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[quote name='leftyhook' timestamp='1331077688' post='1567454'] How is he using it? not sure I understand [/quote] The way he's playing. I find it very irritating and not supportive of the music or the singer.

Can't stand the way he's using it but it's a nice effect. I like.

[b]Alright, so we know this sh*t happens for most of us, although it doesn't seem to happen all the time, what is this feeling of magic? What is it that makes you feel this way playing with other musicians (as opposed to listening to other musicians and feeling some magic)? What is it that makes it feel different to other forms of musical magic?[/b] [b]Is it the re/creation of something already in your mind, or is it the magic of something you haven't imagined yet?[/b]

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1331074891' post='1567400'] "Absolutely shocking. The only thing worse than greasy thumbprints and crumbs is when uncultured savages turn the corner of the page down to mark their place. Which is why I welcome the digital revolution. [b]i[/b]bass - sign me up!" [i]Mr DV, North Oxfordshire [/i] [color=#ffffff][i].[/i][/color] [/quote] Ooh I agree with Mr DV!

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1331047208' post='1566808'] Save me a space on the sofa skipper! [/quote] Barring feline occupation it's yours fella! I'll tell them to bugger off anyway Nx

[quote name='TheRockinRoadie' timestamp='1331061388' post='1567091'] Hi All, Nick Wells borrowed a bass from me a week or so ago (he's a big fan of my Miller!). He more or less said what Maxcat posted above - they're working on some big changes, and there's lots of brilliant ideas brewing. I think it's just a case of being patient until issue 3 is released, which hopefully will be soon. Nick is a great bloke, and I have a lot of faith in him - I'm sure everything will be fine, but I can understand why everyone is annoyed! That's my opinion anyway, Cheers, Lorry [/quote] He should be sending out regular comms to the people who are buttering his toast mate. There is absolutely no excuse in my book.

[quote name='CS2' timestamp='1331058528' post='1567035'] Currently I'm in two 'bands' and they are slightly unusual. The first one is a church music group that I played bass for 8 years and guitar for 6. There's 3 people on each instrument and we have a rota. It's a big band and so one has to be a bit disciplined in keeping parts sparse. There have been some magic moments but currently there are a lot of people who stare at the music and don't give off any vibes. More later. I also jam with 3 friends and we rotate instruments. I'm technically the bass player as I have more experience. We improvise instrumentals for 4 hours at a time. We have been up to 1 a month but one guy moved abroad so it's been 2-3 a year. He's back so we should pick up again. There are more magic moments than not and here's why. We knew each other via a musician board and we had arranged massive sessions in central London with as many as 10 guitarists drinking ourselves stupid (I know). Three of us got together to jam in a living room (with edrums, headphones). At the very first ahem rehearsal we discovered that we were completely on the same page musically. It didnt matter what combination we tried, it worked. Ok I can only do one drum beat but it worked. We decided to rehearse in a studio and the magic was still there. After a year or two a friend of one of the guys did the big puppy eyes thing and begged to come along. He was a bedroom player and initially killed the magic stone dead. We worked with him and after 5-6 rehearsal he got it and there's magic most times. The reason IMHO is that some players communicate. I don't mean shout out chorus but stop dead, change feel, change tempo and it's instant. Someone does a bum note and someone else fills in/plays more. The only way I can explain it is that there's a line from me to the other person or persons or there's not. In our band there's a line from each person to each person most of the time. In the church band it's barely there with one person most of the time nowadays. I know what I mean. [/quote] Like it mate! I know exactly what you mean too. I love my singers, they are all amazing, and there's a drummer I totally click with, and a guitarist. When the magic happens it really is magic. You can't engineer it at all, there are too many variables, it's a meeting of minds.

Ah, pics up. Your wrist position looks ok to me. It's odd and I can't think of any reason why you'd get wrist pain. Stick to the Ibby then maybe?

I had the same bass and it balanced perfectly. Anyway, we won't know until we see pics or a vid.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1331032364' post='1566478'] Great drummer. [/quote] He's a nice bloke too, for an American He won young drummer of the year aged 14 about 20 years ago. He was in Justin Hawkins' band Hot Leg.

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' timestamp='1331051291' post='1566889'] I used to get a lot of magical moments in one band I was in. We'd regularly land all the stops and starts virtually perfectly. Other bands and the studio owner/staff would come in and watch us if we were doing a pre-gig run through. The proprietor would just say "Go on then, show us how it's done!" And we would. Awesome band (for the most part) shame it broke up. [/quote] I like the sound of that! I'm very lucky, I play with some truly wonderful musicians. But I only love playing live and recording these days. Although writing does give me a big kick if I do something beautiful. It just seems rarer these days. I used to love rehearsing but I think I'd prefer it if they were much much longer.

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1331051414' post='1566892'] Fixed that you would hope a PROPER tutor the likes of Doddy and Dood would have the knowledge about left hand technique and could perform a better one on one assessment with visuals and point out any obvious flaws. [/quote] If you play fingerstyle, it is almost always going to be a compromise with tha leccy bass.

