Jenny_Innie

[quote name='Bottle' timestamp='1422796674' post='2676806'] I've now listened to the track again through a decent pair of headphones, and it sounds soo much fuller. It's got some real low-down grunt but the note definition is much better with the 2x10 added in as well. [/quote] Yeah, honestly. Headphones and good speakers are great - but Listening live, it sounds like there is a sub in the room.

Oh yes! Look at my topics. I have a TC RH750 which I use through two Barefaced cabs - a Generation 2 Compact and one of those new fangled 2x10s of theirs. Both weigh in at 13.1 KG (with their RoqSolid covers on) and are easy to carry. As for the sound? Nailed!

[quote name='Bottle' timestamp='1422782533' post='2676619'] Haven't been able to play through decent speakers yet, and my laptop speakers have absolutely no bass response but what I've head so far sounds great. That BF cab combination is going to take some beating. @OP Have you tried playing through just the 2x10 or the Compact for comparison? [/quote] Yeah. The Compact itself is great. Lovely sound, but put it in a punk band situation and I sometimes can't distinguish the notes. People in the audience said it sounded great and meaty and room filling - and the other Jenny our drummer likes it ....... but I need a bit more definition. The Barefaced on its own is better in all those respects. It has a sort of grainy sound ...... old skool I think a lot of oldies would call it. Very good BUT .... I've got the 12 Ohm one and, even with a TC RH750 ...... which shatters the earth's core with the Compact ...... doesn't give enough volume. I'm just about to order a 4 Ohm one. Together, they are colossus. Best sound ever, ever. Lots of everything. Sounds so low that you would swear that there is a sub in the room but all the bite you need. Interestingly, the geetarist and I sometimes compete for spectrum - but not with the Compact-Retro Two10 set up.

[quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1422612231' post='2674546'] Great sound ! Is that a Hugh Cornwell track ? [/quote] Yeah. Some post on here a while back linked to some band he was in - and, coincidentally, I went with my mum to see one of her fave artists on tour and he was the other act on the bill. He had a girl bassist who was the bomb and I bought his album from the merchandise stand. All pretty dope. That's a track on that album with a well-cool bass line.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1422551731' post='2674039'] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xby81m1GtH8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xby81m1GtH8[/url] [/quote] Say jit gone BAM or what?

[quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1422551826' post='2674040'] I also think it's rather sad episode. But this point did make me smile! [/quote] Old men and hair has always perplexed me. See, girls who colour their locks have it done in textures and layers and subtle changes of shade here and there. Now, I guess this guy has money - so why did he have such a crap job done all in a colour that doesn't exist in nature? And don't get me started on old blokes with pony tails.

Man he so old even I could put him down. Hope he didn't smudge his hair dye.

So, y'wanna know what a Barefaced Retro Two10 sounds like? This is my TC Electronic RH750 played through a 12 Ohm Barefaced Retro Two 10 and a Barefaced 2nd Generation Compact together. No pedals, no nuthin. [url="https://soundcloud.com/the-innies/god-is-a-woman"]https://soundcloud.c.../god-is-a-woman[/url] The bass is my Fender Japanese late 80s Jazz with replacement pickups by Hot Rod Pickups. It's got a "Thumper" P-bass pickup (had to be re-routed) in the neck and an '84 at the bridge. This tune uses the P-Bass and the tone full-on with the bridge about 1/4 on. Played with a pick of course. Some "Tweeter Tone" and "Tube Tone" For the detail-minded: captured the sound in the local village hall, nobody there but me, cabs in the corner and two SM57s pointing about 3 inches from the grills mid-axis - one at the Compact and one at one of the speakers in the Retro Two10. Both going through a Focusrite interface straight into my MacBook Pro with Logic Pro X. Drums courtesy of other Jenny and her programming digits on Logic. She knows a groove. Now don't go playin' this thru no lame-ass sound system. You gotta play this though an audiophile stuff or with some absolutely no tat allowed headphones. This is the sound I'm talkin' about. Those two Barefaceds with the RH750 are [size=6]MONSTER![/size]

You don't do covers exactly like the originals do you? If you did, you might as well have a DJ playing a CD.

Do you think it actually will be 2000 watts? Will it be much louder than a PF800 or an RH750 for example? It's also quite a cheap thing. Does that mean it'll be quite low quality?

Have you heard this bass? Probably not. Because you would be dead! [attachment=181990:bass with balls.jpg]

[quote name='Huge Hands' timestamp='1421495236' post='2661937'] Looks like I spoke too soon. Sorry for the blurry image..... Merton, as you can see I went for the silver cloth grille, but after seeing the photo of them in the shop., I'm kind almost wishing I went for the black! I have tried them at low volume and sound good as a pair (neighbours aren't keen on the noise) - really light too which is what I wanted. Just waiting for Monday night when I can really put them through their paces! I'm happy to meet up whenever you want - would love to try your Super Compact! [/quote] Well?

[quote name='ColinB' timestamp='1420812346' post='2653757'] Don't listen to him..... it's going to be great! [/quote] Ain't no disappointment comin' my way. Depend on it!

