sunburstjazz1967

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1453736777' post='2962281'] JT's band are called The Crossfire based in Kent I believe? [/quote] I see he is no longer in that band but is in the gallery on their website, complete with music stands! Any links to your new band please JTUK?

[quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1453740764' post='2962334'] Ah, I see this has turned into another covers band thread. [/quote] I disagree, regarding covers bands most have their own pa and would/should have the appropriate kit, this topic concerns your typical multi band show be they covers or original bands imo?

[quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1453734983' post='2962251'] Do you have a band website or fb page. We are growing as a band but still clearly a way behind you judging by the gigs you are doing. It be great to see more about your band. [/quote] JT's band are called The Crossfire based in Kent I believe?

So do you pull out of a gig if the pa has behringer wedges rather than db ones JTUK? Or do you not take the booking unless they supply you with the sound crew's number before hand? If the organiser hasn't even decided which company to give the job to that could be difficult. Turn up and do my best with what I'm given, if it's a crap fest we don't go back next time.

Even if the venue tell you what wedges they have a cheaper non screwed one is better than a top end one that is ruined and full of beer anyway.

If you were near the front you would hear vocals too, until we can get a di from the musicians brains they will need to make some noises!

[quote name='skychaserhigh' timestamp='1453647479' post='2961338'] Metallica have already done it in Antarctica. [/quote] Beat me to it. Times change as does technology, a non upright bass? Nah never happen.

[quote name='danbowskill' timestamp='1453629761' post='2961093'] A heavy metal gig with everyone wearing headphones???.......can never see that ever happening imo......plus how many kids play 18+ venues [/quote] It already has, they are called silent concerts.

I've found a lot of these 'mates' aren't so matey if you haven't got anything to give them!

[quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1453640056' post='2961256'] The fact of the matter is the sound coming out FOH isn't the sound you hear on stage from your rig. Even if you mic it, it's still going through their FOH so will sound different. [/quote] Exactly

[quote name='2elliot' timestamp='1453641033' post='2961268'] That sounds awful... in more ways than one. It's certainly not what I would class as going to see a gig. The punters may as well stay at home and watch it on a monitor, for that matter the band may as well be at home and not necessarily at the same one as the other members of the group. [/quote] It's already happening.

[quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1453640214' post='2961260'] On your own/On your own. [/quote] I'm not sure what that means?

I can see a time where the big names start endorsing iem systems and di boxes rather than cabs. The younger players are embracing technology and they are the next batch of purchasers, the dinosaurs won't be here for ever deafening themselves. Silent gigs are already there where the audience all where head phones, imagine a group of kids that could wear head phones plugged into their phone with an app that mixes them all together via wifi including fx etc and recording capability compared to setting up a load of expensive heavy kit their parents have to drive around!

[quote name='IanA' timestamp='1453586879' post='2960913'] Too much back line volume kills the FOH sound, I use IEM's where possible... No more volume issues👍 I wonder whether in the future back line might become a thing of the past [/quote] Exactly. I discussed the idea of having a black star cloth the width of the stage with an Ampeg stack sewn onto it with some red power leds for effect!

[quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1453584782' post='2960888'] Wedge speakers tend to be full range and tend to be issued towards vocals. Not bad but far from ideal for bass. [/quote] But the signal can be processed with much more expensive eq kit than we tend to have in our amps, by the time it hits the monitors the flub and wasted power that we feed our bass cabs can be removed giving a monster bass tone right in your face.

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1453585827' post='2960899'] I don't think I'm getting some of the posts here. Should I [i]not[/i] turn up to gigs with my bass head and cab? [size=4] [/size] [/quote] The world is moving on, wireless in ears or a high end stage monitor and pro quality pa speakers at pub band money available so there is no reason why you need a cab really.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1453581635' post='2960848'] Do you ask..and if they told you would you know what they were..?? [/quote] I played the Robin in bilston a while ago, best bass sound ever in my monitor, far better than the £2000 worth of my rig that wad barely doing anything behind me. My old function band had an EV pa, the tops and bins could pump out much more smooth fat bass than a backline bass amp even with a 8x10.

I've seen people arsing around with some cheap Laney cabs or similar when there was an active RCF £1300 monitor right in front of them, only the best of the best cabs could match that.

Because they use much better quality speakers!

Most bass player obsess over their £500 bass cabs yet the wedge infront of them is often far superior, a di box is all that is needed if there is a proper pa!

What if the band uses music stands, charge more or not at all?

Good luck, I think 6-8 would be seen as fairly low and a cheaper bass might need the extra height to get some thump going. Some rockabillies wouldn't get a tune out of it lower than 14mm, lol. String type and tension will alter things too, I think 8-10 will be a good starting point to cover various styles of music.

Afaik when people say they have "an 8-10mm" action this is 8mm on the G RISING to 10mm on the E, not lower on the E side. Edit to say "mine is about 8-10mm" lol.

[quote name='Vinny' timestamp='1453404869' post='2959292'] Yep - about seven hours of it. I had this film inflicted on me - felt like about a week I won't get back. Guess you have to buy into the whole jazz thing. [/quote] Ah you won't be wanting to borrow the extra footage dvd then?!

It wouldn't surprise me if it was the same one you know!