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1331050016' post='1566867'] If this was talk bass we could start a club Although I haven't had my wrists X-Rayed. they did how ever X-ray my elbows . My last appointment was "I think we're barking up the wrong tree but I'm goin to re-run a previous test just in case we get a different result. I don't think it will though. Oh and it's a years wait this time" [b]And Nigel as for "Rather advice from a bassist" Would it not make sense to see a PROPER Tutor who could see a problem in technique. After all how many Doctors receive training on Bass playing techniques? .[/b] [/quote] It's a fair point but how many bassists know about musculo-skeletal injuries and ergonomics? Evil Undead hasn't told us how many stringes her bass has, how long she plays for per day and at a stretch, when the pain kicks in, etc.

[quote name='Len_derby' timestamp='1331048744' post='1566833'] I agree with this and it neatly cross-references with the other thread about stage fright. I think for a lot of us the boost of adrenalin is what keeps us keen. As long as it's not too debilitating of course. [/quote] I never get nervous at all, only very occasionally and even then it's only very mild. I used to be petrified when I was a young'un in my 20s.

[quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1331043227' post='1566728'] Yeah totally, funnily enough though it always happens in different places in different songs each week! At last weeks rehearsal, Back To Black (Amy Winehouse) sounded incredible. Espeically the middle section. Everyone played their parts perfectly, the balance was just right, the pace, the volume. Really quite magical. But the week before was an outro to Forget You we've made up for gigs. Sounded so soulful, so perfect. The keys and the guitar were playing off each other, I was making lovely little runs in the right gaps and we were well and truly in the pocket! You gotta hold onto those little bits of magic and fight and work to get that feeling back, that's what being musician is all about. Truckstop [/quote] We had one last night too. Played onesong we like but we played it amazingly last night and we all got a great big buzz from it. It makes everything else worth the effort. Like risingsn though, I usually need an audience these days, I need their energy.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1331046148' post='1566784'] Looks like we're on at 10.30-ish so I'm not going to be able to make it... If you do get out of London, you need to come to Nottingham - no excuses! [/quote] I'll get it sorted immediately! Have a great gig mate, I'll think of you going on as we come off.

[quote name='Jayben' timestamp='1330967643' post='1565521'] I'm on the wrong end of the country, when you lot coming up Manchester way?? [/quote] Ah mate, I don't know. We need to get out of London for sure, but our new potential manager is coming to this gig and he may take us on and get us about more if he likes our performance. You can keep up with Kitty here [url="https://www.facebook.com/#!/kitrichardsonmusic"]https://www.facebook.com/#!/kitrichardsonmusic[/url] Cheers mate.

[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1331039058' post='1566638'] Right in front of me. Well, with enough space to rest my hands in front. And the mouse is right next to it. Both have the squidgy rests in front. Been through all this with an "H&S" inspector at work, and he insisted that all is well in that respect. [/quote] Sounds about right to me. Do you press very hard on the strings?

[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1331038476' post='1566619'] I work at a desk but I'm careful not to put strain on my hands and wrists while I'm typing. And I'm an iPhone user... But the only time I have any discomfort is when playing bass. [/quote] Where are your mouse, keyboard and monitor positioned? Or do you use a laptop only for long periods?

I used to get some huge thrills playing in bands, these days it's rare. I get good feelings quite often, and once in a while, a deeper thrill. It happens more often live, but while I used to love rehearsing, these days, it's not so much 'fun'. It could be over-familiarity with the material, the higher (probably TOO high) standards I set myself, or just getting older .. The best times for me are either working on a new song, or performing live. What about you?

[quote name='jmstone' timestamp='1330991381' post='1566127'] .. For an even more cringeworthy performance: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxX1JhMCFa8[/media] Definitely won't be bouncing up and down again!! LOL! [/quote] It's better than the first one. You look a more into it because it's later in the set probably. Whatever you learn, teach it to the guitarist aswell

[quote name='jmstone' timestamp='1330990736' post='1566111'] Haha! Yes - good point. Thanks for looking! I do really like the band a lot. Not that confident a player I guess.. Even less confident about moving about Practice definitely needed... J Edit - just checked out the videos - I can see what you're getting at there. Need to spend some more time on this I guess... In answer to your earlier question - it's a preemtive decision on my part - which became clear to me after seeing the video of our gig!! [/quote] Good for you mate! Just make sure it's natural. I love to dance to music, so I can't really help moving about on stage. The bigger the stage the more I move. Learn to dance.

Guys, this was in the Kings Head on Acton High Street in West London. It was a free gig. I think they'll be doing more there. And even if you don't really like this sort of music, it's a great opportunity to see this sort of mastery close up and learn lots of useful stuff. And support your fellow musicians.

I was there. It was a lovely night. I like Dave's Jeans Yeah, Darby's great, nice to see him. I also meant to say the hornist was wonderful. superb phrasing and tone, beautiful to listen to. Great band.

Good band. It's like the eighties just blew into my ear. You have the look of relaxation to the point that it looks like you're not enjoying it, or not deep into it at all. It could be a mask for nervousness. Do you enjoy playing in the band? Are you a confident player? Look at this for a complete contrast .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcFvt1sLpis And this for what you should probably look like .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc-lm3Hi6Ko&feature=related And this for what you currently look like .. Just kidding