Pirellithecat

Thanks for all the comments! I guess I am rather lazy, but the App/PC interface on the Mod Dwarf looks really intuitively easy to use - and would be great for setting up sounds for particular tracks. S'manth - thanks for the pointer. Thinking about it, I do use different effects in different parts of the same song - usually it's the intro or chords to fill out parts in "quieter" sections, and it would be great to be able to continue to do this without adding a pedal. I guess one could have different scenes for different sections ????? But I wonder about the ease of finding them in the heat of the moment...... Do other units have a similar "pictogram" style user interface on the PC/app??

Great response. Many thanks 👍

I realise that this topic has probably been done to death ..... but ....... I'd like a "pedal" to provide a number of "scenes" for live gigging use. Covers band so lots of different styles (from Creedence Clearwater to Ghost, via Miley Cyrus) and no time between songs to fiddle/reset pedal settings. Don't want to scroll through lots of options, just want a simple device to allow a couple of different EQ's (two basses so be great to be able to swap without having to tinker), Octave, Chorus, Compression, Drive, Synth/organ plus a Tuner (muted signal when using) which can be combined, where necessary, to provide a tailored sound specific to a particular songs. A volume pedal would be nice too. Not too fussed about dozens of different amp/cab sims, but would be nice to use for practice so Aux in, Headphones out, plus a D.I. I've had a go on my son's Line 6 Pod Go, but it's far too complex for me and provides far more than I need. Thought a HX Stomp or maybe the Zoom B6n might do the trick but even they seem way over-specced for my rudimentary needs. Just need a set of buttons on the floor, maybe displaying the name of the "Scene". Is this unrealistic or am I just being lazy??

Just as a reminder ........ the OP was looking for answers concerning whether IEM's might be the solution to helping him hear the vocals, especially as the mix only contains vocals. I'd say, give an ambient Mic a whirl (plus IEM's) - I don't think you need to invest much in terms of an expensive mic, I used an old Samson vocal mic (12 years old and picks up everything!). I guess you'll need a mic stand and that's about it.

Prior to investing in a H4N Pro, I thought I'd try an old Mic to capture the live sound. as we're all in the mixer anyway it's no more hassle than adding another device so I thought why not. Worked surprisingly well! Tried it again at last weeks rehearsal this time just with vocals in the mixer feed. Again really surprising benefit. Re-instates that live feel and lets you pick up the vocal chat off mic. The ambient Drum sound is really helpful and again is surprisingly "present", especially the kick!

OK Ta.

Well .... why not .... Very modified Squire Precision Special, into a few pedally things and into the Genzler Magellan 800 plus a couple of Mesa Subway Ultralites. Lots of room this weekend and new IEMs getting a run out. All looked a bit more "Rock an' Roll once the house light were off!! 🤠 The hat was resting.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. In light of which I shall, - endeavour to get guitar(s) (and bass) to FOH, as advised - continue to negotiate the stage sound levels down a little. - chill out and improve my IEM approach - look for a new band, sell PA and get on with enjoying playing bass. Sorted 🤭 Thanks everyone.

Thanks Bill. Working on it!! But still resistance as the baked in belief is that it's not possible to get "that" sound without driving the guitar amp/ cab. And the ear plugs are just that! And the cab has a slanted top baffle!! I'm doomed,🙄😓

I'd be deaf within a month ........ Problem solved I guess 😀

A bit of an Update ..... and a question. Been "implementing" the changes outlined in this post. The GOOD STUFF All instruments in mix but only Vocals and Kick/Snare to FOH. Reducing Stage Volume and ensuring better monitor positioning makes it possible to control feedback. It's very difficult to get the idea over that, if one feed is too loud, it's better to reduce it rather than increase ALL the others to get the balance right. But, I guess, he who has the mixer can overcome this!! Using new Shure 215 IEM's (via Xvive U4) which are excellent in reducing Stage Volume (for my ears!) . Used an ambient mic (an old vocal mic with poor noise rejection!) on a mic stand positioned just above head height and "aimed" to catch as much ambient sound as possible. This really does make a very big difference in the "feels like I'm playing live" experience and could become the main "feed" into the IEM mix with some additional bass to help hear the notes better. Last night's gig (pic), worked really well (for me at least) certainly to start with. The BAD Stuff 2/3rds of the way through 1st set it all fell apart. Finally dawned on me that the Guitarist had turned up both guitar amps , "only a smidge", 'cos from his position, with his ear plugs in, he felt the sound was a bit thin and he couldn't feel the guitar. And anyway (I kid you not) the punters walking in front of the band didn't flinch so we weren't too loud!! Question Any good way to stop this happening ..... or tips on how to tackle it? Or ...... Anyone need a bass player, with great PA set-up, somewhere in the North West!!😂

Tried a Zoom Q2N-4K at rehearsal this week. Promising. Set up unit on top of a mic stand in the "audience position", sent Headphone "out" to mixing desk, mixed this with the vocal and bass feeds and sent via Aux Send to my wireless/in ears. Worked fairly well for a first attempt. I don't think the Q2N-4K is the right tool for me though, as there would be a debate about video vs sound etc. and I don't need the hassle. However, the H4N Pro, (although more expensive) would work alone using one of the mic inputs for the bass, mixed in with sound from the onboard mics, freeing up an Aux send. ........... Might be too late, but this plus in ear might do the trick, combining the need for IEMs' for sound isolation from a noisy stage whist keeping that "live" feel. I might just try a stand alone mic first, but the Zoom solution is very flexible and tidy. Thanks for the pointer Dood!

The updated PJ shared gigging duties last night. Works a treat! My old basses (just finished fettling my MIJ Squier P too) are now both excellent beasts. Very different, both really good to play, really nice necks, and both sound very good (but not using the same EQ!!). Used live, the absence of insertion loss and a blend knob make life much easier. The EMG set-up sounds good - nice punchy pickups (Geezer Butler PJ)which blend well, making the tone control on the bass (nice to have but) fairly redundant. It's remarkable how different the PJ sounds to the P, even with the P pup soloed - both nice but completely different. I suspect that if I were looking fo new (additional) basses now I would be looking active, or a single pick-up solution to see how those set-ups compare ............... I'd definitely like to see how a Stingray (Sterling ...) or the Sandberg Central compare in the wild ......... but other things to sort first on the PA/IEM front. So maybe December ............ Christmas after all.

Update. Before changing pickups I tried the P out at a couple of gigs. It was very good. So, thought I'd treat it to a setup at The Guitar Workshop (Manchester). And it's brilliant. They did a great job of setting it up and refiling the nut slots. It now sounds unmuffled and is a delight to play. Nice low action, no buzzing, tunes well and sounds like an old P The pup is a tad hot and maybe a tad bassy but can now be EQ'd. Might try swapping it one day but for now it's fine.