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Geek99

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  1. 17 minutes ago, TimR said:

     

    Ah. Sorry. It was the guitarist rushing. 

     

    Learning versions of songs is only useful to get an idea of how the song goes in a rough fashion. Once you know its a blues progression, everyone will just play around. They'll throw in solos, extra verses, double, triple, quadruple choruses etc. 

     

    The point of learning to read charts is; if there is someone with a chart, you can just step in and follow it. If someone is expecting you to follow a chart on first viewing without knowing the tune - it will be a very simple chart/song. 

     

    Even better, take your own charts for songs you know and hope there's a singer who knows the tunes.

    I’m not sure anyone was rushing I think they just play fast al the time even the singer commented on it being so, the guitarist was super loud and very confident.  Nice guy but a stereotype player. @Downunderwonder I was first up as I was in their direct line of sight and yes somewhat ambushed as I’d given up on them due to the late start such that I really had to be on my way. 
     

  2. 2 hours ago, TimR said:

    As others have said, it's a jam. 

     

    Everyone's interpretation of a tune will be different because you haven't rehearsed together. That's the whole idea.

     

    Not much you can do with a drummer who doesn't play solid time other than hope they have a different one available next time.

     

    If it's too loud make sure you're wearing ear plugs. 

     

    Learn to read charts. 

    I’m sure the drummer knew what he was doing, I just couldn’t hear him. I was right by drums, to his right. I looked at a few versions of tab and cover version. 

  3. 1 hour ago, Geek99 said:

    I’d look at any instrument that was better quality than the standard of my playing and keep the change.

     

    So, one $150 squier affinity later … 

    That’s with a busted pickup and a poor relic job naturally 

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  4. I’ve spoken to the organiser (who wasn’t there that night) and he is wisely telling me not to overthink this, suggesting that I come along for a few nights and don’t play and get to know people instead. He suggests that a combination of needing to go, going first and not feeling comfortable didn’t help (own failures notwithstanding)
     

     

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  5. 22 minutes ago, Gasman said:

    Hey @Geek99, just interested to notice, a member since 2008, over 7000 posts but not used to playing in a band and a bit fazed by a 12 bar sequence? Are you a classical double bassist by any chance?

    No, I have kids, a disabled partner and a ton of work to do on my house. My bass spent 7 years in a wardrobe when we moved in. 
    im not phased by a 12 bar 

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  6. 3 minutes ago, Gasman said:

    Everyone messes up sometimes, (even our superb lead guitarist has been known to forget to put a capo on) so don’t worry. Part of the art of being a bass player is the ability to fumble around down the shiny end of the neck while you work out who to follow in what key!

    Thanks 

    I’ve been thinking about the root causes of this. Inadequate preparation, edge of curfew so less willing to get up and felt pressured, loud band of people completely unknown to me, couldn’t hear drummer, not used to playing in a band 

    they kept turning me up and I knew I had got lost and kept reducing my volume (not proud of that part)

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  7. On 30/01/2024 at 15:17, gerryc said:

    Someone is trying to sell me a DB that is in need of some work. Yes you are absolutely right, do I really need two DBs (I think it was more a case of want more than need).

    He’s got me confused … how on earth could that happen to anyone ? You’re weird Mister 🧐

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  8. Just now, Greg Edwards69 said:

    PS. Don't beat yourself up too much. It sounds like some of the other musicians have awareness issues. The drums and bass should set the tempo and the guitarist should listen, not lead.

     

    It may be helpful to memorise some standard chord progressions as well, such as 12 bar blues (which Johnny B Goode uses). If you use the Nashville numbering system (sounds complex, it's not) it takes the songs key out the equation.

    That’s good advice though I was ready to play it in either A or B 

    this surprised me as I wasn’t phased  and normally would have been

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  9. 30 minutes ago, TheGreek said:

    I remember when I first started playing having a jam with someone who I thought was experienced only to find them playing 14 bars in a 12 bar blues tune.

    Blew my confidence for a while till I realised that they were blagging it - they weren't that good or experienced.

    These guys were, and very loud. They were very nice about it and I appreciated that. 
    I ran into my drummer buddy on the way out along with his lovely wife; I told him

    I’d messed up and he said “I know you; you’ll bounce back”

     

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  10. I totally corpsed it at jam night last night but I learned a few things

     

    i have two  nights a month agreed with partner as acceptable. We have a lot on to do but she accepts that I WFH full time and need to get out of the house. I have to be back by 10 as the dogs barking will wake the kids. No issue with that. I don’t get much if any practice time but managed to play through and chart Johnny b Goode in B 


    the usual drummer there knows I have a curfew and promised to get me

    on early but got distracted and another band went on at 9. The singer kept telling them to slow down and he was visibly struggling to keep up. They spotted me and my bass two minutes before I had to leave and I felt pressured to go on, conflicted as I had to get going, slightly nervous anyway plus also wary of the speed thing. 


    They spent ages arguing about whether to do it in A or B, settling on B and then telling me my starting note was A. I knew that was wrong.  The guitarist then took off at breakneck speed before stopping, and waiting for everyone else before going off at breakneck speed again. I realised it was all going to pot and then lost my place. At the end I apologised for losing the plot and they said they hadn’t realised I had a curfew. I told them I’d come back better next time 

    I learned that

    1. I cannot see the position clearly if I’m not lit. The stage looked bright from out in the room but I realised it wasn’t when I got there. More than once I realised that I was a fret out 

    2. I’ll never buy a dark wood f board for that reason 

    3. there’s no guarantee that a band will

    stick to the original speed, or arrangement 

    4. I’ve played successfully with other solo players but never a band, I need to practice with a drummer, perhaps I can ask the usual drummer if he can spare some

    time 

    5. I need more practice 

    6. it was shockingly loud and I could not hear the drummer 

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  11. 1 hour ago, Doctor J said:

     

    Either way, Geek99 is right, now it means nothing other than the instrument is old and old does not necessarily mean good.

    That’s only part of what I was saying, I was noting that a Kay might not be referred to as “vintage” by some people due to a kind of snobbery about perceived quality, whereas most people would not question calling a 30 year old Fender or Gibson “vintage”. Example “japcr ap” is often bandied around as a term that is claimed to be affectionate 

  12. I think vintage is about years but there’s also an unspoken expectation of “quality item” back then also. Kay’s are as old as a same year fender but I’m not sure that people would look at them the same way 

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