The logo is alright. No better or worse than others I've seen. If you get hung up on that, I suspect it is a 1st World problem. The cab, taken as a whole, looks rather good. Bit of an update on the cab. I've had a chance to play around with it. I'm sort of changing my mind on it a little bit. Played part of a set with it at the weekend - firstly with a Guild electro acoustic bass along with a sax player, an acoustic geetarist and a brushes drummer. Still using the RH750. It was great. Then (unexpectedly to me) we cranked up, got rid of the brushes and in came a Telecaster - and it was fine (as a one cab thing). 3/4 of the way 'round the dial on the RH, but still great. i loved the sound. Mind you, I did put a Line 6 Pod thing in front of it - so maybe a little bit of pre-amp goes a long way? I dunno. I think, part of the problem might be other Jenny - our drummer. She's a bit on the loud side - which makes the band a bit loud altogether ....... hence me running out of headroom maybe? Changed my mind a little bit on it. I think, in the right circumstances, it could (even at 12 Ohms) be a one-cabber. Although, still would get a 4 Ohmer if that's all I was gonna have. And I still have in mind that the sound with the Compact is the utter bomb. I'm now contemplating if I should run with two of these instead of one of these and a Compact. They look cooler, are effectively as light (see my previous comments) and a bit smaller and easier to store. Might look way cool to have two of these. I shall speak to the man and see wot he says.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1420141271' post='2646086'] To the OP: Great review! Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts with us But.... as this thread title mentions the dreaded word "Barefaced" - lots of other issues raise their heads! Not only that, but the old chestnut about TC and their "liberal" power ratings... Once again to the OP: Many of us old crusties on here have spent decades in our quest to find the ultimate in amplification, never mind the relatively recent phenomenon of the "one-cab-solution"!! You have embarked on a long and interesting journey - one fraught with euphoria, frustration and depression in equal measures. You will grow as a person while on that journey, but (and this may be news to some) you may never reach your destination... Still, as Swing Out Sister once sang - "It's better to travel". Good luck on your quest young one! [/quote] This is a winning post.

...... err, I'm actually 5'4". But I have had more of a fiddle with the Retro Two10. The two cab sound I'm getting is to die for. I'm getting the hang of this expectation thing.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1420141954' post='2646097'] Nail hit firmly on the head there! [/quote] Yeah, but you have to remember that life looks a little different where you're 5'2" and 8st 4 lbs. Light and small gear is good. Heavy stuff isn't an option.

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1328997434' post='1535958'] My fave JJ moment: When the bass comes in on Hanging Around. It really sounds like the bass amp is actually in your room, playing along to the track. Fantastic bass moment that. [/quote] OMG. Hello. Who are these guys? Now THAT is a bass sound. Where did that come from ?

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1419980379' post='2644652'] I never saw Most of this thread till now, it took me all day to type my reply out in between work and playing shadow of mordor. What a load of moaning old nit pickers. [/quote] Old geezers eh? Whoda thunk?

[quote name='No lust in Jazz' timestamp='1419946999' post='2644184'] Well, for me there are a lot of conclusions drawn from one rehearsal; [/quote] The clue is in the title of the post.

I get the idea that the 12 Ohm version is intended as a modular thing. I obviously didn't order it, so didn't make that choice. In fact, he who did, says he figured I'd use it with the Compact. I'm just saying that the RH450 and especially the RH750 will blow the roof off the shack at full chat through the Compact (and the same with the MiBass 550 I used later) - while through the Two10, they were not loud enough to compete with a drummer and guitarist. If you're using one of these as a one-cab solution, I'd go for the 4 Ohm version. I guess that's how they were intended. I'm not sure what to make of all of the mumbo jumbo about watts. Here's my thinking. The RH450 (whatever wattage it is) is crazy loud through a Compact. The couple of times I have used it live, I couldn't get the dial past halfway without complaints from the drummer and guitarists that I was too loud. Our drummer (also Jenny) is like the muppet drummer too. She has one level - ear shattering, which is both annoying and good at the same time. The RH750, noticeably more so. If you need more than one of either of them in a pub or club gig - then you need a hearing test. The only issue I have now is the look of the two cabs together. I might go looking for a Compact with a silver cloth front (assuming the new Retro Two10 cloth is the same as the Compact).

[quote name='HazBeen' timestamp='1419894844' post='2643837'] - TC E's rating of 450/750 watts are inflated (as many D class manufacturers do), the 450 putts out 236 watts continuous at 4 Ohm and 133 at 8. I do not know what exact 750 figures are but it will be around 475 at 4 and 250 at 8. It will be max 150 at 12 Ohms. - Barefaced created the 12 Ohm 210 to be part of a modular speaker system not a standalone cab. They offer a 4 ohm version I believe. - Doubling power only gives you marginal increase in volume, increasing speaker surface area is much more effective. - Playing with a pick often requires a tweater to get that high end fizzle So if you want a single cab solution go for the lightest cab with most speaker surface area, a 212 is indeed a good suggestion and get one at 4 ohm with tweater. Volume difference between a 450 vs 750 watt D class head is pretty much negligible with the cabs you have. [/quote] I disagree with pretty much all of this post. "Playing with a pick requires a tweeter"?????? C'mon!!!!!