replace if needed too) so adding usb c to b is another cable, or a small adaptor (I have several for lightning, micro and mini usb I carry currently).

The power supply is another, what happens if I lose it, break it, snap a pin on the adaptor due to a drunk singer a jam night. I also can’t run an IEM feed through it. Power supply is also the size of 4 NUX’s? maybe heavier.

This has lead me almost full circle to the Line 6 HX Stomp (which for some reason I’ve resisted massively even though an M13 replaced a huge pedalboard for me), again bigger than the Zoom and NUX, similar power issues to the Kemper but people have powered these from usb battery packs and 9v converters. I can live with the USB B adaptor that would be required on the Kemper. The cons are then a lack of bluetooth streaming (I can get round this with a 12 south airfly I use to connect my airpods to plane entertainment systems) and using this in the fx loop return is also how I can use the HX as an IEM mixer live, but finally no xlr.

I was so excited the HX One would be the Line 6 version of Zoom MS series.

I’m aware how specific my plight is and also how first world it is, but we’re also in the FX section of a Bass forum so I feel it fits.

Other things I’ve tried, audio interface and apps. This was my main gig rig for ages, I had a tiny line 6 sonic port, moved away from rigs and fx completely. Until a disastrous iOS update stopped the interface working. Since then much has changed, there are some really great usb c interfaces that work with my ipad (not my phone yet sadly, or not without more adaptors) and apps like Tonex are far beyond what once replaced my rig. But taking a £1500 iPad Pro that is your main work device and you make all your income on to a jam night?

Or taking your phone and having it on that same stage (when it’s the thing that holds copies of your passport, all your banking info, all your flight tickets) what do you do if that gets smashed up because you wanted to play mustang sally one night in Buenos Aires.

So I could get an iRig HD or similar and replace the NUX (but even that minimal equipment isn’t as quick and easy as the NUX) and there is this issue of with the NUX you can turn the device up and bluetooth down (or volume on your phone down) when using an audio interface there is one volume, so you find yourself turning up volumes and gain on amp sims to match the music volume.

Again minor but all of these things get in the way of an organic creative experience. That creative experience where you turn up to a jam night with a killer synth sound that you’ve been crafting whilst jamming Taylor Swift tracks or whatever floats your boat and you’re really familiar with the equipment because you spend hours and hours with it, not just an ancillary device you tack on because you wanted a bit of octave on something.

And there is my brain dump for the evening, enjoy.

39 minutes ago, Bagman said:

It’s only January 14th and I’ve already purchased 2 pedals

 

Low impulse control maybe

I’m on 3 😈

22 minutes ago, Tripehound said:

Mine arrived two days ago. Yes - works pretty well either with Bluetooth or Wi-Fi (or both!). Separate volume controls for rig, aux and master. Created its own hot spot. Overwhelming number of profiles available, many of the guitar ones sounding amazing right out of the box. Still trying to find the perfect bass tone but already found a great Super Bassman profile (I get misty-eyed thinking of the one I used to own). Effects are - well - ok but not stellar. Combo button function not working and pending an update of firmware apparently. This means only one effect linked to a foot switch in practice. Need to test usb midi next. Very good build quality.

That’s great to know, with the profiles you can download do people capture pedals as well as amps? I’ve found this on Tonex which is more fun for variation as basically just find 1 amp sound I like and stick with it.

But what I realised with Tonex is I can’t load rigs from an ios device, I can’t use it as a practice tool to play along tracks etc so the pedal becomes redundant.

@SumOne this is now sticking in my mind over the Mooer and Nux. Bigger than both for sure but too big? Better quality than all the unit’s we’re discussing, could potentially replace the Zoom with weirder stuff and has the IO for gigging.

Overkill for practice? Certainly but the more roles it fulfils (jam pedal, audio interface, looper, multi fx, core of a live rig, etc) the more it justifies it’s cost and size.

I feel there has to be some common programming language between these platforms zoom, nux, mooer, sonicake etc 

They can’t all be reinventing the wheel making a digital rat every single company.

Someone just needs to make a third party app where we can pick and choose our favourite apps and load them on to the device that suits our needs.

…. and then if any of them can just put an xlr out on it

Cab sims isn’t so bad because you can load any third party ir.

2 hours ago, SumOne said:

No synth. Quite a lot of effects though (19 distortion, 14 modulation, 9 delays, 6 reverb,etc.). One of the filters is quite good. It has a looper. Generally I'd say the Zoom effects are probably better, there's not a huge difference though. 

 

I might be wrong, but I don't think there are Bass specific amps and Cabs:

 

 

Thanks I had read the manual a while back and remembered being unimpressed with the list, somehow was hopeful it was different when it arrived 😂

2 hours ago, stewblack said:

I'm surprised there's no bass stuff on the new model. The original gives you a choice of bass or guitar  at the very start.

 

 

Weird isn’t it it’s perfect yet terrible at the same time.

I use my nux for practice but without a single bass amp (tbh I don’t care which) the Mooer can’t replace it.

Without any bass specific or random fx it also can’t replace my zoom as a back up rig or something I can just throw on the floor for a jam.

Maybe a firmware update will come and solve these problems for me.

Form factor, interface and io is perfect for what I want 🙄

1 hour ago, SumOne said:

I've got a chain with 11 effects in it and that seems the limit, they don't have to be in set positions or set effect types as with some multi-fx. 

 

You can use effect types multiple times before I guess it reaches processing limits e.g. Mucking about I've got a chain with 5x delays, 2x Amps, 3x overdrive and a comp - it won't allow me to change the comp to one of the other types. 

Which is cool, but I assume none of the weird stuff like in the zoom? Synths? particle reverb? Pitch delays?

What amp sim are you using since there are no bass specific amps?

looper?

It’ll be up for sale around Mid February but I can send you some pictures of it next weekend

Any noise? I hear a high end digital almost rattle with my Mighty Plug that is really starting to annoy me.

Does it have an octaver?

Have to admit, looks cool

Are you able to confirm if you can connect your phone to it and play songs via bluetooth to play along with? I didn’t want to ask in the guitar forums for fear of looking lonely with no one to play with.

21 minutes ago, maidens97 said:

that does sound like a great idea, if I ever need to swap wireless for some reason I’ll consider that! The Shure unit is absolutely solid though and runs at 5.8ghz so I feel a lot more confident with that as I’ve had issues with cheaper units in the past using 2.4ghz 

Yeah wasn’t sure if yours was the older 2.4 model in which case it would be a lateral move.

Since you have the 5.8 it’s a downgrade.

Surprisingly this is a brand new unit and they do 5.8 for some IEM packs but chose to go with 2.4 for this 🤷🏻‍♂️🙄